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[gurbar_nakub]

Hello guys what do i think i was thinking of opening a challange!

Well it can be like an investment but im still thinking,this is just a challenge

It will depends on your action to differentiate if this is an investment or challenge

Basically if you are not putting your stake of 0.1 BTC into this and/or take a cut on the profit after this game reached it milestone than this will be consider as an investment. However if you are putting in your stake and dont take a cut for the profit gained then this is a challenge instead

Basically this "challenge" is not necessary at all. By creating a stake pool and wager with it , it will be the same as wagering by yourself with your own BTC (plus you can use Joca's free tip to help you in this ) because in the end you will need to split the profit gained from the stakepool depending on how big your stake is

For example if the challenge is to get to 10 btc with 0.1 btc and someone wants to join in,he joins with 0.1 btc,then the bankroll would be 0.2 in total,so the challenge would no longer be to get 10 btc,it will be to get 20 btc,so this is only a chance to join in the challenge!im not asking anyone if they want too this is just if they want too

what would you do joca with our 0.1 btc investment then? for betting use your premium picks?
and how long our investment held on you?
i still didnt get the point.

[erpbridge]

Good luck with the Serbia vs Mali game. Last time it didn't go so well. Lets hope they can win this time. I am betting under 2.5 for this game as I feel its going to likely happen.

[arallmuus]

Hello guys what do i think i was thinking of opening a challange!

Well it can be like an investment but im still thinking,this is just a challenge

It will depends on your action to differentiate if this is an investment or challenge

Basically if you are not putting your stake of 0.1 BTC into this and/or take a cut on the profit after this game reached it milestone than this will be consider as an investment. However if you are putting in your stake and dont take a cut for the profit gained then this is a challenge instead

Basically this "challenge" is not necessary at all. By creating a stake pool and wager with it , it will be the same as wagering by yourself with your own BTC (plus you can use Joca's free tip to help you in this ) because in the end you will need to split the profit gained from the stakepool depending on how big your stake is

For example if the challenge is to get to 10 btc with 0.1 btc and someone wants to join in,he joins with 0.1 btc,then the bankroll would be 0.2 in total,so the challenge would no longer be to get 10 btc,it will be to get 20 btc,so this is only a chance to join in the challenge!im not asking anyone if they want too this is just if they want too

Dont confuse my words, Im barely stating that either if it is a "challenge" or an "investment" will be based on these two actions of yours

#1 Will you be taking a cut from all the profit gained from this game?
#2 Will you put in your own BTC for the stakepool of this game as well?

Basically if you dont have anything to lose and just gamble away with everyone's fund than it means this is an investment . But since you kept on using the words " challenge " instead, I assume you will put in your own BTC in the stake pool as well, no?

[Joca97]

Hello guys what do i think i was thinking of opening a challange!

Well it can be like an investment but im still thinking,this is just a challenge

It will depends on your action to differentiate if this is an investment or challenge

Basically if you are not putting your stake of 0.1 BTC into this and/or take a cut on the profit after this game reached it milestone than this will be consider as an investment. However if you are putting in your stake and dont take a cut for the profit gained then this is a challenge instead

Basically this "challenge" is not necessary at all. By creating a stake pool and wager with it , it will be the same as wagering by yourself with your own BTC (plus you can use Joca's free tip to help you in this ) because in the end you will need to split the profit gained from the stakepool depending on how big your stake is

For example if the challenge is to get to 10 btc with 0.1 btc and someone wants to join in,he joins with 0.1 btc,then the bankroll would be 0.2 in total,so the challenge would no longer be to get 10 btc,it will be to get 20 btc,so this is only a chance to join in the challenge!im not asking anyone if they want too this is just if they want too

Dont confuse my words, Im barely stating that either if it is a "challenge" or an "investment" will be based on these two actions of yours

#1 Will you be taking a cut from all the profit gained from this game?
#2 Will you put in your own BTC for the stakepool of this game as well?

Basically if you dont have anything to lose and just gamble away with everyone's fund than it means this is an investment . But since you kept on using the words " challenge " instead, I assume you will put in your own BTC in the stake pool as well, no?

#1 im still thinking about this
#2 deffinetly,the funds are already at 0.1 btc im putting my money 100%...if anyone else wants to join they can

Good luck with the Serbia vs Mali game. Last time it didn't go so well. Lets hope they can win this time. I am betting under 2.5 for this game as I feel its going to likely happen.

Like i said i will hold the funds until the challenge is over,either we win 100x or we lose all

[ticoti]

Will you take some fee for betting with the investments?

[agustina2]

1st match
Serbia U20   -   Mali U20

Serbia U20   wins
odd:2.30

2nd match
Brazil U20 - Senegal U20

Brazil U20
Odd:1.65

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what im afraid of is brazil, in u20 senegal so powerfull. i think i'll split to be a single game. hope the both team win

[arallmuus]

Hello guys what do i think i was thinking of opening a challange!

