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December 09, 2014, 01:17:08 PM
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Can you please tell me why my trust level is not rising up. I have 12 + reputation  Shocked. But i have 0 trust level  Roll Eyes

Please tell me what is this

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December 09, 2014, 01:23:44 PM
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Trust level displayed for any user depends on whether the accounts who gave feedback are in your trust list.
Most users don't have an individual trust list, so the default trust is used, and it seems that none of the prople who gave you positive feedback are in default trust.
Anyway, your feedback history is pretty nice, good job!

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December 09, 2014, 02:44:17 PM
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Trust level displayed for any user depends on whether the accounts who gave feedback are in your trust list.
Most users don't have an individual trust list, so the default trust is used, and it seems that none of the prople who gave you positive feedback are in default trust.
Anyway, your feedback history is pretty nice, good job!

Onkel Paul

If i add these people in my trust list will my trust level increases ?

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December 09, 2014, 03:42:32 PM
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Looks like it's not rising up, because none of these guys you trade with are on the Default Trust list.  Usually is the case for lower ranked users.  Also, once you're higher member status and been here longer, the trust will show to more users.

You can add these users you've dealt with to your trust list, but it'll only appear + to you and no one else.

Only Moderators can add users to the Default Trust list.

If you'd to like to know the formula, here it is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337207.msg3618130#msg3618130

Code:
scam_reports = total unique users who report scamming
reports = total positive ratings
btc = total BTC from positive ratings
unique_reports = total unique users who posted positive ratings
oldest = timestamp of the oldest positive trust rating
latest_scam = timestamp of the latest scam rating

scam_multiplier = 1
# recent scam = bigger negative score
if(current_time - latest_scam < 7 days)
    scam_multiplier += 1.5

# new member = bigger negative score
if(current_time - oldest < 60 days)
    scam_multiplier += 3

months = months since oldest
total = reports + btc/50    # 50 BTC = 1 report

# long-term con men
if(total > 0 && scam_reports > 4)
    scam_multiplier += (scam_reports / total) * 50

# Approximately limit the number of points each person can contribute each month
subtotal = min(2*unique_reports * months, total)
# Newer users have smaller point limits
limited_total = min(subtotal, 10*months) / 10

score = min((limited_total * months - scam_reports * scam_multiplier), 150)

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December 09, 2014, 04:22:09 PM
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In simple words - only someone else can pick up your "Trust".
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December 09, 2014, 04:34:28 PM
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Looks like it's not rising up, because none of these guys you trade with are on the Default Trust list.  Usually is the case for lower ranked users.  Also, once you're higher member status and been here longer, the trust will show to more users.

You can add these users you've dealt with to your trust list, but it'll only appear + to you and no one else.

Only Moderators can add users to the Default Trust list.

If you'd to like to know the formula, here it is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337207.msg3618130#msg3618130

Code:
scam_reports = total unique users who report scamming
reports = total positive ratings
btc = total BTC from positive ratings
unique_reports = total unique users who posted positive ratings
oldest = timestamp of the oldest positive trust rating
latest_scam = timestamp of the latest scam rating

scam_multiplier = 1
# recent scam = bigger negative score

if(current_time - latest_scam < 7 days)
    scam_multiplier += 1.5

# new member = bigger negative score
if(current_time - oldest < 60 days)
    scam_multiplier += 3

months = months since oldest
total = reports + btc/50    # 50 BTC = 1 report

# long-term con men
if(total > 0 && scam_reports > 4)
    scam_multiplier += (scam_reports / total) * 50

# Approximately limit the number of points each person can contribute each month
subtotal = min(2*unique_reports * months, total)
# Newer users have smaller point limits
limited_total = min(subtotal, 10*months) / 10

score = min((limited_total * months - scam_reports * scam_multiplier), 150)


I added member to my trust level but now my trust is vanished :p

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December 09, 2014, 05:25:34 PM
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One other thing not so obvious to new posters or members is Trust only displays in certain forum sections.

Places like Marketplace or Mining will show +/- trust, but not Bitcoin Discussion or Beginners & Help for instance.

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December 09, 2014, 07:20:39 PM
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well trust isn't like activity, it's not time based(would be too good), you need to gain it, with your good action for a good trust or bad action for a bad trust
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December 10, 2014, 03:06:20 AM
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Your trust level will look different to everyone based on who they have in their own trust network/depth.

Your trust will rise when other trustworthy people add you to their networks
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December 10, 2014, 03:13:19 AM
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Your trust level will look different to everyone based on who they have in their own trust network/depth.

