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January 09, 2015, 04:08:32 AM
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I'm commenting to add my watchlist Grin

I'm interested, looks really good you got there!

We launched yesterday. =) It's great to see all of the spondoolies and bitmain miners arriving. We've been able to deploy fairly quickly, and we hope to provide remote access for our customers pretty soon.

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January 12, 2015, 03:06:27 AM
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We want to see pcitures  Grin More more more!

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January 12, 2015, 06:48:58 AM
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This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!

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January 12, 2015, 07:18:33 AM
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I'll get some more pics up soon! We have miners now!

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January 12, 2015, 07:21:07 AM
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This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!


We're in Washington state, USA!
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January 12, 2015, 08:26:07 AM
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This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!
Power costs are much higher from what I heard in australia  probably why this hasnt happened yet. In Washington state theyre paying somewhere between 0.02 usd and 0.04 usd per KWH in australia the cheapest power ive heard of is at least double the 0.04 usd

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January 12, 2015, 07:55:25 PM
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I'm commenting to add my watchlist Grin

I'm interested, looks really good you got there!

We launched yesterday. =) It's great to see all of the spondoolies and bitmain miners arriving. We've been able to deploy fairly quickly, and we hope to provide remote access for our customers pretty soon.

You launched? That's cool!

Where do we sign up and invest?


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January 12, 2015, 10:23:15 PM
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ASICSPACE,

I would love to build your internal tool for managing these devices Tongue

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January 13, 2015, 04:38:29 AM
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This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!
Power costs are much higher from what I heard in australia  probably why this hasnt happened yet. In Washington state theyre paying somewhere between 0.02 usd and 0.04 usd per KWH in australia the cheapest power ive heard of is at least double the 0.04 usd

We pay .21 per kw down in Aus. That is residential. Not sure if you can get cheaper power on industrial or business contracts/packages.

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January 13, 2015, 04:45:08 AM
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amazing farm

i really want to invest to legit farm like this

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January 13, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
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This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!
Power costs are much higher from what I heard in australia  probably why this hasnt happened yet. In Washington state theyre paying somewhere between 0.02 usd and 0.04 usd per KWH in australia the cheapest power ive heard of is at least double the 0.04 usd

We pay .21 per kw down in Aus. That is residential. Not sure if you can get cheaper power on industrial or business contracts/packages.

Yeahit's crazy the prices in different parts of the world!

That's why places like ASICSPACE are good for the community because 30.5(days in a month)*24(Hours in a day)=A 1Kw machine using 732Kwh/Month
Your power cost $161
Your Power cost @ ASICSPACE as low as $80/Month

Much higher chance of ROI!

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January 14, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
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This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!


We're in Washington state, USA!
Made in 'Murica.

Just out of curiosity when do you think you have covered your investment and expenses at these prices?

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January 14, 2015, 03:35:03 PM
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Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?

One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use.  By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues.  How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model?  Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop).  You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity.  Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
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January 14, 2015, 06:01:36 PM
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Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?

One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use.  By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues.  How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model?  Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop).  You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity.  Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.


#2 - Hot spots.  We actually have a *lot* of control over the power and heat density of our equipment.  We can respond to hot spots not only by adjusting cooling, but also by adjusting miner's physical locations and/or densities, something datacenters cannot do.

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January 14, 2015, 06:56:09 PM
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Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?

One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use.  By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues.  How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model?  Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop).  You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity.  Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.


#2 - Hot spots.  We actually have a *lot* of control over the power and heat density of our equipment.  We can respond to hot spots not only by adjusting cooling, but also by adjusting miner's physical locations and/or densities, something datacenters cannot do.

