no charges for cop who killed man with choke hold

[WEB slicer]

as much as i hate cops i am not one who believes every one is corrupt. they are people and therefore they have both good and bad. but my personal experiences are not good. and i do believe there are more bad than good. the military style training they go through and the power they have changes them. they may be good people to friends and family but when on the job they are two faced tyrants towards civilians. the dude was selling loose cigarettes. fuck you if you think this was justified. people like you are a bigger problem than people like him.

[stevegreer]

as much as i hate cops i am not one who believes every one is corrupt. they are people and therefore they have both good and bad. but my personal experiences are not good. and i do believe there are more bad than good. the military style training they go through and the power they have changes them. they may be good people to friends and family but when on the job they are two faced tyrants towards civilians. the dude was selling loose cigarettes. fuck you if you think this was justified. people like you are a bigger problem than people like him.

Not exactly sure where I mentioned that I thought it was justified. All I said was that it could have easily been prevented had he not been doing something illegal. I refuse to believe that the cop intentionally killed him. And how exactly am I a bigger problem than him? Because I'm a law abiding citizen?
And the obscenities are completely unnecessary.  I haven't cussed at you, so don't do it to me.

[UnunoctiumTesticles]

All I said was that it could have easily been prevented had he not been doing something illegal.

Everyone commits 3 felonies per day. We will be sure to say the same about you when the global police state comes after you as the global economy heads into the abyss 2016 to 2024.


    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[stevegreer]

All I said was that it could have easily been prevented had he not been doing something illegal.

Everyone commits 3 felonies per day. We will be sure to say the same about you when the global police state comes after you as the global economy heads into the abyss 2016 to 2024.


    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Please enlighten me as to what 3 felonies I committed today. Try as I might, I just can't think of any.

[QuestionAuthority]

Why is this shocking? Lord Acton understood this more than 100 years ago. “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority."

The police are given absolute power over life and death while outfitted and instructed in the methods and given the tools of murder. This is news to people? What planet have you all been living on?

[picolo]

this man lost his life for selling loose cigarettes. it is illegal for officers to use a choke hold as a method to restrain citizens

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

US police is brutal and act before arguing and selling cigarettes in the street should be legal anyway.

That being said, the officer were granted immunity for their testimony except the policeman who killed the man, there are 22 civil witnesses and a clear video with sound.
The grand jury had all latitude to know exactly what happened and make a correct decision. So the policeman probably did nothing illegal if they didn't induct him.
The man who died was probably in bad health and the policeman is suppose to act if the guy is resisting arrest which he was, the policeman doesn't seem to use the choke hold for more than a few seconds on the video, does it? I should add that what happened is a tragedy and that I didn't looked into the tragedy in great details.

[UnunoctiumTesticles]

Try as I might, I just can't think of any.

Yup that is the point, you can't know which one of the 4,500 federal crimes (not including 1000s more administrative regulations that are now increasingly punished as crimes by our Kangeroo courts) you committed. The average United States resident commits 3 felonies a day and doesn't even know it. And that includes you, whether you like to admit it to yourself or not.

Any USA citizen that is not already outside of the USA or making plans to get outside before the fucking thing collapses into hell by 2017 or so, is IMHO insane. The police are being trained to be military. Every local police is being armed with military gear and even tank-like vehicles and even hollow point bullets which are illegal in war by Hague convention because they are so gruesome (exit wound is humongous).

And I also hear they are going to cancel all the passports, so getting another citizenship is crucial.

Folks she's fully cooked, stick a fork in the Statue of Liberty. The shit coming is horrific. You got to be crazy to stay inside the USA when this shit hits the fan.

OTOH, it could get quite ugly every where, as the global economy will collapse every where. The plan appears to be to use Russia to squeeze Europe with its military. And China and Japan will fight in order to squeeze Asia. The globalists have their New World Order planned out.

And given the NDAA law, the USA can go after any person any where without any due process and according to Senator Lindsey Graham "shut you up without a lawyer".

[WEB slicer]

most laws are ridiculous and are in place just to condition people to being submissive and follow orders or take your money and possessions. check out this site. http://www.dumblaws.com

one of my favorites is this one. "You may be arrested for vagrancy if you do not have at least one dollar bill on your person".

it's "the law" in illinois and some D-bag cop will arrest you for it if he actually knows about this law.

i'm definitely leaving this country. australia and new zealand looks the best to me.

[hashman]

most laws are ridiculous and are in place just to condition people to being submissive and follow orders or take your money and possessions. check out this site. http://www.dumblaws.com

one of my favorites is this one. "You may be arrested for vagrancy if you do not have at least one dollar bill on your person".

it's "the law" in illinois and some D-bag cop will arrest you for it if he actually knows about this law.

i'm definitely leaving this country. australia and new zealand looks the best to me.

Perhaps you are failing to realize that anybody in those places can also say "you need to have a picture of the queen on you at all times".  In the end, it is us who are idiots for paying attention to that garbage. 

[UnunoctiumTesticles]

i'm definitely leaving this country. australia and new zealand looks the best to me.

They are members of the Five Eyes along with USA, Canada, and the UK.

New Zealand didn't extradite Kim Dot Com, but Australia threw Assange under the bus. However, Australia is starting to shift back towards conservative as they were the first country to stop paying Al Gore's carbon tax fraud (global warming is fraud and not true).

