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May 19, 2011, 07:47:48 PM
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one of the first things i do when i talk to ppl about btc is pt at Gavin and say "Princeton graduate".

Argument from authority. You know George W Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard, right?

I like what Mike has done better, which is to list achievements. It's not what where you went to school, it's what you did with that knowledge afterward.
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May 19, 2011, 07:48:23 PM
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All these name changes will make the 'list of honest traders' completely useless! Sad
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May 19, 2011, 08:53:51 PM
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one of the first things i do when i talk to ppl about btc is pt at Gavin and say "Princeton graduate".

Argument from authority. You know George W Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard, right?

I like what Mike has done better, which is to list achievements. It's not what where you went to school, it's what you did with that knowledge afterward.

understood and agreed.  but when you're trying to convince someone of bitcoins legitimacy how would you respond to "Well, BitterTea does it!" Cheesy
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May 19, 2011, 09:05:42 PM
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BlueMatt - Matt Corallo, core developer
I suppose its up to how you define developer, but I'm not technically one.  I don't have commit access (nor should I, I don't know nearly enough about C++).  I do happen to spend a ton of time on bitcoin, and have one (about to be two) chunks of code in the repo.  But I suppose at the end of the day, "core devloper" in FLOSS can mean a ton of different things.

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May 19, 2011, 09:07:13 PM
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C'mon Satoshi.  Your turn.  :-)

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May 19, 2011, 09:20:03 PM
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First name: Goat
Last name: Pig
Middle name: Raccoon

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May 19, 2011, 09:32:36 PM
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PS. If you want to I'll post a SHA-256 of my real name.

just in case it's not clear, it's likely that someone else could brute-force that

Good point, what if it's just the first 4 characters of the SHA-256?
Sorry, that's not safe either. The problem is a dictionary attack going through all common names and calculating the 4 characters you use. It may hit a few times (since 4 characters is a handful of bits) and they'll have a very short list of candidate names for you.
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May 19, 2011, 10:20:20 PM
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I think it's a good idea. I appreciate the public stands. I'm not doing it myself though.

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May 19, 2011, 10:30:39 PM
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I think I can get used to this real name thing.  Cheesy

I suppose its up to how you define developer, but I'm not technically one.  I don't have commit access (nor should I, I don't know nearly enough about C++).  I do happen to spend a ton of time on bitcoin, and have one (about to be two) chunks of code in the repo.  But I suppose at the end of the day, "core devloper" in FLOSS can mean a ton of different things.

You've explained Bitcoin with superhuman patience to about a bajillion people on IRC (including myself), so firstly hat off to you and secondly you are totally (hard-)core in my book. <3  Smiley

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May 20, 2011, 04:06:49 AM
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quite the coming out party we got here .... hope they don't have a bitcoin round up any time soon, although the more people adding their names the less likely it becomes. Admire your mettle guys, hope you appreciate what you are up against.

(I prefer to remain pseudo-anonymous for now for commercial and private reasons ... people who matter can easily find out and the people that don't can't.)

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May 20, 2011, 05:38:51 AM
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(I prefer to remain pseudo-anonymous for now for commercial and private reasons ... people who matter can easily find out and the people that don't can't.)
Hey, the real name doesn't have to be your own Smiley Look at me being trustworthy and all now! Of course, it's a bit of a fad, but it's akin to banks and law offices building expensively decorated buildings to look 'professional' and 'trustworthy' to their investors.

Maybe we could have some designer redesign the site and forum as well.


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May 20, 2011, 07:28:48 PM
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Admire your mettle guys, hope you appreciate what you are up against.

Ah, we're nerds. You know many nerds there are in the world? If they take us out there's a million more. Cheesy

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May 20, 2011, 08:00:13 PM
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I don't want to reveal my meatspace identity for the probable chance that what I'm doing is illegal in most firstrealm jurisdictions. It doesn't mean that what I'm doing is wrong or bad, but simply banned by those in power.

It's a form of armour, where so often in life we are exposed and naked to the eyes of the state and organisations because of what they know about us. When what I'm doing is the latest target boogieman it's good that my physical identity isn't easily known.

Also no one needs to know my real identity to know whether I'm trustworthy or not, I'm not concerned with looking legit, because the fact is I'm not. But I get shit people want done so that's really all that I think matters.

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May 20, 2011, 08:18:52 PM
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All these real names is a great idea. Unfortunately I don't have a picture of me, but here's a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RJXP1tfSBM - I'm in the background. My real name is Jon Smyf
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May 21, 2011, 08:17:24 AM
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My real name is William Moore.
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May 21, 2011, 09:02:22 AM
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I suggest that the op is a cia/nsa/fbi plant, attempting to uncover the identities of some forum users.

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May 21, 2011, 02:52:36 PM
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Fortunately it's easy for him to show otherwise, provided that he has a well-known public key.

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May 21, 2011, 03:00:12 PM
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If people want to use their real name here, I have no problem with that. I wouldn't do it myself, but as long as I am not going to be forced to reveal myself, then I'm not going to stop those who do want to reveal themselves.
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May 21, 2011, 03:53:43 PM
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If people doubt you're who you say you are, this is what you can do about it:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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I am the real Ian Maxwell with public key fingerprint BFBC8D95. My key is only self-signed, but you can verify it by doing the following:

- - -  Send an email to ian.maxwell@gmail.com with subject line "BFBC8D95" and body text "bitcoin".

- - -  I will respond with a signed message referencing this one.

If you do verify my identity, I ask that you sign my public key afterward.
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May 21, 2011, 04:51:15 PM
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Consumers are vendors in their own smaller markets.

Saying Gavin is Princeton Graduate reinforces the elitist position that only Princeton / MIT / Harvard or Rhodes Scholars can contribute or conceive of a worthy cause.

THERE ARE ENOUGH ELITISTS PROHIBITING PEOPLE FROM HELPING EACH OTHER. Google United Homeless Organization. The lack of documentation of their actions (not names) for each other destroyed them. Andrew Cuomo licked the blood off his lips when he shutdown a decentralized homeless empowerment group that had a 25 year run. All because some whiny armchair generals who never stuck their neck out for anyone had an inflated opinion and an exaggerated sense of self-importance.

You want to 1) placate that self-righteous hyena, crowd of armchair generals and 2) draw them in when we need more solid community growth and cultural resilience?
You want more OMFGWTFONLY21MBTC! threads? More inflation / demurrage lametard whining? Your timing sucks.

My pseudonym (I use the name everywhere, everyone knows my politics and bulldog determination) is a vicious attack on that.

If we give up our pseudonyms we give into the consumer / vendor, master / slave, king / subject, professional / ass-kisser, celebrity / cheerleader mindset.

Mine means paid provocateurs are on Santa's Naughty List - By God I'll rout you traitorous fuckers out wherever I find you.

Proposal: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=11541.msg162881#msg162881
Inception: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/296
Goal: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12536.0
Means: Code, donations, and brutal criticism. I've got a thick skin. 1Gc3xCHAzwvTDnyMW3evBBr5qNRDN3DRpq
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