Dank's final testimony

[Hoffman]

I talk to dank off of these forums.  He's a good guy with good intentions, in my opinion.

He was banned after posting this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877083.0

And he asked that I give this as his appeal:

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[Hoffman]

He also said, "the forum just proved everything I said right."

Nothing more.

[Vod]

I'm sure if he paid Squall back he might have his ban removed.

That's a lot of stuff he could sell if he wasn't so greedy.  Not to mention the motorbike he can't ride. 

[Quickseller]

The modlog says that he was auto banned, and reports in the above thread say that he has said he ban was permanent. I think that picture is very sad and I hope that is not how he is living.

Dank shows signs of bipolar disorder which is a very sad disorder and affects a very close friend of mine. It is something that will sometimes make you think something is a good decision when it is really not (this is especially true when it comes to things regarding money). It will also make you sometimes act in ways that people will often find strange. I don't think that he intended to troll (which is probably what he was banned for), I think he always has had good intentions on here. I think he was trying to follow the rules of the forum, which may be difficult for him to do.

I think it is sad when people on here ridicule him for how he acts and for the claims that he makes. I don't think his intentions were to scam anyone and that he wanted to make people be a good person when he made that thread. If squal were to have made a reasonable settlement offer to settle his debt (something well under 4 figures in US dollars worth of bitcoin) then I would personally pay his debt as he does not deserve to get harassed the way he did about a stupid mistake that he made years ago on here.

If it were up to me (it is not) I would personally reverse the ban, however I would seriously doubt that will happen.

[Vod]

I think that picture is very sad and I hope that is not how he is living.

Don't feel sorry for him.  His parent's would let him move back in if he stopped with the drugs and dropped the god complex.  He brings everything on himself.

When all is said and done, Sean Martin will eternally be known for being a scammer.  Not for the theft itself, but for his unwillingness to repay.  

[Useli Violent]

This is a real shame.

Namaste.

[Quickseller]

I think that picture is very sad and I hope that is not how he is living.

Don't feel sorry for him.  His parent's would let him move back in if he stopped with the drugs.  He brings everything on himself.

When all is said and done, Sean Martin will eternally be known for being a scammer.  Not for the theft itself, but for his unwillingness to repay.  

Drug addiction is something else that he can probably not control. It is not something as simple as to "stop using drugs" drug addiction is in itself a disease.

I think he most likely converted his loan to fiat and then bitcoin eventually went through the roof causing him to have sold the ~50 BTC for ~$800 and then was asked to repay $10,000 as a settlement offer because the price of bitcoin had gone up so much. I don't think those were very fair terms regardless of what he agreed to. I think that if squal were to invest that kind of money in a "bank" loan that had little chance of getting repaid then he would have probably lost that money in some other dubious investment/ponzi. I think that dank would have repaid his loan if he were given an amount to repay that was much closer to the amount he actually borrowed. I think that he probably tried to honor his agreement to repay the loan but was eventually told by someone that it was not fair for him.

Trust me, I am not defending scammers, as I have personally called out a number of scams, including some that no one else has noticed/discovered before I was able to connect the dots (which probably has hurt my business BTW). I think that any true scammer should rot in hell as they are stealing from others who have worked hard for their money.

[Hoffman]

How can someone be automatically permanently banned?

Vod dank has told me he expected to fulfill the obligation with squall early next year.

[Vod]

Vod dank has told me he expected to fulfill the obligation with squall early next year.

dank has a history of lying.  Don't believe anything he tells you. 

If he does pay squall back, then great!  But I won't hold my breath.

[MadZ]

I'm sure if he paid Squall back he might have his ban removed.

That's a lot of stuff he could sell if he wasn't so greedy.  Not to mention the motorbike he can't ride. 

I was under the impression that the forums didn't moderate scamming, I'm not sure why his payment to squall would be factored into his ban.

[Vod]

I'm sure if he paid Squall back he might have his ban removed.

