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December 24, 2014, 12:41:27 PM
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yea that and the whole christian redemption thing.

he is playing you guys like a deck of cards.

Right? you'd think after Librex these guys would know the score. Fool me once..............
.... Fool me once again....
.... and once more...
.... again ....
.... and again ....
..... Fool me once more ....
..... and again ....
... and I will go to another p&d group  Grin

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December 24, 2014, 01:33:35 PM
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The hero in our story should now be called Bob Deficit Grin



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December 24, 2014, 07:42:11 PM
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Scams don't deliver.

Bitswift does.


Version 2 has arrived.  PLEASE UPDATE NOW!

Most of the new features will unlock 10 minutes after the Ball Drops in Times Square (New Years) EST.

New fee structure goes live Jan 11th / midnight.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8rWObF4xz1YYlpPRzJXZVJJY2M/view?usp=sharing
^ windows

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8rWObF4xz1YWHlSM2ZuQVh1aEU/view?usp=sharing
^ os x

Swift backed by Cloud GB will be enabled shortly after Jan 11th.

New site www.bitswift.io

If you are not already on our slack - you should be - the new information is always updated there first.
https://theblocknet.slack.com/messages/bitswift/


The gist of this thread is Bitswift was created by scammers, if that's true (which I believe is most likely) who the fuck are you?

Not endorsing but just pointing out that XMR was built on a scam coin.

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December 26, 2014, 09:40:55 AM
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Very fun read.  Very sad story about the state of crypto.

I think in 10 years this could be a classic story and turned into a movie. hahaha


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Very fun read.  Very sad story about the state of crypto.

I think in 10 years this could be a classic story and turned into a movie. hahaha



A movie shot primarily in a fat geek's basement is not going to do well.

This piece should be quoted anytime blind followers start spouting garbage to claim how awesome their coin is.



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December 27, 2014, 02:40:05 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857457.msg9944910#msg9944910

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December 27, 2014, 03:03:32 AM
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Once upon a time there was a guy named Bob ...


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The End.




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5hjf4i3DY0

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The OP is impressive, @The Sound and Fury, especially the first half. You should take a deep and deserved bow for that.
I'll even close one eye at the excessive intermezzos and purple proses.
However, you seem to be missing several pertinent points concerning Greek tragedies - pride at the Gods, catharsis, and ultimately (most importantly), the nobility of the redeemed but still tragic hero.

That Bob Surplus is the tragic hero of your tale is clear; that your eyes see favor with several of his lieutenants (of which you appear to be one) is perhaps a reminder of the esteem received by Idomeneus, Nestor and Palamedes during the brutal Trojan War while serving the psychopathic Spartan king Menelaus.

But Bob Surplus, his lieutenants and the foot soldiers - or rather ronins - are not tragic, misunderstood heroes. The lot of you, starry-eyed brothers-in-arms,  are not even mercenaries. You are thieves, sophisticated ones no doubt, but still no different from your street brethren. The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Forgive me for being so blunt, but this entire piece seems to be an elaborate PR spin to absolve Bob Surplus et al over the BitSwift debacle. An excuse to permit Bob Surplus to reappear without being hounded for compensation by his ronins. Snigger. There is no honor among thieves, despite protestations to the contrary and cries of omerta!. And the only Renaissance metaphor that comes to mind here is Machiavellian in nature, in its most corrupted and depraved form.

Speaking of noble ronins, I'm quite sure that none of the ronins of Kamakura shogunate paid a one-time registration fee of 1BTC to be part of a gang of fraudsters. So instead of ronin, may I suggest a more appropriate term - greedy, immoral schmucks.

In my experience, losers tend to have more character than honest winners. Dishonest and unscrupulous winners, on the other hand, have no character at all. In fact, some of them are sociopaths. Based on your descriptions alone, I'd say it's fairly certain Bob Surplus is a sociopath.

