Cex.io

[oblixster]

If the mining is not going to be even close to profitable, completely impossible to ROI why are so many people defending cex.io? So they make money selling garbage -> you make money tricking beginners into thinking these GH vouchers are worth more than the overprice you already paid. Don't get me wrong, a few of you are clearly making money selling this crap but it's at the expense of beginners that clearly don't understand what they are buying. Way more people will lose (0% chance to ROI) than gain $ from Cex.io cloud mining so why promote this as being legit

Can't say I believe any of the "legit" (<- sometimes debatable labelling) cloud mining companies at the moment will ROI but they will pay back a lot more than cex.io ever will.

You understand this, yet still promote likely ponzis in your sig? Did you forget you were an affiliate for hashie and gawminers? How do you rationalize these actions?

You are the only one who looks at my signature and I don't feel like defending any cloud mining company. They are all a gamble but if you want to gamble why would you bet on something that is guaranteed to lose you the most money? Is there any cloud mining that pays out worse than cex.io?

Not like I go on bitcointalk making a thread about how hashie or gawminer is something to invest in. No one looks at my signature, period. And if I was to invest in cloud mining... I'd pick one of those two so it's not like I'm being dishonest. I'd pick Hashie with 10gh free and 20gh paid (most likely will not ROI but slim chance if difficulty remains unchanged for awhile). Gawminer (1x hashstaker) all depends on whether or not paycoin gains acceptance... a big gamble and not one I'd put much money into. There, now you made me promote them, happy?

They both ended up there a month ago when I was looking at cloud mining for a bit because they had something free to try out. Just like my link to faucet rotator is something free. You are not forced to buy and gives you a chance to try and decide for yourself. Can hardly say that is actively promoting something because I have a link for cloud mining that goes to another website that has two links which most people will NEVER EVER EVER even see unless you hadn't said anything ~3 hits in a month (0 sign ups).

[inBitweTrust]

You are the only one who looks at my signature and I don't feel like defending any cloud mining company. They are all a gamble but if you want to gamble why would you bet on something that is guaranteed to lose you the most money? Is there any cloud mining that pays out worse than cex.io?

Not like I go on bitcointalk making a thread about how hashie or gawminer is something to invest in. No one looks at my signature, period. And if I was to invest in cloud mining... I'd pick one of those two so it's not like I'm being dishonest. I'd pick Hashie with 10gh free and 20gh paid (most likely will not ROI but slim chance if difficulty remains unchanged for awhile). Gawminer (1x hashstaker) all depends on whether or not paycoin gains acceptance... a big gamble and not one I'd put much money into. There, now you made me promote them, happy?

They both ended up there a month ago when I was looking at cloud mining for a bit because they had something free to try out. Just like my link to faucet rotator is something free. You are not forced to buy and gives you a chance to try and decide for yourself. Can hardly say that is actively promoting something because I have a link for cloud mining that goes to another website that has two links which most people will NEVER EVER EVER even see unless you hadn't said anything ~3 hits in a month (0 sign ups).

I understand completely, your integrity can be sold to the highest bidder for practically nothing. There is no price that someone could pay me to advertise a scam. For you it appears that around ~0 is your price. Very interesting.

[oblixster]

You are the only one who looks at my signature and I don't feel like defending any cloud mining company. They are all a gamble but if you want to gamble why would you bet on something that is guaranteed to lose you the most money? Is there any cloud mining that pays out worse than cex.io?

Not like I go on bitcointalk making a thread about how hashie or gawminer is something to invest in. No one looks at my signature, period. And if I was to invest in cloud mining... I'd pick one of those two so it's not like I'm being dishonest. I'd pick Hashie with 10gh free and 20gh paid (most likely will not ROI but slim chance if difficulty remains unchanged for awhile). Gawminer (1x hashstaker) all depends on whether or not paycoin gains acceptance... a big gamble and not one I'd put much money into. There, now you made me promote them, happy?

