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June 17, 2012, 04:23:09 PM
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In keeping with the spirit of decentralization we are proud to introduce another tool to help you find local trading partners to facilitate your bitcoin exchanges and improve liquidity.

The benefits are many:

  • Build your local bitcoin trading network
  • Trade for cash
  • Stay away from centralized exchanges
  • Avoid the banking system entirely
  • Maintain your privacy - No ID required!
  • Faster exchanges

What makes TradeYourBitcoin.com different?

  • Simplicity of use
  • Only sellers need create a listing (consisting only of an email address)
  • Buyers just enter their zip code to find local sellers
  • Nothing complicated to configure or calculate
  • Language translation into 65 different languages
  • Negotiate directly with the seller via email and trade in person for cash

Check it out – it's FREE. Start building your local trading network today!

http://TradeYourBitcoin.com

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June 17, 2012, 04:38:08 PM
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Is the English language option missing? The closest seller to me is only 1,600 miles. Cool!

I love your site, BTW.

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June 17, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
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Is the English language option missing?

English is the default language.

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The closest seller to me is only 1,600 miles. Cool!

Yes, therein lies the opportunity for local sellers to list themselves Smiley - it's a brand new site so folks should list themselves if they want to have local buyers pay them in cash for their bitcoin.

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June 17, 2012, 05:26:13 PM
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For me, as a user, what is the difference to http://localbitcoins.com/ ?
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June 17, 2012, 05:31:00 PM
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Nice site.

If you sign up for square, you could have them pay by credit card on your smartphone - though I don't know what their chargeback policies are. Perhaps cash is best.

Like to see the userbase grow of course, but its a good start.

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Hmm, just checked - they say it is %2.75 for swiped cards. So on a transaction of $100, that amounts to an extra $2.75. Not bad... apparently there are no chargeback fees, either. Business opportunity?

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June 17, 2012, 05:38:38 PM
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For me, as a user, what is the difference to http://localbitcoins.com/ ?

Localbitcoins.com is a great site. I recommend that buyers and sellers use all of the sites to improve their liquidity and opportunities for trading. TradeYourBitcoin.com is intended to be more streamlined and simple. Only sellers need create a listing. Buy and sell prices are negotiated directly between parties. Also, TradeYourBitcoin.com allows for 65 different language translations so it has a nice, global reach.
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June 17, 2012, 05:40:46 PM
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Nice site.

If you sign up for square, you could have them pay by credit card on your smartphone - though I don't know what their chargeback policies are. Perhaps cash is best.

Like to see the userbase grow of course, but its a good start.

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Hmm, just checked - they say it is %2.75 for swiped cards. So on a transaction of $100, that amounts to an extra $2.75. Not bad... apparently there are no chargeback fees, either. Business opportunity?

Great idea although the philosophy behind the site is to help people avoid the banking system altogether. Nevertheless, people are welcome to trade via credit cards, PayPal, etc. Cash is still "King" though! Smiley

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June 17, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
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Was checking on the legal part for Square -- and although they don't specifically target bitcoin, the following statements from here may invalidate usage for it:

https://squareup.com/legal/ua

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"By creating a Square Account, you also confirm that you will not accept payments in connection with the following businesses or business activities: < snip > (15) financial institutions offering manual or automated cash disbursements, (16) financial institutions offering merchandise and services, (17) sales of money-orders or foreign currency by non-financial institutions, etc..."

Too bad, eh? Payment processors are real kill-joys.

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June 17, 2012, 05:51:43 PM
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Was checking on the legal part for Square -- and although they don't specifically target bitcoin, the following statements from here may invalidate usage for it:

https://squareup.com/legal/ua

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"By creating a Square Account, you also confirm that you will not accept payments in connection with the following businesses or business activities: < snip > (15) financial institutions offering manual or automated cash disbursements, (16) financial institutions offering merchandise and services, (17) sales of money-orders or foreign currency by non-financial institutions, etc..."

Too bad, eh? Payment processors are real kill-joys.

Yes, that's why bitcoin was invented!   Wink
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June 17, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
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Congrats on the new site Smiley

Why I think that localbitcoins.com is better is because your site lacks price signaling - it is the very basic need for functional market.

