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December 09, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
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 I did not tell you about their actions initially, but that others do not fall for their divorce, I'll tell you about it.
I'll start from beginning. It all began with first Arrogant's PM to me where he said about his site http://bitcoingambling.reviews and he will add a review about my website if I'll pay him some BTC. (That like the honest reviewers works in Bitcoin world) Advertise advertise, so i have paid to him. He gave us big rating (I think he do to everyone like this) I've asked to gave us some more rates for some more bitcoins, he agreed and gave us the biggest score. 5 minutes later I see my ratings fall down. Only on our site appears overview as once there Dooglus appear with his opinion and destroys our rates. Here I will explain a little bit how they work: Arrogant offers high scores for some BTC, then comes Dooglus and rates falls down, No one warns you about how the system of rates works. (In my thread Dooglus left a message which asks how such an rates for my site, and if it is not send me some BTC, where he knows everything? I repeat you that 5 minutes there was big rates, and then Dooglus come, this is their first fraud for money. Do you think that's a coincidence? Ok, lets go next).
 We begin to argue with Douglas about his rate about site (me know we are not cheating and we are not going to do it, Dooglus it understands, but still tells us that we are dishonest because at the moment we have no Provably Fair). We are very interested in Provably Fair system so we have started do design our own. Dooglus constantly pours us in mud, until we do it (apparently to hasten us to quickly grab a piece of pie).
 You see my English so I've asked Arrogant to help us with texts on site (for lot of BTC of course). With lot of texts there comes text about Provably Fair system, and being such an experienced person in gambling he could not not to notice our mistake, being Dooglus friend he could not not to notice our mistake because of lots of gambling site made it. I'm sure he knew about our mistake even before we opened it and working on me was to prevent this. But apparently Dooglus asked not to do so because of his next move.
 So, we are adding mistaken Provably Fair system and there immediately comes a deposit from Dooglus. (he saw a mistake, he decided not to warn us about it immediately, but it still could be warned by Arrogant, he decided to use the bug to make 10 BTC from 0.1). After that happens he PM me with screens and ask for BTC for that bug. I realize now that I had to do how most of "honesty" people do to say thank you man, or worse accuse him of cheating and to ban. But but I decide to act according to conscience and gave him as much as he asked. At that time we only had a little over 10 BTC and that 1 BTC was a big blow for us.
And so, for what he received the money? For cheating? Not of course. For bug finding? No, for bug, that could be found by everyone he deserved the maximum 0.2 BTC. He received his money for silence and only for this we gave him the money. And what he do immediately after receiving the money? Certainly tells all about our mistakes. So even at this moment we have the right to cancel our gift but we did not do that. If his purpose would not be selfish, and he sincerely wanted to help, he would not tell anyone about this, and even better warned about our mistake before we did it. But we see how he decided to do.
Going next. He withdrew some BTC although saying that will only play on them (honesty of that man just rolls) but not in this case, look at what's next. About a day ago I have learned about Dooglus has his own gambling site and that he is also our competitor. Then I begin to guess why all this happened and begin to take their measures. Seeing only what remains my site from Dooglus is a chat, I hastened to add chat to my site and then what am I doing.

I wrote a PM to Arrogant where asked him about my ratings on his site. For now my site is Provably Fair has chat, and Dooglus rate is unfair for that moment. Realizing that Arrogant is Dooglus pawn and that Dooglus will not change his ratings (although to be honest it has long had to do so after understood there is no cheating on my site), and only one thing Dooglus could do what else would even he do to stop us is to withdraw his last money from the balance on my site. So I have changed withdraw rules as chat was added (before PMing Arrogant). It takes about 5 minutes after PM to Arrogant and Dooglus withdrew his money. And what do you think this is also a coincidence? They are both  are trying to spoil by all the ways. And after all this we still have to pay a competitor. I do not know where does this world, but it hurts me to watch that on your forum such people are in great authority.
I realized that only yesterday when I started this conversation. Who needs proof and private messages please PM me, I can not do as these dishonest people and advertise the privates. I am sorry for my english..,

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December 09, 2014, 08:01:40 AM
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Dooglus is a reputed member of this forum.

He found a bug in your site, whether he is a competitor or not, he found a bug which could have lost you a few btc. If the same system was there for "Free play" too, then many would have spotted it and if you were unlucky could have cost you losses.

He has helped a lot of sites recently. like SD.
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December 09, 2014, 08:06:43 AM
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Dooglus is a reputed member of this forum.

He found a bug in your site, whether he is a competitor or not, he found a bug which could have lost you a few btc. If the same system was there for "Free play" too, then many would have spotted it and if you were unlucky could have cost you losses.

He has helped a lot of sites recently. like SD.

And there is no use paying for a review unless it is for a very reputed site which will affect the traffic considerable, which I doubt is the case.

He found a bug, took advantage of it and only then told about it.

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December 09, 2014, 08:11:54 AM
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*grabs popcorn...and sits back*
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December 09, 2014, 08:15:40 AM
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Dooglus is a reputed member of this forum.

He found a bug in your site, whether he is a competitor or not, he found a bug which could have lost you a few btc. If the same system was there for "Free play" too, then many would have spotted it and if you were unlucky could have cost you losses.

He has helped a lot of sites recently. like SD.

And there is no use paying for a review unless it is for a very reputed site which will affect the traffic considerable, which I doubt is the case.

He found a bug, took advantage of it and only then told about it.

lol, how then will he find the bug?  lol
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December 09, 2014, 08:26:47 AM
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He found a bug, took advantage of it and only then told about it.

I took advantage of it and DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT WITHDRAW MY WINNINGS.

The fact that you had no idea until yesterday that I ran a site of my own speaks volumes.

People like you are the reason that less ethical hackers don't wait to be paid a bounty but just help themselves to it.

