timk225 (OP)
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December 12, 2014, 12:55:18 AM |
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NOBODY who has ever bought an ASIC is the least bit interested in the security of the blockchain. And if they were only thinking of the blockchain security as their reason to dump thousands into an ASIC, they are fools. They are all greedy like me, looking to grab as much Bitcoin as they can.
I never cared the least little bit about the security, I only mined for profit. And when it became unprofitable, I got out. With about $5000 in net profit after all hardware and electrical expenses, thanks to my holding 205 Litecoins during the big price spike a year ago and I sold them all off within a couple days at that time.
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cryptocoiner
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December 12, 2014, 12:55:41 PM |
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Everybody stopped mining now. It's a big guy's bisiness now. But i would buy some cheap scrypt asics just in order to play with them. Time to use btc (and doge) just as money. Buy and sell stuff and services for crypto. And fuck the banks and goverments.
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timk225 (OP)
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December 12, 2014, 02:55:17 PM |
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If someone were truly interested in only securing the blockchain, then I should think that an old Pentium 4 machine mining BTC in the closet would be enough. Even though its hash rate is low, it is still an independent source of blockchain confirmations.
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mavericklm
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December 12, 2014, 03:47:58 PM |
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this motha'fucker is dead! dead motherfucker!!!! so dead!!!! collapsing i mean!
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klondike_bar
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December 12, 2014, 10:35:44 PM |
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If someone were truly interested in only securing the blockchain, then I should think that an old Pentium 4 machine mining BTC in the closet would be enough. Even though its hash rate is low, it is still an independent source of blockchain confirmations.
people who say things like "support the blockchain even if you are paying more for power than you generate daily" are dumb, and so is the pentium 4 example. The blockchain will not be even marginally more secure by the addition of a few GH, and its just pissing away money. fact is that bitcoin price is low right now, and its squeezing the budgets of miners and makes machines expensive in terms of what they will mine. The difficulty tapers out with no new growth as seen lately, and a trend is emerging where the difficulty increases are exceptionally low. If we see a few more low jumps then equipment that is profitable now will stay profitable longer. source: been mining for about 15 months, and am past 20TH right now. If i sold all my equipment at fair price, I would have paid for a $1500 electrical install, >$1000 more in PSUs/networking, and made several bitcoins profit. nothing massive, but still very good for a hobby
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xstr8guy
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December 13, 2014, 07:01:40 AM |
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One should mine to support the security of the blockchain. If you are here only for greed please see yourself out.
Right! Because BTC is a charity case.
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timk225 (OP)
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December 13, 2014, 04:32:46 PM |
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I LOL at people (Like YOU, Klondike) who piss away thousands of dollars on now-obsolete ASICs, rewire their house, pay the power bill, make little to no profit, and then say "oh, I just do this for a hobby". If it ain't payin', I ain't playin'. Which is why I got out with a profit, and now live happily without the stress of maintaining miners, restarting computers daily, paying high power bills, praying that the coin I'm mining skyrockets in price (and doesn't), and all that BS.
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December 13, 2014, 08:55:50 PM |
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I LOL at screwballs who admittedly do not mine yet spend their time hanging out on mining forums posting sob stories about why they do not mine. I guess you must just "do it for a hobby" or "to maintain the network"
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sherbyspark
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December 13, 2014, 09:36:38 PM |
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I LOL at screwballs who admittedly do not mine yet spend their time hanging out on mining forums posting sob stories about why they do not mine. I guess you must just "do it for a hobby" or "to maintain the network" he is not posting a story, but saying why its bad to invest as a hobby into ASICs. Maybe if we have something new this year, then that might be a great investment opportunity for making profits with mining.
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spiceminer15
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December 18, 2014, 12:04:39 AM |
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already sold mine, profit margin way too thin. might be a good idea to sell while you can still get some $ for the machines
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sobe-it
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December 18, 2014, 05:04:09 AM |
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Incorrect. As stated above, I am not mining anything now, and I am almost done selling off my GPUs and big power supplies. 2 nice motherboards left.
Selling GPUs? Everyone else mining bitcoins sold theirs 2 year ago. Shhhh! I have 70 USB Block Erupters that he may want to buy. pfffffft i have been trying to buy some of em, but it seems no one wants to even send me a offer.
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xstr8guy
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December 18, 2014, 09:06:34 AM |
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Incorrect. As stated above, I am not mining anything now, and I am almost done selling off my GPUs and big power supplies. 2 nice motherboards left.
Selling GPUs? Everyone else mining bitcoins sold theirs 2 year ago. Shhhh! I have 70 USB Block Erupters that he may want to buy. pfffffft i have been trying to buy some of em, but it seems no one wants to even send me a offer. They're not worth the cost of shipping.