Other than that, it might well be that people are not that interested in trading bitcoins with cash, after all. But we will probably see about that in the future.

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Congrats on the new site Smiley

Why I think that localbitcoins.com is better is because your site lacks price signaling - it is the very basic need for functional market.

Other than that, it might well be that people are not that interested in trading bitcoins with cash, after all. But we will probably see about that in the future.

Thanks! The price signals are there - they are just not public. Price is negotiated directly between the parties. Just like the prices for outlawed drugs. They are not posted publicly but price is still communicated throughout the market with every transaction. With that said, general market prices for reference are also available at BitcoinWatch.com and other sites. We'll soon post the current exchange rates from the major exchanges on the site for convenience though.

When banksters and statists step up their attacks on bitcoin by locking users out of the banking system (which they've already started), the demand for local cash transactions will rise. It is not a matter of "if" but only a matter of "when".

That is why it is so important for people to develop their local trading networks now. Don't become dependent on the banking system for your bitcoin trades. When you trade cash for bitcoin - you are trading cash for cash - one is digital and one is physical.

Money in a bank is simply a promissory note from the bank stating they will pay it back to you when you demand it (hence the term "demand deposits"). We all know how good banks and central planners are at keeping their promises! I prefer to have cash in hand over money in the bank. I think many Greeks, Argentines, Zimbabweans and everybody else who's lived through a national bankruptcy or hyperinflation would agree with me.

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June 17, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
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Case in point re: banks (bitcoin mentioned at 22:40):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STfEPWB6MJs&t=20m50s
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June 17, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
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When banksters and statists step up their attacks on bitcoin by locking users out of the banking system (which they've already started), the demand for local cash transactions will rise. It is not a matter of "if" but only a matter of "when".

That is why it is so important for people to develop their local trading networks now. Don't become dependent on the banking system for your bitcoin trades. When you trade cash for bitcoin - you are trading cash for cash - one is digital and one is physical.

Good point, I suspect this will occur as well if the current trends continue. Perhaps staging an .onion based site within the Tor network would be prudent.

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June 17, 2012, 11:56:34 PM
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< snip >
When banksters and statists step up their attacks on bitcoin by locking users out of the banking system (which they've already started), the demand for local cash transactions will rise. It is not a matter of "if" but only a matter of "when".

That is why it is so important for people to develop their local trading networks now. Don't become dependent on the banking system for your bitcoin trades. When you trade cash for bitcoin - you are trading cash for cash - one is digital and one is physical.

Good point, I suspect this will occur as well if the current trends continue. Perhaps staging an .onion based site within the Tor network would be prudent.


Yes, if BB outlaws bitcoin exchanges then exchangers would have to go underground and "in person" exchanges with people you don't know would be vulnerable to "sting" operations. You would have to trade only with people you trust and the same risks would exist as would with any other banned item. All the more reason to develop your trusted trading partners now. Of course no one should break a law because we all know that every law is completely moral and justified - just ask Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc., etc.
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June 18, 2012, 12:05:13 AM
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Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/virtual/tradeyourbitcoin.com/htdocs/index.php on line 161
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June 18, 2012, 12:07:08 AM
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Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/virtual/tradeyourbitcoin.com/htdocs/index.php on line 161

Thanks, we'll check this out.
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June 18, 2012, 01:30:18 AM
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What we need is a decentralized network linking all the decentralized Bitcoin exchanges.

Do not waste your time debating whether Bitcoin can work. It does work.

"Early adopters will profit" is not a sufficient condition to classify something as a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. If it was, Apple and Microsoft stock are Ponzi schemes.

There is no such thing as "market manipulation." There is only buying and selling.
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June 18, 2012, 09:07:26 PM
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Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/virtual/tradeyourbitcoin.com/htdocs/index.php on line 161

Fixed! I'm sending you some coin for the "heads up" - thanks!
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June 18, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
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We've just added the major exchange rates to the page. Working on some other improvements as well Smiley

Check out the latest:
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June 19, 2012, 06:45:39 PM
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FYI: If you tried to list yourself as a seller on the site a couple of days ago you might have had a problem getting listed due to a minor code error. Everything is working fine now so please feel free to list yourself again and expand your trading opportunities!

Remember: "Say 'NO' to banks!"  Smiley
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