They both ended up there a month ago when I was looking at cloud mining for a bit because they had something free to try out. Just like my link to faucet rotator is something free. You are not forced to buy and gives you a chance to try and decide for yourself. Can hardly say that is actively promoting something because I have a link for cloud mining that goes to another website that has two links which most people will NEVER EVER EVER even see unless you hadn't said anything ~3 hits in a month (0 sign ups).

I understand completely, your integrity can be sold to the highest bidder for practically nothing. There is no price that someone could pay me to advertise a scam. For you it appears that around ~0 is your price. Very interesting.

Are you nuts? Do you have proof that Hashie and Gawminer are scams? and where do you see me promoting them in some sort of shimmering light that would result in sign ups who spend money?

[inBitweTrust]

Are you nuts? Do you have proof that Hashie and Gawminer are scams? where do you see me promoting them on some sort of scale that would result in even a single sign up!?

There is plenty of evidence available that those companies are partial or full ponzi's. Do a bit of research before selling yourself as a shill for the price at or near 0.

Your ethical standards seem to dictate that because there may be a small chance these companies are legit you will become a shill for the chance to get a few dollars. If I even suspected a company of being a ponzi or scam I wouldn't promote them like you are no matter how much they offered me. I would first try and address those concerns and ask for clarification before advertising.

I understand that I am coming off as an sanctimonious asshole , but don't intend to be unnecessarily mean or directly attack you .... I am just bringing to your attention that you are making a difference and it is negative and does reflect poorly upon you. Even if you get 0 signups you are still giving cover to ponzi's by promoting their name and making it appear that many members on this forum support them.

[oblixster]

You are the only one who looks at my signature and I don't feel like defending any cloud mining company. They are all a gamble but if you want to gamble why would you bet on something that is guaranteed to lose you the most money? Is there any cloud mining that pays out worse than cex.io?

Not like I go on bitcointalk making a thread about how hashie or gawminer is something to invest in. No one looks at my signature, period. And if I was to invest in cloud mining... I'd pick one of those two so it's not like I'm being dishonest. I'd pick Hashie with 10gh free and 20gh paid (most likely will not ROI but slim chance if difficulty remains unchanged for awhile). Gawminer (1x hashstaker) all depends on whether or not paycoin gains acceptance... a big gamble and not one I'd put much money into. There, now you made me promote them, happy?

They both ended up there a month ago when I was looking at cloud mining for a bit because they had something free to try out. Just like my link to faucet rotator is something free. You are not forced to buy and gives you a chance to try and decide for yourself. Can hardly say that is actively promoting something because I have a link for cloud mining that goes to another website that has two links which most people will NEVER EVER EVER even see unless you hadn't said anything ~3 hits in a month (0 sign ups).

I understand completely, your integrity can be sold to the highest bidder for practically nothing. There is no price that someone could pay me to advertise a scam. For you it appears that around ~0 is your price. Very interesting.

Are you nuts? Do you have proof that Hashie and Gawminer are scams? and where do you see me promoting them in some sort of shimmering light that would result in sign ups who spend money?

There is plenty of evidence available that those companies are partial or full ponzi's. Do a bit of research before selling yourself as a shill for the price at or near 0.

Your ethical standards seem to dictate that because there may be a small chance these companies are legit you will become a shill for the chance to get a few dollars. If I even suspected a company of being a ponzi or scam I wouldn't promote them like you are no matter how much they offered me. I would first try and address those concerns and ask for clarification before advertising.

I understand that I am coming off as an sanctimonious asshole , but don't intend to be unnecessarily mean or directly attack you .... I am just bringing to your attention that you are making a difference and it is negative and does reflect poorly upon you. Even if you get 0 signups you are still giving cover to ponzi's by promoting their name and making it appear that many members on this forum support them.

Do full quote please else it's very misleading I'm sure that wasn't your intentions

I'm not actively trying to promote Hashie or Gawminer but I don't believe they are ponzi's. And no one looks at my signature until you made that post, if you provide me with proof enough to think they are ponzi's I will remove them from my website (who nobody visits).

