risk with neteller

[leen93]

I'm wondering what the risk is with accepting neteller
i just heard it is reversible
but what if i receive 500€ from someone
I go to an atm and take the cash out with my prepaid neteller card and confirm everything is ok to the escrow and release the bitcoins?

[ghibly79]

They can come after you with a credit collector, and ofc close your account.

Ofc you can ignore and refuse to pay but it may result in legal actions (depending on the amount too).

Better to avoid it anyway.

[leen93]

They can come after you with a credit collector, and ofc close your account.

Ofc you can ignore and refuse to pay but it may result in legal actions (depending on the amount too).

Better to avoid it anyway.

but if it comes to legal actions you can proof you sended the bitcoins right and keep the money? no problem at all i guess
or do you just mean the inconvenience of the legal actions
i was just wondering, skrill gives 1% fee so i prefer things like neteller but then i got the reversible problem

[ghibly79]

They have various clauses in their terms and conditions which will favor their side in a case like this: you'll have to pay them and go after the scammer to recover your loss, which ofc is very hard to do.
Most likely scenario. You really should try to avoid that situation for 500$. Or taking the risk hoping they'll drop the collection for that amount.
Or you can try with less ethical (and illegal) methods like throwaway accounts but it's tricky to do because you'll need a physical address to get the card and a lot of fake documents to verify the account/address.

[leen93]

They have various clauses in their terms and conditions which will favor their side in a case like this: you'll have to pay them and go after the scammer to recover your loss, which ofc is very hard to do.
Most likely scenario. You really should try to avoid that situation for 500$. Or taking the risk hoping they'll drop the collection for that amount.
Or you can try with less ethical (and illegal) methods like throwaway accounts but it's tricky to do because you'll need a physical address to get the card and a lot of fake documents to verify the account/address.

I can easily get some fake addresses to send the card too and fake documents would be possible too but that's just against my principle, I would never do something illegal.
But I'm really wondering if what I said would be a problem. I guess the person who got scammed (and lost his money due to his account was hacked or something) has to go after the scammer, not the one who received money from the scammer and just paid him btc, or am I wrong?

[ghibly79]

You are right but payment processors "see it differently", let's say

[noma]

They have various clauses in their terms and conditions which will favor their side in a case like this: you'll have to pay them and go after the scammer to recover your loss, which ofc is very hard to do.
Most likely scenario. You really should try to avoid that situation for 500$. Or taking the risk hoping they'll drop the collection for that amount.
Or you can try with less ethical (and illegal) methods like throwaway accounts but it's tricky to do because you'll need a physical address to get the card and a lot of fake documents to verify the account/address.

I can easily get some fake addresses to send the card too and fake documents would be possible too but that's just against my principle, I would never do something illegal.
But I'm really wondering if what I said would be a problem. I guess the person who got scammed (and lost his money due to his account was hacked or something) has to go after the scammer, not the one who received money from the scammer and just paid him btc, or am I wrong?

Its still going to be hard to get away from it, why not simply accept the payment through another method?
Something that is not reversible.