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[contagion]

As these Russian hackers become more and more proficient and more numerous (their economy is collapsing and is owned by oligarchs so they need a vocation like hacking), how does this impact the integration of Bitcoin with sites that normally promise their users repudiation, e.g. Paypal??

Thus I suspect we will see Paypal integrate with a hardware wallet soon?

A solution could be a custom ASIC hardware key, wherein the private key is not accessible; it would interface with your (optionally deterministic hierarchical) wallet via USB but you would be require to press a physical button to release signatures.

Are you describing a Trezor? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122438.0

A quick glance and that appears to be what I was suggesting.

Such projects can be crowd financed these days with Kickstarter.

[LiteCoinGuy]

I ran Sophos and it detected one item and deleted it. I don't think it was a key logger because I haven't sent any coins in weeks so no password was keyed in recently. It's just very weird that multibit opened up without me clicking it. All I can think is they cracked the pass with some super duper program or there is a flaw in multibit that allows the pass to be bypassed. I've cold storage for my savings, and they're fine, but ~6 btc is a big loss and I really don't understand IT enough to be 100% sure what I'm doing, like Linux or Ubuntu seem kind of daunting. I'm going to get a hardware wallet and I am never leaving more than 0.5 btc in my hot wallet ever again.
This experience has damaged my faith in btc. Not the tech itself, but the actuality of any regular joe ever trusting it. If btc is so easy to steal the banks will never have to worry.

yep, for the average joe we need bulletproof devices. its still a long way to go.

good that you hold your savings in cold storage and only leave pocket change in your hotwallet.

[5ick3uffalo]

I am using Malwarebytes Premium and COMODO Firewall and Antivirus plus try to only use trustable software (official qt wallet) and not try browing shady websites. For unknown software I use Sandbox first. For Passwords ENPASS.

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[alani123]

I ran Sophos and it detected one item and deleted it. I don't think it was a key logger because I haven't sent any coins in weeks so no password was keyed in recently. It's just very weird that multibit opened up without me clicking it. All I can think is they cracked the pass with some super duper program or there is a flaw in multibit that allows the pass to be bypassed. I've cold storage for my savings, and they're fine, but ~6 btc is a big loss and I really don't understand IT enough to be 100% sure what I'm doing, like Linux or Ubuntu seem kind of daunting. I'm going to get a hardware wallet and I am never leaving more than 0.5 btc in my hot wallet ever again.
This experience has damaged my faith in btc. Not the tech itself, but the actuality of any regular joe ever trusting it. If btc is so easy to steal the banks will never have to worry.

yep, for the average joe we need bulletproof devices. its still a long way to go.

good that you hold your savings in cold storage and only leave pocket change in your hotwallet.

By those terms, a big precentage of bitcoin users are average joes and could be robbed easily. I'm pretty sure OP wasn't even close to being a bitcoin average joe since he was using secure passwords and had seperated his hotwallet from his vault. I don't think that many people follow such safety lines. I'm pretty sure that most of those 40% of the total bitcoins sitting in addresses with less than 10 coins in each don't even follow the basic security rules. I find the fact that he lost faith to bitcoin completely rational. Everyone knows bitcoin is secure as a network, the tools to securely store bitcoins are already out there too and there are convinient ways to use them as well. But we get more stuff like weusecoins promotional material rather than actual educational pieces.

Who's gonna educate dem average joes? Besides that I don't think real average joes even know what bitcoin is right now.

[sherbyspark]

It may be the thief got the wallet long back and spent the time till now trying to crack the password.

Its scary how a veteran member gets robbed.

I think he mentioned that he had a long tough password. Its usually impossible that it would be cracked by bruteforcing.

[contagion]

By those terms, a big precentage of bitcoin users are average joes and could be robbed easily...

Who's gonna educate dem average joes? Besides that I don't think real average joes even know what bitcoin is right now.

If the economy-of-scale is sufficient (i.e. 100s of millions of users, not the paltry 1 - 2 million Bitcoin has after 6 years) the necessary hardware will be integrated into the smart phones. Then it will simply work plug-and-play for n00bs.

This is why I (formerly AnonyMint, TheFascistMind, UnunoctiumTesticles, etc) wrote about the adoption rate of Bitcoin slowing and of Monero. Note I clarified why adoption rate slows as large entities aggregate users and capital.

Readers would be wise to click every link above and learn. Sorry this is not boasting. It is fact.

[freedomno1]

Just out curiosity have you checked if your address has been affected by this http://www.coindesk.com/good-samaritan-blockchain-hacker-returned-255-btc-speaks/ ?

There is reference to address list but it may be incomplete https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.0

This was an interesting read though, learned something about Bitcoin that I didn't before
Thanks for sharing and I hope the OP is able to get his bitcoins back also check if it disabled any settings in your virusscanner like a rootkit scanner in malwarebytes as an example.

[leesin]

i dont want this happen to me... does anyone know how to setup a cold wallet very easily?

[contagion]

i dont want this happen to me... does anyone know how to setup a cold wallet very easily?

Create a paper wallet on a computer that is not connected to the internet. After creating the paper wallet, employ a software that wipes the hard drive overwriting deleted file sectors with random data, reformat the hard drive of that computer and reinstall the operating system. Don't plug it into the internet or plug in any devices or USB until after you wipe and reformat.

Then spend your BTC to the public address of that paper wallet.

Store multiple copies in multiple secure, secret locations of that printed paper wallet in fireproof and weather proof storage.

No one can get that private key electronically, so no one can steal those BTC electronically. It is up to your preparations to insure the printed private key(s) can't be stolen physically.

[leonaa]

is there any actual physical wallets out there, that acts like a cold wallet?

[luciann]

6 btc is a fuk ton of money.

i didnt even know people can access the back up copy and just steal the balance.. thank god im on a mac? but still, this same scenario can happen to me as well right.

[caga]

6 btc is a fuk ton of money.

i didnt even know people can access the back up copy and just steal the balance.. thank god im on a mac? but still, this same scenario can happen to me as well right.

It certainly can, however windows are more prone to it.
In this case, we don't know what exactly cause the issue. So if the password was crackd some other way, it could happen on a mac as well.