Well it can be like an investment but im still thinking,this is just a challenge

It will depends on your action to differentiate if this is an investment or challenge

Basically if you are not putting your stake of 0.1 BTC into this and/or take a cut on the profit after this game reached it milestone than this will be consider as an investment. However if you are putting in your stake and dont take a cut for the profit gained then this is a challenge instead

Basically this "challenge" is not necessary at all. By creating a stake pool and wager with it , it will be the same as wagering by yourself with your own BTC (plus you can use Joca's free tip to help you in this ) because in the end you will need to split the profit gained from the stakepool depending on how big your stake is

For example if the challenge is to get to 10 btc with 0.1 btc and someone wants to join in,he joins with 0.1 btc,then the bankroll would be 0.2 in total,so the challenge would no longer be to get 10 btc,it will be to get 20 btc,so this is only a chance to join in the challenge!im not asking anyone if they want too this is just if they want too

Dont confuse my words, Im barely stating that either if it is a "challenge" or an "investment" will be based on these two actions of yours

#1 Will you be taking a cut from all the profit gained from this game?
#2 Will you put in your own BTC for the stakepool of this game as well?

Basically if you dont have anything to lose and just gamble away with everyone's fund than it means this is an investment . But since you kept on using the words " challenge " instead, I assume you will put in your own BTC in the stake pool as well, no?

#1 im still thinking about this
#2 deffinetly,the funds are already at 0.1 btc im putting my money 100%...if anyone else wants to join they can

Basically if you are taking a cut from the profit then this make it as an investment rather than a community challenge ( call it whatever you want ). Also considering that you are trying to multiply the stakepool by 100x then it will probably taking much longer time to get it than expected.

To provide solvency for your game, I will suggest you to put in escrow the amount collected for this stakepool just for an insurance that you wont be "gone" when the game is still in progress (if there are people who join the stakepool , reputation means nothing nowadays as the recent case of Maidak gone shed some light that even a reputable member could gone with your funds)

[Wendigo]

How will he bet with the btc if an escrow is holding the cash? I am more worried what will happen if he loses lol 

[arallmuus]

How will he bet with the btc if an escrow is holding the cash? I am more worried what will happen if he loses lol 

No you are not getting what my point with the escrow is. Im not saying that he needs to put the stakepool collected in an escrow but he needs to put whatever amount collected with his own expenses in an escrow

i.e Stakepool collected will be 1 BTC. Joca will need to provide 1 BTC from his own to an escrow and he will use the 1 BTC collected for betting. This is just precautions that he wont run away with everyone's fund while trying to achieve the 100x fold target.

In regards about him losing then he will not need to provide a refund (the amount in escrow is just an insurance that he wont run away after he get the fund )since everyone will be joining this at their own risk and no matter how great he is there is a chance that he will lose it all

[Joca97]

How will he bet with the btc if an escrow is holding the cash? I am more worried what will happen if he loses lol 

No you are not getting what my point with the escrow is. Im not saying that he needs to put the stakepool collected in an escrow but he needs to put whatever amount collected with his own expenses in an escrow

i.e Stakepool collected will be 1 BTC. Joca will need to provide 1 BTC from his own to an escrow and he will use the 1 BTC collected for betting. This is just precautions that he wont run away with everyone's fund while trying to achieve the 100x fold target.

In regards about him losing then he will not need to provide a refund (the amount in escrow is just an insurance that he wont run away after he get the fund )since everyone will be joining this at their own risk and no matter how great he is there is a chance that he will lose it all

I think my promise dosent mean anything to you,but i dont have a btc to fund an escrow,and its kind of lame escrowing the money with the funds that are invested...this is your personal risk if you want to invest...im pretty reputable here and im also earning money from campaigns and my premium picks,i wouldent risk that for 1 or 2 btc or something small...

[arallmuus]

No you are not getting what my point with the escrow is. Im not saying that he needs to put the stakepool collected in an escrow but he needs to put whatever amount collected with his own expenses in an escrow

i.e Stakepool collected will be 1 BTC. Joca will need to provide 1 BTC from his own to an escrow and he will use the 1 BTC collected for betting. This is just precautions that he wont run away with everyone's fund while trying to achieve the 100x fold target.

In regards about him losing then he will not need to provide a refund (the amount in escrow is just an insurance that he wont run away after he get the fund )since everyone will be joining this at their own risk and no matter how great he is there is a chance that he will lose it all

I think my promise dosent mean anything to you,but i dont have a btc to fund an escrow,and its kind of lame escrowing the money with the funds that are invested [1]...this is your personal risk if you want to invest...im pretty reputable here [2] and im also earning money from campaigns and my premium picks,i wouldent risk that for 1 or 2 btc or something small...[3]

For the first bolded part :

Im not asking you to escrow the funds that are invested but instead Im asking you to escrows funds with the same amount of that will be invested in escrow just as a precautions if you are running away with everyone's funds. Thats a huge difference in there if you read it carefully


For the second bolded part :

To be honest you are not reputable at all and even if you are very reputable here, it will not be a guarantee that you will not run with everyone's funds.