That's a lot of stuff he could sell if he wasn't so greedy.  Not to mention the motorbike he can't ride. 

I was under the impression that the forums didn't moderate scamming, I'm not sure why his payment to squall would be factored into his ban.

I don't think it was.  dank constantly posts nonsense threads.  I think the mods just got sick of it.  According to dank, he was warned twice already.

[MadZ]

I'm sure if he paid Squall back he might have his ban removed.

That's a lot of stuff he could sell if he wasn't so greedy.  Not to mention the motorbike he can't ride. 

I was under the impression that the forums didn't moderate scamming, I'm not sure why his payment to squall would be factored into his ban.

I don't think it was.  dank constantly posts nonsense threads.  I think the mods just got sick of it.  According to dank, he was warned twice already.

I understand that, I was responding to your idea that if he repays squall he might get unbanned. I don't see that happening, since his ban should have been for unrelated reasons.

[Vod]

I'm sure if he paid Squall back he might have his ban removed.

That's a lot of stuff he could sell if he wasn't so greedy.  Not to mention the motorbike he can't ride. 

I was under the impression that the forums didn't moderate scamming, I'm not sure why his payment to squall would be factored into his ban.

I don't think it was.  dank constantly posts nonsense threads.  I think the mods just got sick of it.  According to dank, he was warned twice already.

I understand that, I was responding to your idea that if he repays squall he might get unbanned. I don't see that happening, since his ban should have been for unrelated reasons.

The forum isn't run by logical robots.  I have no idea since I'm not a mod, but I believe if dank came back and repaid his debts and promised to behave, he might be unbanned.  It would be a win win for everyone.  But that's just my ignorant opinion.   

[Lethn]

Dank does tend to spam a lot of incoherent shit, lets not be surprised this happened, to be honest, I think I'm more surprised he didn't get banned sooner given how many newbies and the like get banned for less spam than what he posted.

[John (John K.)]

I remember we had a case with him last time where he showed signs of suicide via posts here. Bruno even called the cops on him just in case (bless him, where's old Bruno now?). That said, I guess him having some time off the forums to get his life straightened out would be a good change too. Maybe a ban removal some time in the future? 

[hilariousandco]

I'm not sure if a break away from this forum is all he needs to get his life back on track. And Phinny has used his main account as collateral for a loan. He is currently posting under the account Gleb Gammow or something.

[John (John K.)]

I'm not sure if a break away from this forum is all he needs to get his life back on track. And Phinny has used his main account as collateral for a loan. He is currently posting under the account Gleb Gammow or something.

Better then keep posting here and doing nothing, I assume . I see, thanks for the heads-up.

[Buffer Overflow]

Maybe the ban was awarded because he was giving out dangerous advice to a potential suicide member on this thread:

And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Wow, I cannot believe you just wrote this. What would happen if the guy is genuinely suicidal and taking medication and decides to take your "advice", and something bad happens because of it?

I think a little break from the forum would do him good. Less of a distraction for him maybe.

[Quickseller]

Maybe the ban was awarded because he was giving out dangerous advice to a potential suicide member on this thread:

And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Wow, I cannot believe you just wrote this. What would happen if the guy is genuinely suicidal and taking medication and decides to take your "advice", and something bad happens because of it?

Probably not, but antidepressants can actually increase the risk of suicide for some people. They also effectively change your personality/the way you think, so some could say that antidepressants (along with mood stabilizers and others) can change who you are as a person.

[hilariousandco]

Agreed. Arguable as to whether it is bad advice. I think actually most if not all anti-depressants carry the side effect warning of potential increased suicidal ideation and they're now known to be pretty much nothing but placebos for depression (not to mention usually having a load of other bad side effects), so this is one 'conspiracy theory' that he's actually probably right on. Still, they can help people but only as much as a placebo can. I'd also advise people not to take them or at least with caution and research various alternative means instead.