Your trust will rise when other trustworthy people add you to their networks

trust has nothing to do with how many trusted people put you in their trust network, but how many positive trusts you got from other people.


I think in theory is possible for you to be in the trust list and the trust you give have high height, but you still have a 0/0 trust
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December 10, 2014, 07:00:42 AM
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Trust level displayed for any user depends on whether the accounts who gave feedback are in your trust list.
Most users don't have an individual trust list, so the default trust is used, and it seems that none of the prople who gave you positive feedback are in default trust.
Anyway, your feedback history is pretty nice, good job!

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If i add these people in my trust list will my trust level increases ?

If you add those people to your own trust list, then from your point of view, your trust will go up.
But from our point of view, your trust will still be neutral because those people are not in our trust list.

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December 10, 2014, 07:09:00 AM
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Your trust level will look different to everyone based on who they have in their own trust network/depth.

Your trust will rise when other trustworthy people add you to their networks

trust has nothing to do with how many trusted people put you in their trust network, but how many positive trusts you got from other people.


I think in theory is possible for you to be in the trust list and the trust you give have high height, but you still have a 0/0 trust

Exactly. You can be on someone's trust list while not being given any trust feedback, or vice versa.
For example, if you check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full, you will see the user "dilatedPixel" is on theymos' trust list while not having any feedback.

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December 10, 2014, 07:18:17 AM
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Looks like it's not rising up, because none of these guys you trade with are on the Default Trust list.  Usually is the case for lower ranked users.  Also, once you're higher member status and been here longer, the trust will show to more users.

You can add these users you've dealt with to your trust list, but it'll only appear + to you and no one else.

Only Moderators can add users to the Default Trust list.
This is not true. People who are on level one of default trust are able to add people to their trust list and will show up on default trust for anyone who uses the default 2 depth setting for viewing trust. Although there are a few moderators on level 1 of default trust, there are also several people who are not moderators and these people also have the ability to add someone to default trust

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December 10, 2014, 02:01:49 PM
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Looks like it's not rising up, because none of these guys you trade with are on the Default Trust list.  Usually is the case for lower ranked users.  Also, once you're higher member status and been here longer, the trust will show to more users.

You can add these users you've dealt with to your trust list, but it'll only appear + to you and no one else.

Only Moderators can add users to the Default Trust list.
This is not true. People who are on level one of default trust are able to add people to their trust list and will show up on default trust for anyone who uses the default 2 depth setting for viewing trust. Although there are a few moderators on level 1 of default trust, there are also several people who are not moderators and these people also have the ability to add someone to default trust

so I can't give you now + or - Trust? I must have some level? How i can get this level or when i get this level? i'm a bit lost..
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December 10, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
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You can leave trust but whether it shows up in the trusted or untrusted part is down to whether you have been put on the defaulttrust list which you are currently not.

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December 11, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
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Looks like it's not rising up, because none of these guys you trade with are on the Default Trust list.  Usually is the case for lower ranked users.  Also, once you're higher member status and been here longer, the trust will show to more users.

You can add these users you've dealt with to your trust list, but it'll only appear + to you and no one else.

Only Moderators can add users to the Default Trust list.
This is not true. People who are on level one of default trust are able to add people to their trust list and will show up on default trust for anyone who uses the default 2 depth setting for viewing trust. Although there are a few moderators on level 1 of default trust, there are also several people who are not moderators and these people also have the ability to add someone to default trust

I think he meant main DefaultTrust list - level 1. It is Admin moderated. In general, if people in level one add others to their trust list, trust shows in all account till they change the depth.

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December 12, 2014, 12:29:30 PM
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You can leave trust but whether it shows up in the trusted or untrusted part is down to whether you have been put on the defaulttrust list which you are currently not.

How i can be on this defaulttrust list? Only admin/moderator can put mi on this list or it depends on my activity points/rank?
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December 12, 2014, 12:31:34 PM
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You can only get put on there by someone who is already on it. They need to add you to their trust list.

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December 12, 2014, 07:36:40 PM
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i think you just need someone that has positive trust to leave trust on your trust
to go into positive Smiley
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December 12, 2014, 11:41:21 PM
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i think you just need someone that has positive trust to leave trust on your trust
to go into positive Smiley

He will become little trusted here but to show the trust rating, he need to get +ve trust feedback by a person in DefaultTrust list atleast in level 2 as level 2 is default level and many of them don't change it. Smiley

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