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November 30, 2014, 04:15:05 PM
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This is a small heads up for Mods. A sig campaign is getting ready to fill up the Bitcoin Discussion with new threads. Check the rule...

Rule update:
Minimum of 5 new topics (that's only one or two a week) in the bitcoin discussion board (make them interesting and relevant to news and continually reply to the discussion in the thread!)

Imagine what will happen when every member will start doing that and see how the service owner is excited to take over the BitcoinTalk...

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November 30, 2014, 05:03:07 PM
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I have updated this rule. In hindsight it wasn't a necessary rule.

I will be enforcing heavily against spam.
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November 30, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Last edit: November 30, 2014, 05:45:45 PM by BadBear
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65 members, 5 topics each per month. 325 topics per month, 80 per week, 11 per day. This is completely reasonable and not at all spam just to increase their ad visibility.

Meh, whatever. Stuff like this will just garner more support to bring an end to sig campaigns sooner rather than later. It's inevitable really, just a question of when. It's a shame, because they aren't all bad, it's just the ones that don't care about anything other than their profits that will ruin it for everyone. Kind of a shame.

I have updated this rule. In hindsight it wasn't a necessary rule.

I will be enforcing heavily against spam.

Doesn't matter, someone (other sig campaigns)  will, especially now that you've given them the idea. Then everyone else will feel the need to do it in order to keep up.

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November 30, 2014, 05:28:20 PM
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Rules like that are horrible for spam, I wouldn't take part in a sig campaign that forces people to post that much, some are fantastic, like the one I'm in ( Tongue ) so I don't think it would be fair to ban all of them, just the ones that are deliberately trying to encourage spamming. The best thing people can do is instead of getting the mods involved don't even bother going for these campaigns so these marketers learn, they're only doing it because they know some people will go for it.

Flat fees and low post requirements are the way to go, people will post more naturally then rather than feeling pressured to make a post quota, I have seen people actually turn around a few campaign organisers on their original requirements including the one I'm in so it does work to just talk to them.
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November 30, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
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Flat fees and low post requirements are the way to go, people will post more naturally then rather than feeling pressured to make a post quota.

Yh, then you get 10 shill accounts per person posting 50 posts in a few days to claim the payout.

Great option, especially for the advertiser [/sarcasm]
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November 30, 2014, 05:35:43 PM
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Flat fees and low post requirements are the way to go, people will post more naturally then rather than feeling pressured to make a post quota.

Yh, then you get 10 shill accounts per person posting 50 posts in a few days to claim the payout.

Great option, especially for the advertiser [/sarcasm]

That's up to the campaigners to spot, if you're that concerned you'll have your money drained then put in slot limits and manage your funds properly.
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November 30, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
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Flat fees and low post requirements are the way to go, people will post more naturally then rather than feeling pressured to make a post quota.

Yh, then you get 10 shill accounts per person posting 50 posts in a few days to claim the payout.

Great option, especially for the advertiser [/sarcasm]

That's up to the campaigners to spot, if you're that concerned you'll have your money drained then put in slot limits and manage your funds properly.

Posting requirements falls under managing funds..
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November 30, 2014, 05:47:59 PM
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Rules like that are horrible for spam, I wouldn't take part in a sig campaign that forces people to post that much, some are fantastic, like the one I'm in ( Tongue ) so I don't think it would be fair to ban all of them, just the ones that are deliberately trying to encourage spamming. The best thing people can do is instead of getting the mods involved don't even bother going for these campaigns so these marketers learn, they're only doing it because they know some people will go for it.
I agree. The rule in the OP was replaced with a rule saying that participants must post at least 10 posts in the bitcoin discussion and 10 posts in beginners and help sections. I think the majority of posts are in bitcoin discussion (at least the most posts end up there) so this should be expected if someone is making 75-100 posts per month. I don't think there are enough qualified people to be posting in beginners and help (they will probably give out bad information) and even when they do give out good information, there are not enough questions asked in beginners and help to warrant 650 replies per month without answering the same question multiple times. I think this rule is encouraging ad spam in the beginners section and is hoping to get people to sign up for their exchange when they are new to the forum.
Flat fees and low post requirements are the way to go, people will post more naturally then rather than feeling pressured to make a post quota, I have seen people actually turn around a few campaign organisers on their original requirements including the one I'm in so it does work to just talk to them.
I am not sure about this. This is certainly beneficial for the advertisers (eg the users) but it may not be as effective from a cost standpoint, especially when dealing with a large advertising budget. I think campaigns should have a simple no spam rule (and possibly a no negative trust rule) and that is it. Anything else will cause people to post just for posting.

Meh, whatever. Stuff like this will just garner more support to bring an end to sig campaigns sooner rather than later. It's inevitable really, just a question of when. It's a shame, because they aren't all bad, it's just the ones that don't care about anything other than their profits that will ruin it for everyone. Kind of a shame because they aren't all bad.
Sadly this is probably true. Signature campaigns are a great way for users to earn their first bitcoin and does give people incentives to discuss bitcoin and things related to bitcoin in a non-spammy way (in a perfect world). I am not entirely sure what happened that caused the spam to get so much worse in recent months (yes it was signature spam, but signature campaigns have been around a long time before we had such large issues with signature spam at these levels)
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November 30, 2014, 05:56:34 PM
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He's removed any sub-specific posting requirements it seems, so good call.

Flat fees and low post requirements are the way to go, people will post more naturally then rather than feeling pressured to make a post quota.

Yh, then you get 10 shill accounts per person posting 50 posts in a few days to claim the payout.

Great option, especially for the advertiser [/sarcasm]

It's true that fixed rate deals will attract a lot of multi-accounters but it shouldn't matter if they're quality posts. I'd rather have one person handling 20 accounts than 20 shitposters.

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