Perhaps you hadnt read about this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077982.0 . Even Maidak a very reputable member pulled out a some shady activity regarding him stalling his payment to shdvb


For the third bolded part :

You are earning approximately 0.1~ BTC for your campaign weekly and I had not seen anyone besides Mitchell who purchased your premium picks recently. Your account alone worth 0.35 at maximum rate.

If you able to collect 1-2 BTC for the stakepool that would be a massive amount comparing to what I listed as your "potential earning" with your account

[erpbridge]

What was the result of the Serbia match ? It was 1-1 by 90 minutes. And 2-1 by end of Extra time.
So does that mean a bet on Serbia would be a win or loss ?
Also for a bet on Under 2.5, so would that only be counted till 90 minutes or till the end of extra time ?

[tatu]

What was the result of the Serbia match ? It was 1-1 by 90 minutes. And 2-1 by end of Extra time.
So does that mean a bet on Serbia would be a win or loss ?
Also for a bet on Under 2.5, so would that only be counted till 90 minutes or till the end of extra time ?

It's normally just the result at full time but it will tell you at the bookies you use. Some may be different but it's usually just the result at 90 minutes plus injury time so the match will be counted as a draw.

[kpitti]

What was the result of the Serbia match ? It was 1-1 by 90 minutes. And 2-1 by end of Extra time.
So does that mean a bet on Serbia would be a win or loss ?
Also for a bet on Under 2.5, so would that only be counted till 90 minutes or till the end of extra time ?

You should see result in your Bet shortly. Usualy only standart time is counted in match result.

[Joca97]

No you are not getting what my point with the escrow is. Im not saying that he needs to put the stakepool collected in an escrow but he needs to put whatever amount collected with his own expenses in an escrow

i.e Stakepool collected will be 1 BTC. Joca will need to provide 1 BTC from his own to an escrow and he will use the 1 BTC collected for betting. This is just precautions that he wont run away with everyone's fund while trying to achieve the 100x fold target.

In regards about him losing then he will not need to provide a refund (the amount in escrow is just an insurance that he wont run away after he get the fund )since everyone will be joining this at their own risk and no matter how great he is there is a chance that he will lose it all

I think my promise dosent mean anything to you,but i dont have a btc to fund an escrow,and its kind of lame escrowing the money with the funds that are invested [1]...this is your personal risk if you want to invest...im pretty reputable here [2] and im also earning money from campaigns and my premium picks,i wouldent risk that for 1 or 2 btc or something small...[3]

For the first bolded part :

Im not asking you to escrow the funds that are invested but instead Im asking you to escrows funds with the same amount of that will be invested in escrow just as a precautions if you are running away with everyone's funds. Thats a huge difference in there if you read it carefully


For the second bolded part :

To be honest you are not reputable at all and even if you are very reputable here, it will not be a guarantee that you will not run with everyone's funds.

Perhaps you hadnt read about this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077982.0 . Even Maidak a very reputable member pulled out a some shady activity regarding him stalling his payment to shdvb


For the third bolded part :

You are earning approximately 0.1~ BTC for your campaign weekly and I had not seen anyone besides Mitchell who purchased your premium picks recently. Your account alone worth 0.35 at maximum rate.

If you able to collect 1-2 BTC for the stakepool that would be a massive amount comparing to what I listed as your "potential earning" with your account

I have proof on my skype that people are buying premium picks,i will need all the funds for gambling on the challenge,so for the investors its their choice if they want to invest,also im thinking of changing the challenge to make it achivable into 10x the amount !

[Joca97]

What was the result of the Serbia match ? It was 1-1 by 90 minutes. And 2-1 by end of Extra time.
So does that mean a bet on Serbia would be a win or loss ?
Also for a bet on Under 2.5, so would that only be counted till 90 minutes or till the end of extra time ?

You should see result in your Bet shortly. Usualy only standart time is counted in match result.

its only standard time that counts just seen my bet as a loss,serbia won in extra time but that dosent count

[erpbridge]

Thanks guys
I had luckily bet on Under 2.5 and wasn't sure if ET is counted in that bet . But seems it wasn't and therefore looks I won that bet. Serbia isn't playing their best games these past few days.

[Joca97]

Thanks guys
I had luckily bet on Under 2.5 and wasn't sure if ET is counted in that bet . But seems it wasn't and therefore looks I won that bet. Serbia isn't playing their best games these past few days.

everytime they played they want into a draw in the end of full time,and when extra time started they always won
stupid bitcoin sportsbooks dont have an option to qualify for the next round

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Any picks tonight captain Joca? Brazil play Colombia in the Copa America, huge game really. I'm going to have a bet on that game later, Brazil to win but I might go for an over or under scorecard, undecided at the moment.
Ther are some Euro U21 Championship group games on later too, should be interesting.

[Joca97]

1st match
Mexico W   -   France W

Over 2.5 goals
odd:1.70

2nd match
England W   -   Colombia W

England W   wins
odd:1.60

3rd match
HJK   -   SJK

HJK wins
odd:1.65

4th match
Brazil   -   Colombia

Both teams score
odd:1.90

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