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December 09, 2014, 08:29:08 AM
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Dooglus is a reputed member of this forum.

He found a bug in your site, whether he is a competitor or not, he found a bug which could have lost you a few btc. If the same system was there for "Free play" too, then many would have spotted it and if you were unlucky could have cost you losses.

He has helped a lot of sites recently. like SD.

And there is no use paying for a review unless it is for a very reputed site which will affect the traffic considerable, which I doubt is the case.

He found a bug, took advantage of it and only then told about it.

lol, how then will he find the bug?  lol

he read how Provably Fair System works, he realized that it was already at another site, and if we are not deceived then it will work.

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December 09, 2014, 08:35:46 AM
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He found a bug, took advantage of it and only then told about it.

I took advantage of it and DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT WITHDRAW MY WINNINGS.

The fact that you had no idea until yesterday that I ran a site of my own speaks volumes.

People like you are the reason that less ethical hackers don't wait to be paid a bounty but just help themselves to it.

Do you claim that you did not pursue any selfish goals and you just wanted to help?

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December 09, 2014, 08:59:29 AM
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He found a bug, took advantage of it and only then told about it.

I took advantage of it and DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT WITHDRAW MY WINNINGS.

The fact that you had no idea until yesterday that I ran a site of my own speaks volumes.

People like you are the reason that less ethical hackers don't wait to be paid a bounty but just help themselves to it.

Do you claim that you did not pursue any selfish goals and you just wanted to help?
You could always get a professional penetration evaluation & stress test like a normal site owner.... instead of just making yourself sound like even more of a illiterate site owner of an already scammy looking site. I guarantee dooglus has at least 10x more btc than your whole bankroll. You're an idiot if you don't know what bug bounties are.

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December 09, 2014, 09:35:29 AM
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Do you claim that you did not pursue any selfish goals and you just wanted to help?

I wanted to alert you to the problem before anyone ripped you off.

I've done it for many sites before yours, and will continue to do it after yours.

If I wanted to make you look bad, I had plenty of ammunition. I didn't.

I just wanted you to honour the deal we made.

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December 09, 2014, 09:47:54 AM
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Do you claim that you did not pursue any selfish goals and you just wanted to help?

I wanted to alert you to the problem before anyone ripped you off.

I've done it for many sites before yours, and will continue to do it after yours.

If I wanted to make you look bad, I had plenty of ammunition. I didn't.

I just wanted you to honour the deal we made.

We both know that you know about the problem before you used it. So why did not you alert us about that before using that and to do not making such problems? I remind you that it was you who persuaded us to add Provably Fair system. So you then have hoped that we made this mistake and you will acquire from that.

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We both know that you know about the problem before you used it. So why did not you alert us about that before using that and to do not making such problems?

Because you wouldn't have listened. I've dealt with people like you before.

I remind you that it was you who persuaded us to add Provably Fair system.

Me and many others. Provable fairness is a staple of Bitcoin gambling. If you don't have it, you're not really in the game.

So you then have hoped that we made this mistake and you will acquire from that.

There you go again with your crazy conspiracy theories.

My site has a very clear description of how provable fairness works. All you had to do was copy it but you couldn't even do that right. Then when I was honest and didn't steal from you, you took the opportunity to rip me off by not paying me the promised bounty.

Now you have the cheek to accuse me of trying to trick you?

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December 09, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
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We both know that you know about the problem before you used it. So why did not you alert us about that before using that and to do not making such problems?

Because you wouldn't have listened. I've dealt with people like you before.

I remind you that it was you who persuaded us to add Provably Fair system.

Me and many others. Provable fairness is a staple of Bitcoin gambling. If you don't have it, you're not really in the game.

So you then have hoped that we made this mistake and you will acquire from that.

There you go again with your crazy conspiracy theories.

My site has a very clear description of how provable fairness works. All you had to do was copy it but you couldn't even do that right. Then when I was honest and didn't steal from you, you took the opportunity to rip me off by not paying me the promised bounty.

Now you have the cheek to accuse me of trying to trick you?


We did not steal from nobody, we looked at what it is and have developed our own. Yout bounty you deserve just as long until you began to spoil our reputation by showing that you are no friend and foe.

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December 09, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
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but u do realise u paid for FAKE reputation ?
also thanks for telling me about bitcoingambling.reviews  website, i know now those ratings from there are fake and everything there is rigged since anyone can pay BTC and get their ratings skyhigh
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December 09, 2014, 12:21:28 PM
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Dooglus must have a big amount of bitcoins, why taking advantage of a bug and after that warning you?

if wanted to take advantage he would not have warned
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December 09, 2014, 12:27:17 PM
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but u do realise u paid for FAKE reputation ?
also thanks for telling me about bitcoingambling.reviews  website, i know now those ratings from there are fake and everything there is rigged since anyone can pay BTC and get their ratings skyhigh

I did not know that this was arrogants website.
I know a lot of Bitcoin review sites work this way, they email me all the time asking but I stay away from them.
I have not paid to be on this website yet PRC still has quite a decent rating on it.

I don't know who this information helps but just thought I'd share it.

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December 09, 2014, 01:04:13 PM
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Dooglus must have a big amount of bitcoins, why taking advantage of a bug and after that warning you?

if wanted to take advantage he would not have warned

+1, I support Dooglus, he is a famed member here.
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December 09, 2014, 03:36:48 PM
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BTW thanks for the info and warning about bitcoingambling.reviews. That provably fair stuff also looks "interesting".
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December 09, 2014, 03:52:07 PM
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Tsk tsk.. So sorry for you sir.

Dooglus is a reputed member of the site. Everyone will surely back him up regardless who is right or wrong.
With your trust rating and his trust rating hmmmmm, everyone will surely be on his side.

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