I apologize again for being so harsh, but this needed to be said. Before I leave, I have two questions:

(i) Cambodia: I find the entire account to be hilarious. Did no one conduct preliminary groundwork before setting up shop there? Are the whole Surplus and BitSwift crews completely and utterly detached from the real world? And even after the fact, did no one think of hiring headhunters?  Considering the presence of several dozens universities there, I find it impossible to believe the entire country had no programmers for hire. If a salary of $80 is enough to support six family members AND pay for college expenses, I can't imagine salary being an issue

(ii) What role did Lin/BTER have/played on the whole saga? After the NXT robbery a few months ago, I've always had a few nagging questions about him.

In the spirit of the season, I'll leave you with a beautiful rendition of Ave Maria as salve to soothe your open wounds. But fear not, your affection of Bob would've surely caught his eyes, and you will be part of his next caper. After all, as you've pointed out, SSDD. Happy Holidays!
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The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Good to see that somebody knows their shit.

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The OP is impressive, @The Sound and Fury, especially the first half. You should take a deep and deserved bow for that.
I'll even close one eye at the excessive intermezzos and purple proses.
However, you seem to be missing several pertinent points concerning Greek tragedies - pride at the Gods, catharsis, and ultimately (most importantly), the nobility of the redeemed but still tragic hero.

That Bob Surplus is the tragic hero of your tale is clear; that your eyes see favor with several of his lieutenants (of which you appear to be one) is perhaps a reminder of the esteem received by Idomeneus, Nestor and Palamedes during the brutal Trojan War while serving the psychopathic Spartan king Menelaus.

But Bob Surplus, his lieutenants and the foot soldiers - or rather ronins - are not tragic, misunderstood heroes. The lot of you, starry-eyed brothers-in-arms,  are not even mercenaries. You are thieves, sophisticated ones no doubt, but still no different from your street brethren. The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Forgive me for being so blunt, but this entire piece seems to be an elaborate PR spin to absolve Bob Surplus et al over the BitSwift debacle. An excuse to permit Bob Surplus to reappear without being hounded for compensation by his ronins. Snigger. There is no honor among thieves, despite protestations to the contrary and cries of omerta!. And the only Renaissance metaphor that comes to mind here is Machiavellian in nature, in its most corrupted and depraved form.

Speaking of noble ronins, I'm quite sure that none of the ronins of Kamakura shogunate paid a one-time registration fee of 1BTC to be part of a gang of fraudsters. So instead of ronin, may I suggest a more appropriate term - greedy, immoral schmucks.

In my experience, losers tend to have more character than honest winners. Dishonest and unscrupulous winners, on the other hand, have no character at all. In fact, some of them are sociopaths. Based on your descriptions alone, I'd say it's fairly certain Bob Surplus is a sociopath.

I apologize again for being so harsh, but this needed to be said. Before I leave, I have two questions:

(i) Cambodia: I find the entire account to be hilarious. Did no one conduct preliminary groundwork before setting up shop there? Are the whole Surplus and BitSwift crews completely and utterly detached from the real world? And even after the fact, did no one think of hiring headhunters?  Considering the presence of several dozens universities there, I find it impossible to believe the entire country had no programmers for hire. If a salary of $80 is enough to support six family members AND pay for college expenses, I can't imagine salary being an issue

(ii) What role did Lin/BTER have/played on the whole saga? After the NXT robbery a few months ago, I've always had a few nagging questions about him.

In the spirit of the season, I'll leave you with a beautiful rendition of Ave Maria as salve to soothe your open wounds. But fear not, your affection of Bob would've surely caught his eyes, and you will be part of his next caper. After all, as you've pointed out, SSDD. Happy Holidays!

The dev they hired, David was in Cambodia before the project started I saw on Blackcoins reddit. He tried a couple devs and explained that Cambodia did not have good developers. He was skeptical of the project going in. Recently saw him post too that the part in this story about him not getting a wallet on time wasn't true and just FUD(we said there was a changelog). He said he made a lot of changes and I compared the Bitbay UI to the Halo UI and they are completely different.

And from reading chat logs it looks like Bob got 500 Bitcoins back from the ICO that his team put in. If thats true then he just stole 200,000 dollars since he isn't even on the project anymore. I'm guessing his friend Gekko walked away with some too.