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December 18, 2014, 09:09:30 AM |
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Makes you wonder if there has been a big decrease in miners with the price dropping
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December 18, 2014, 09:10:53 AM |
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One should mine to support the security of the blockchain. If you are here only for greed please see yourself out.
I agree with you in principle but it costs money to mine. The returns on the energy investment individuals are making is not encouraging.
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klondike_bar
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December 18, 2014, 05:49:22 PM |
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One should mine to support the security of the blockchain. If you are here only for greed please see yourself out.
I agree with you in principle but it costs money to mine. The returns on the energy investment individuals are making is not encouraging. people didn't mine gold because they wanted a gold-based economy. they did it because gold had value to whoever found it. right now, a lot of bitcoin miners are mining paycoin at 3-8x the daily income. (down to about 2.5x now). Ive mined more in the last 2 days then I was able to by mining BTC for almost 7 days otherwise. Combined with multiple negative changes in the difficulty recently, I KNOW that my investment in mining hardware is well on the way to a positive return. I put 3x SP31 units online a little over a week ago, and estimated that they would be profitable if: a) bitcoin price stays >$300 and difficulty adjustments average <3.5% for the next year b) bitcoin price gradually increases to >$600 and difficulty adjustments average <5% for the next year c) bitcoin price gradually increases to >$1000 and difficulty adjustments average <7.5% for the next year because of the last drop, the coming expected drop, and the paycoin profits, my return in any of the above scenarios is already about 6% higher.
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TheTribesman
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December 19, 2014, 02:11:00 AM |
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One should mine to support the security of the blockchain. If you are here only for greed please see yourself out.
I agree with you in principle but it costs money to mine. The returns on the energy investment individuals are making is not encouraging. people didn't mine gold because they wanted a gold-based economy. they did it because gold had value to whoever found it. right now, a lot of bitcoin miners are mining paycoin at 3-8x the daily income. (down to about 2.5x now). Ive mined more in the last 2 days then I was able to by mining BTC for almost 7 days otherwise. Combined with multiple negative changes in the difficulty recently, I KNOW that my investment in mining hardware is well on the way to a positive return. I put 3x SP31 units online a little over a week ago, and estimated that they would be profitable if: a) bitcoin price stays >$300 and difficulty adjustments average <3.5% for the next year b) bitcoin price gradually increases to >$600 and difficulty adjustments average <5% for the next year c) bitcoin price gradually increases to >$1000 and difficulty adjustments average <7.5% for the next year because of the last drop, the coming expected drop, and the paycoin profits, my return in any of the above scenarios is already about 6% higher. Glad to hear it. Some miners have had to make tough decisions over the last few months.
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December 20, 2014, 08:46:24 PM |
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Bitcoin is collapsing, difficulty is dropping off due to people getting out while BTC still has some value, and within the next month, you will wish you had never bought an ASIC!
Cool story, bro.
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timk225 (OP)
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December 21, 2014, 02:47:30 AM |
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One should mine to support the security of the blockchain. If you are here only for greed please see yourself out.
I agree with you in principle but it costs money to mine. The returns on the energy investment individuals are making is not encouraging. people didn't mine gold because they wanted a gold-based economy. they did it because gold had value to whoever found it. right now, a lot of bitcoin miners are mining paycoin at 3-8x the daily income. (down to about 2.5x now). Ive mined more in the last 2 days then I was able to by mining BTC for almost 7 days otherwise. Combined with multiple negative changes in the difficulty recently, I KNOW that my investment in mining hardware is well on the way to a positive return. Klondike, Klondike, Klondike... You WANT your investment in mining ASICs to yield positive returns. You do not KNOW jack shit. And the sooner you admit that to yourself, the sooner you will realize the fools' folly of buying ASICs and paying high power bills and HOPING the price goes up. I had a firm grasp on the realities all during the time I was mining. Of course I wanted the price to skyrocket, but I knew it probably wouldn't.
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December 22, 2014, 05:20:06 AM |
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Although there has been a decline in BTC value, the future is not as predictable as you make it seem. I sold 3 BFL units in the last 3 days. Who buys BFL units? People looking to start get into mining. Everyday people read and learn and become captivated. Unfortunately, there are many out there who believed that a BTC should have been worth $1100USD all the time. This is not the case. Its dropped down and its sitting flat line. If it retains its current value, ASIC machine will retain value until new tech comes out.
The more I look into BTC the more I am seeing become useable. More people online now accepting BTC as payment. Hell if my boss decided to pay me 3btc per week for work, I'd take it. It needs to become readily available. Anything as new as BTC will still seem extremely foreign to non tech savvy people.
One day electronic currency will completely replace fiat currency. I'm not talking about tap and go with your mobile phones, I'm talking systems like we see in place here. If you could tap n go with your BTC for a meal during your lunch break, it would be great. As long as it remains a decentralized and can't be 'taxed' and 'regulated' by governments then this is something that will be around for a very long time.
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