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nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 12, 2014, 06:19:58 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/ledger-launches-usb-bitcoin-wallet-bank-grade-security/
secondo voi è migliore di trezor?
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Re: nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 12, 2014, 06:46:33 PM
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molto interessante anche questo..
da seguire..
qualcuno lo ha già ordinato o simili?
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Re: nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 12, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
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Quote from: armory on December 12, 2014, 06:19:58 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/ledger-launches-usb-bitcoin-wallet-bank-grade-security/
secondo voi è migliore di trezor?
Da quanto ho letto qui sul forum , è un dispositivo che protegge le priv. keys :
Quote from: EricKennedy on December 12, 2014, 09:09:53 AM
Yes, it is a device you connect to your computer through your USB port.
The wallet doesn't hold any bitcoin
,
it protects private keys
. As it is a HD wallet, it can derives an infinite amount of address. So there is no limit of what you can do with the Ledger Wallet.
The device is certified
EAL5+
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Re: nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 12, 2014, 08:35:16 PM
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Ma oltre a proteggerle firma pure le transazioni. Da quel che ho capito è l'evoluzione del btchip (infatti è prodotto dalla stessa società che ha solo cambiato marchio)
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Re: nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 12, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
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Quote from: alexrossi on December 12, 2014, 08:35:16 PM
Ma oltre a proteggerle firma pure le transazioni. Da quel che ho capito è l'evoluzione del btchip (infatti è prodotto dalla stessa società che ha solo cambiato marchio)
ma è comodo da usare come trezor o piu compesso?
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Re: nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 13, 2014, 05:55:54 AM
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Quote from: armory on December 12, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: alexrossi on December 12, 2014, 08:35:16 PM
Ma oltre a proteggerle firma pure le transazioni. Da quel che ho capito è l'evoluzione del btchip (infatti è prodotto dalla stessa società che ha solo cambiato marchio)
ma è comodo da usare come trezor o piu compesso?
è ugualmente comodo ma meno sicuro, perché non avendo display non puoi sapere a colpo d'occhio cosa stai firmando.
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Re: nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 15, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
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Io non la trovo molto comoda, è un compromesso per avere una doppia conferma senza il display e senza ricorrere a meccanismi tipo il multisig come fa greenaddess.
In pratica per usarla bisogna portarsi dietro un cartoncino fornito insieme alla chiavetta. In questo cartoncino c'è una tabella di traduzione che ad ogni carattere ne fa corrispondere un altro. Una cosa del tipo:
1 -> c
2 -> 9
3 -> W
4 -> p
a -> 4
b -> N
...
questa tabella è diversa per ogni chiavetta.
Quando la chiavetta riceve una transazione da firmare chiede che venga fornita anche la traslazione di alcuni caratteri dell'indirizzo di destinazione. In questo modo si prova di essere in possesso del cartoncino, un malware non riuscirebbe a superare quest'ostacolo proponendo una transazione fasulla.
In quanto a sicurezza siamo a livelli simili al trezor ma come praticità d'uso assolutamente no.
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Re: nuovo hardwallett ultrasicuro a 34 usd !
December 16, 2014, 05:10:17 AM
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Quote from: axo on December 15, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
In quanto a sicurezza siamo a livelli simili al trezor ma come praticità d'uso assolutamente no.
Purtroppo no, infatti una volta che avremo usato tutti i caratteri presenti sul cartoncino per firmare transazioni, un malware avrebbe benissimo la possibilità di memorizzare le associazioni per poi firmare quello che vuole lui.
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