I'd prefer the warmer climates and climates ranges of Australia, and there is more terrain to disappear into.

It looks like those two countries may be two of the best of the developed countries for weathering the coming global crisis.

Canada is closer and more realistic for many Americans to escape to. I suggest that to most. And get working on it now. Canada recently advised their citizens to be wary of the USA police state when traveling there. Canada is socialist in the cities, but Canada is still significantly a rural country and afaik the government doesn't mess with you as much as the USA does (e.g. the Bundy Ranch issue and the Feds fucking with for example ranchers near the Mexican border).

Reside far from any population center, no matter where you go. Try to be in a community that grows its own food. Giving up most carbohydrates is good for your health, so then you don't need grains except perhaps to feed your chickens if you can't hunt and fish for your meat.

[UnunoctiumTesticles]

Perhaps you are failing to realize that anybody in those places can also say "you need to have a picture of the queen on you at all times".  In the end, it is us who are idiots for paying attention to that garbage. 

The country is too far gone. It will fragment. It is more realistic to vote with your feet than stand disunited and get blown to bits by flying debris.

[hdbuck]

lmao: Grand Jury Does not Indict Cop Who Murdered Eric Garner — But the Man Who Filmed It

If the government wants your ass it is theirs. I warned about Coxley who led the March on Washington, DC during the Panic of 1893 about unemployment. The Wizard of Oz was based on that march – we are off to see the wizard. Coxley was arrested for walking in the grass to break up that March. There are way too many laws so anyone can be imprisoned at any time for everyone commits at least 3 crimes per day and do not know about it  - See Three Felonies a Day - How the Feds Target the Innocent

A different Staten Island grand jury indicted Ramsey Orta, the man who filmed the entire incident in August, less than a month after filming the fatal July 17 confrontation in which Daniel Pantaleo and other NYPD police officers murdered Garner in plain view for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes. The prosecutors wanted to imprison the camera man so like Coxley, they find some other law to charge him with in retaliation for filming what the police did. The grand jury was manipulated into indicting Orta on weapons charges stemming from an arrest by undercover officers.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/04/grand-jury-does-not-indict-cop-who-murdered-eric-garners-but-the-man-who-filmed-it/

[picolo]

as much as i hate cops i am not one who believes every one is corrupt. they are people and therefore they have both good and bad. but my personal experiences are not good. and i do believe there are more bad than good. the military style training they go through and the power they have changes them. they may be good people to friends and family but when on the job they are two faced tyrants towards civilians. the dude was selling loose cigarettes. fuck you if you think this was justified. people like you are a bigger problem than people like him.

He didn't intend to kill him, it may have been an accident. The question is : did he do something that he is not suppose to do? Something illegal?
The police is often too armed and violent and they would be more efficient if they didn't have to deal with the war on drugs

[WEB slicer]

i hear this all started cause two guys were fighting outside the shop. the dude was trying to break them up and get them to leave. the cops were called. the guys who were fighting left. the guy who got killed stuck around cause that's his chill spot. cops showed up and he was the only one around so they started bothering him. dude was not involved and says he did nothing. by putting his hands in the air and taking a step back they considered that resisting and jumped on him. cops were called about a fight, had nobody to arrest, nobody to question, so they fucked with this guy. they found no evidence of a crime, no gun, no drugs, so they claim he was selling cigarettes illegally. i have heard nothing about any evidence that suggests this man did anything illegal. i think it's a wrong place wrong time situation.

[UnunoctiumTesticles]

... if they didn't have to deal with the war on drugs

See what I mean? You've got sheeple all over the country who don't understand that the same arseholes who gave us a false war on drugs (while the CIA was deep into drug running) are the same ones militarizing our police via the 9/11 false flag and Homelove Sescrewu Department.

Stick a fork in her, the USA is done. All that remains is the ransacking by the barbarians.

[Spendulus]

...Please enlighten me as to what 3 felonies I committed today. Try as I might, I just can't think of any...

Why, that's the very point.

If you knew, then you'd know as much as the ones who would subject you knew.

It's the three felonies a day that you don't know and can't prevent doing which have merit.

[axxo]

Can't understand why the cop wasn't indicted given the video evidence. The guy was just selling cigarettes without a license and told the officers that he couldn't breathe. He hadn't just robbed a convenience store, wasn't under the influence of anything, didn't display a weapon, and hadn't tried to attack the officers. Minimum should be manslaughter.

[Divinespark]

US cops are out of control with no checks in place. Really disgraceful.
Curious to see what if anything Obama will do next

[yahoo62278]

now all officers will  be wearing cameras in the us. will be interesting to see how they cover for each other now

[BADecker]

Cops are people. You stand a much greater chance of being murdered by cops, or your own government in general, than by terrorists.

Cops are people, armed and trained people. But you can't train a cop to be a human being, while you can train just about anyone to be a good, armed peace officer.

Make it a law that everyone open carry while off his/her own living property. Train all people with general police training. Get rid of the cops. Get rid of the government in so much as they take your freedom to do anything away... except in one area. If you harm someone, or damage his property, then you are liable, up to and including the death penalty. Otherwise, 100% government hands off the people.