Based on your pictures it doesn't look like you have the ability to control direct / localized regions they way you describe.  While you might be able to adjust cooling capacity to a particular area, the effect is cumulative.  It really comes down to gross airflow, and what you're describing doesn't directly correlate to the individual miners CFM flow - that add up to be a lot more than you think.  For example 250 S5 units have a CFM cumulative effect of 30k CFM, only pulling about 100kw, calculate that at a megawatt level, 300,000 CFM worth of airflow generated by S5's for 1 MW of power....  If you can create a wind tunnel effect, and have 300k CFM being generated by larger blowers (more efficient than 250 - 90mm fans) you can reduce the amount of power draw and rely on larger units.

It also means customers units stay cooler and work more efficiently.

Just hoping you engineering team considered this on the design for your circulation of the airflow....  Perhaps I'm wrong and you've modeled this more, just going off of what I saw in the pictures.

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January 14, 2015, 07:08:25 PM
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Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?

One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use.  By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues.  How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model?  Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop).  You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity.  Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.


#2 - Hot spots.  We actually have a *lot* of control over the power and heat density of our equipment.  We can respond to hot spots not only by adjusting cooling, but also by adjusting miner's physical locations and/or densities, something datacenters cannot do.

Based on your pictures it doesn't look like you have the ability to control direct / localized regions they way you describe.  While you might be able to adjust cooling capacity to a particular area, the effect is cumulative.  It really comes down to gross airflow, and what you're describing doesn't directly correlate to the individual miners CFM flow - that add up to be a lot more than you think.  For example 250 S5 units have a CFM cumulative effect of 30k CFM, only pulling about 100kw, calculate that at a megawatt level, 300,000 CFM worth of airflow generated by S5's for 1 MW of power....  If you can create a wind tunnel effect, and have 300k CFM being generated by larger blowers (more efficient than 250 - 90mm fans) you can reduce the amount of power draw and rely on larger units.

It also means customers units stay cooler and work more efficiently.

Just hoping you engineering team considered this on the design for your circulation of the airflow....  Perhaps I'm wrong and you've modeled this more, just going off of what I saw in the pictures.



I am not affiliated with ASICSPACE just copying something from an Earlier post it seems to me with he amount of money they would have to invest into this property they would have thought this through. If you go to the second page of this thread there is a lot of information from them on cooling arrangements as well as BTCtalk members suggestions.

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yes I read all of that, that's why I was posting the direct question to them on that.  Its something that we learned very early on doing this in a containment situation, power efficiency is best spent getting larger air handlers to move the air, as opposed to letting the individual units run the 120mm / 90mm fans to circulate air.  Plus if they do, the event I described above occurs, you end up with a massive blow-back that causes your units to cook.

In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.

Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.
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yes I read all of that, that's why I was posting the direct question to them on that.  Its something that we learned very early on doing this in a containment situation, power efficiency is best spent getting larger air handlers to move the air, as opposed to letting the individual units run the 120mm / 90mm fans to circulate air.  Plus if they do, the event I described above occurs, you end up with a massive blow-back that causes your units to cook.

In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.

Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.


I expect Cointerra learned this in spades when they were using the C7 Data Center folks to host their equipment. It appears that classical Data Center management and infrastructure are not optimal for a Bitcoin mining operation. Way overkill in many ways, including costs.
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yes I read all of that, that's why I was posting the direct question to them on that.  Its something that we learned very early on doing this in a containment situation, power efficiency is best spent getting larger air handlers to move the air, as opposed to letting the individual units run the 120mm / 90mm fans to circulate air.  Plus if they do, the event I described above occurs, you end up with a massive blow-back that causes your units to cook.

In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.

Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.


I expect Cointerra learned this in spades when they were using the C7 Data Center folks to host their equipment. It appears that classical Data Center management and infrastructure are not optimal for a Bitcoin mining operation. Way overkill in many ways, including costs.
that is why tier1 and sub tier1 facilities are the way to go for miner hosting. aside from both needing internet access and both being computers, bitcoin hosting is nothing like normal IT hosting.
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January 15, 2015, 01:30:06 AM
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What machines you will use there?

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