If anything your post is correct. And on the threads it was stated that Bob has like 100s of fake accounts so it makes sense there would be people here "praising" his theft. I feel bad for Paul too. No wonder he came by to defend the project. So many people get scammed by Bob and then he tries to lie using fake profiles.

I think Lin is just as guilty because the other chat log said Lin gave Bob phantom Bitcoins. SO I guess somebody would have to write a fairy tale about his theft for anyone to believe it. If I could write like this guy I think I could make Hitler sound like a hero... lmao  Grin
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December 27, 2014, 08:33:39 PM
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The OP is impressive, @The Sound and Fury, especially the first half. You should take a deep and deserved bow for that.
I'll even close one eye at the excessive intermezzos and purple proses.
However, you seem to be missing several pertinent points concerning Greek tragedies - pride at the Gods, catharsis, and ultimately (most importantly), the nobility of the redeemed but still tragic hero.

That Bob Surplus is the tragic hero of your tale is clear; that your eyes see favor with several of his lieutenants (of which you appear to be one) is perhaps a reminder of the esteem received by Idomeneus, Nestor and Palamedes during the brutal Trojan War while serving the psychopathic Spartan king Menelaus.

But Bob Surplus, his lieutenants and the foot soldiers - or rather ronins - are not tragic, misunderstood heroes. The lot of you, starry-eyed brothers-in-arms,  are not even mercenaries. You are thieves, sophisticated ones no doubt, but still no different from your street brethren. The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Forgive me for being so blunt, but this entire piece seems to be an elaborate PR spin to absolve Bob Surplus et al over the BitSwift debacle. An excuse to permit Bob Surplus to reappear without being hounded for compensation by his ronins. Snigger. There is no honor among thieves, despite protestations to the contrary and cries of omerta!. And the only Renaissance metaphor that comes to mind here is Machiavellian in nature, in its most corrupted and depraved form.

Speaking of noble ronins, I'm quite sure that none of the ronins of Kamakura shogunate paid a one-time registration fee of 1BTC to be part of a gang of fraudsters. So instead of ronin, may I suggest a more appropriate term - greedy, immoral schmucks.

In my experience, losers tend to have more character than honest winners. Dishonest and unscrupulous winners, on the other hand, have no character at all. In fact, some of them are sociopaths. Based on your descriptions alone, I'd say it's fairly certain Bob Surplus is a sociopath.

I apologize again for being so harsh, but this needed to be said. Before I leave, I have two questions:

(i) Cambodia: I find the entire account to be hilarious. Did no one conduct preliminary groundwork before setting up shop there? Are the whole Surplus and BitSwift crews completely and utterly detached from the real world? And even after the fact, did no one think of hiring headhunters?  Considering the presence of several dozens universities there, I find it impossible to believe the entire country had no programmers for hire. If a salary of $80 is enough to support six family members AND pay for college expenses, I can't imagine salary being an issue

(ii) What role did Lin/BTER have/played on the whole saga? After the NXT robbery a few months ago, I've always had a few nagging questions about him.

In the spirit of the season, I'll leave you with a beautiful rendition of Ave Maria as salve to soothe your open wounds. But fear not, your affection of Bob would've surely caught his eyes, and you will be part of his next caper. After all, as you've pointed out, SSDD. Happy Holidays!

The dev they hired, David was in Cambodia before the project started I saw on Blackcoins reddit. He tried a couple devs and explained that Cambodia did not have good developers. He was skeptical of the project going in. Recently saw him post too that the part in this story about him not getting a wallet on time wasn't true and just FUD(we said there was a changelog). He said he made a lot of changes and I compared the Bitbay UI to the Halo UI and they are completely different.

And from reading chat logs it looks like Bob got 500 Bitcoins back from the ICO that his team put in. If thats true then he just stole 200,000 dollars since he isn't even on the project anymore. I'm guessing his friend Gekko walked away with some too.

If anything your post is correct. And on the threads it was stated that Bob has like 100s of fake accounts so it makes sense there would be people here "praising" his theft. I feel bad for Paul too. No wonder he came by to defend the project. So many people get scammed by Bob and then he tries to lie using fake profiles.