[inBitweTrust]

I'm not actively trying to promote Hashie or Gawminer but I don't believe they are ponzi's. And no one looks at my signature until you made that post, if you provide me with proof enough to think they are ponzi's I will remove them from my website (who nobody visits).

Josh Garza @ Gawminers has been repeatedly caught lying to clients and deleting posts to cover up negative publicity, despite this they have some evidence they are actually partially mining their sold hash rate.

They have -  No public mining address / no user selectable pool, Open ended IPO , and a referral program that doesn't add up all indicating they are partial ponzi's and fractionally reserve mining.

Hashie has No public mining address / no user selectable pool, No endorsement from any asic vendor, No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter, Open ended IPO, Referral programs that don't add up, Anonymous operators,  .... all indicating that it is clearly a ponzi.

It is trivially easy to prove these companies have the hashpower they claim with the blockchain. Why aren't they doing so?

P.S... I quote the relevant spots merely to be concise and for readability, as long as you don't edit your comments people cannot take you out of context and I have no intention in quote mining.

[oblixster]

Josh Garza @ Gawminers has been repeatedly caught lying to clients and deleting posts to cover up negative publicity, despite this they have some evidence they are actually partially mining their sold hash rate.

They have -  No public mining address / no user selectable pool, Open ended IPO , and a referral program that doesn't add up all indicating they are partial ponzi's and fractionally reserve mining.

Hashie has No public mining address / no user selectable pool, No endorsement from any asic vendor, No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter, Open ended IPO, Referral programs that don't add up, Anonymous operators,  .... all indicating that it is clearly a ponzi.

It is trivially easy to prove these companies have the hashpower they claim with the blockchain. Why aren't they doing so?

P.S... I quote the relevant spots merely to be concise and for readability, as long as you don't edit your comments people cannot take you out of context and I have no intention in quote mining.

Would be very easy to prove their own hash power like you said. I don't know what their intentions are but I won't call them ponzi's yet. Partial mining and not showing any hash power is however suspicious enough to remove them both from my website (done). Something shady is clearly going on.

[inBitweTrust]

Would be very easy to prove their own hash power like you said. I don't know what their intentions are but I won't call them ponzi's yet. Partial mining and not showing any hash power is however suspicious enough to remove them both from my website (done). Something shady is clearly going on.

You are a gentleman and scholar and give hope to humanity.  Cheers.

[Furio]

Josh Garza @ Gawminers has been repeatedly caught lying to clients and deleting posts to cover up negative publicity, despite this they have some evidence they are actually partially mining their sold hash rate.

They have -  No public mining address / no user selectable pool, Open ended IPO , and a referral program that doesn't add up all indicating they are partial ponzi's and fractionally reserve mining.

Hashie has No public mining address / no user selectable pool, No endorsement from any asic vendor, No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter, Open ended IPO, Referral programs that don't add up, Anonymous operators,  .... all indicating that it is clearly a ponzi.

It is trivially easy to prove these companies have the hashpower they claim with the blockchain. Why aren't they doing so?

P.S... I quote the relevant spots merely to be concise and for readability, as long as you don't edit your comments people cannot take you out of context and I have no intention in quote mining.

Would be very easy to prove their own hash power like you said. I don't know what their intentions are but I won't call them ponzi's yet. Partial mining and not showing any hash power is however suspicious enough to remove them both from my website (done). Something shady is clearly going on.

Simple, they ssaw the succes of PB, and thought, we can do that better

[dothebeats]

The good thing in buying shares of cloud mining in cex.io is that you can sell those GH/s anytime you want whenever you feel like you profited. However, like the markets of altcoins, the price can either tank or skyrocket depending on the movements in the market. If you want to experience mining and at the same time earn, don't expect too much profit when you use cex.io cloud mining services. The maintenance fees are high these days and the profit in mining is not that much compared to previous years because of the difficulty increase.