I think Lin is just as guilty because the other chat log said Lin gave Bob phantom Bitcoins. SO I guess somebody would have to write a fairy tale about his theft for anyone to believe it. If I could write like this guy I think I could make Hitler sound like a hero... lmao  Grin



Ok So let's get this straight, "Captain Obvious" with a post count of one shows up to throw stones at Bob Surplus for fake accounts etc

An this same "Captain Obvious" says alot of utter horseshit about how the Bay wallet was not delayed.  Each wallet was late by more than a week. The first wallet was back doored in the irc chat and Zimbeck knew it. The second one, with smart contracts he released knowing full well about the exploit -  but what the hey, it was a broken wallet also, smart contracts did not work etc. I spent a couple days trying to get them to work. You?

Who knows. You seem to be pulling facts out of your ass. Because you are here with an agenda of excusing Zimbeck and trashing the other 4 thieves.

Zimbeck was in on this scam from the start. And ever since his house of cards fell apart he has been sending schills like you to  try to control the narrative.

And by the way - don't feel so "bad for Paul". He raked serious BTC for months helping Bob lead a pump group. He participated in fraudulent ICO's.  Then turned around and pretended he had no connection to Bob until he too got busted.


But I forgot. You are here to reframe the narrative. Pol Pot could use some of what you are selling.



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December 28, 2014, 03:47:28 AM
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The OP is impressive, @The Sound and Fury, especially the first half. You should take a deep and deserved bow for that.
I'll even close one eye at the excessive intermezzos and purple proses.
However, you seem to be missing several pertinent points concerning Greek tragedies - pride at the Gods, catharsis, and ultimately (most importantly), the nobility of the redeemed but still tragic hero.

That Bob Surplus is the tragic hero of your tale is clear; that your eyes see favor with several of his lieutenants (of which you appear to be one) is perhaps a reminder of the esteem received by Idomeneus, Nestor and Palamedes during the brutal Trojan War while serving the psychopathic Spartan king Menelaus.

But Bob Surplus, his lieutenants and the foot soldiers - or rather ronins - are not tragic, misunderstood heroes. The lot of you, starry-eyed brothers-in-arms,  are not even mercenaries. You are thieves, sophisticated ones no doubt, but still no different from your street brethren. The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Forgive me for being so blunt, but this entire piece seems to be an elaborate PR spin to absolve Bob Surplus et al over the BitSwift debacle. An excuse to permit Bob Surplus to reappear without being hounded for compensation by his ronins. Snigger. There is no honor among thieves, despite protestations to the contrary and cries of omerta!. And the only Renaissance metaphor that comes to mind here is Machiavellian in nature, in its most corrupted and depraved form.

Speaking of noble ronins, I'm quite sure that none of the ronins of Kamakura shogunate paid a one-time registration fee of 1BTC to be part of a gang of fraudsters. So instead of ronin, may I suggest a more appropriate term - greedy, immoral schmucks.

In my experience, losers tend to have more character than honest winners. Dishonest and unscrupulous winners, on the other hand, have no character at all. In fact, some of them are sociopaths. Based on your descriptions alone, I'd say it's fairly certain Bob Surplus is a sociopath.

I apologize again for being so harsh, but this needed to be said. Before I leave, I have two questions:

(i) Cambodia: I find the entire account to be hilarious. Did no one conduct preliminary groundwork before setting up shop there? Are the whole Surplus and BitSwift crews completely and utterly detached from the real world? And even after the fact, did no one think of hiring headhunters?  Considering the presence of several dozens universities there, I find it impossible to believe the entire country had no programmers for hire. If a salary of $80 is enough to support six family members AND pay for college expenses, I can't imagine salary being an issue

(ii) What role did Lin/BTER have/played on the whole saga? After the NXT robbery a few months ago, I've always had a few nagging questions about him.

In the spirit of the season, I'll leave you with a beautiful rendition of Ave Maria as salve to soothe your open wounds. But fear not, your affection of Bob would've surely caught his eyes, and you will be part of his next caper. After all, as you've pointed out, SSDD. Happy Holidays!
glad to see some other people see this the same way as i do.
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The OP is impressive, @The Sound and Fury, especially the first half. You should take a deep and deserved bow for that.
I'll even close one eye at the excessive intermezzos and purple proses.
However, you seem to be missing several pertinent points concerning Greek tragedies - pride at the Gods, catharsis, and ultimately (most importantly), the nobility of the redeemed but still tragic hero.

That Bob Surplus is the tragic hero of your tale is clear; that your eyes see favor with several of his lieutenants (of which you appear to be one) is perhaps a reminder of the esteem received by Idomeneus, Nestor and Palamedes during the brutal Trojan War while serving the psychopathic Spartan king Menelaus.

But Bob Surplus, his lieutenants and the foot soldiers - or rather ronins - are not tragic, misunderstood heroes. The lot of you, starry-eyed brothers-in-arms,  are not even mercenaries. You are thieves, sophisticated ones no doubt, but still no different from your street brethren. The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Forgive me for being so blunt, but this entire piece seems to be an elaborate PR spin to absolve Bob Surplus et al over the BitSwift debacle. An excuse to permit Bob Surplus to reappear without being hounded for compensation by his ronins. Snigger. There is no honor among thieves, despite protestations to the contrary and cries of omerta!. And the only Renaissance metaphor that comes to mind here is Machiavellian in nature, in its most corrupted and depraved form.

Speaking of noble ronins, I'm quite sure that none of the ronins of Kamakura shogunate paid a one-time registration fee of 1BTC to be part of a gang of fraudsters. So instead of ronin, may I suggest a more appropriate term - greedy, immoral schmucks.

In my experience, losers tend to have more character than honest winners. Dishonest and unscrupulous winners, on the other hand, have no character at all. In fact, some of them are sociopaths. Based on your descriptions alone, I'd say it's fairly certain Bob Surplus is a sociopath.

I apologize again for being so harsh, but this needed to be said. Before I leave, I have two questions:

(i) Cambodia: I find the entire account to be hilarious. Did no one conduct preliminary groundwork before setting up shop there? Are the whole Surplus and BitSwift crews completely and utterly detached from the real world? And even after the fact, did no one think of hiring headhunters?  Considering the presence of several dozens universities there, I find it impossible to believe the entire country had no programmers for hire. If a salary of $80 is enough to support six family members AND pay for college expenses, I can't imagine salary being an issue

(ii) What role did Lin/BTER have/played on the whole saga? After the NXT robbery a few months ago, I've always had a few nagging questions about him.

In the spirit of the season, I'll leave you with a beautiful rendition of Ave Maria as salve to soothe your open wounds. But fear not, your affection of Bob would've surely caught his eyes, and you will be part of his next caper. After all, as you've pointed out, SSDD. Happy Holidays!
glad to see some other people see this the same way as i do.

Right, no matter how this story is framed, Bob and the upper ring are all doing really bad things.  The foot soldiers are more or less just guilty of being greedy.  That is an easy trap for somebody to fall into.  But Bob and top level friends know this deep down and purposely make a system designed to trap the foot soilders and then in turn the community; is the managements goal to screw over not only the foot soldiers but the general crypto community.  Bob and top level friends are not just greedy, they are sociopaths only caring about themselves, living in a world where they not only rip people off but laugh and smoke pot and tell penis jokes all the while. It is one big happy game of get rich quick while destroying the finances of others.  

On one side this community has the Satoshi's, the people that want to change the world and have put their work, sweat, and tears into this project.  Then we have businesses that are just looking for a small edge (again being greedy but just a little and it is understandable), we have some people that invest because they are idealist and others that invest for a profit (again a little bit of understandable greed), but most investors are looking to do both.  (It is important to note hear that the businesses and investors greed is not the type of greed that is meant with malice to destroy the lives of others, but more so to protect themselves)

Then there are the Bob and top tier friends that aren't just greedy, they are criminal (not in a legal way but in a social contract way) because they are willing to what amounts to lying on many levels so that they can essentially steal the work from hard working devs, the money from believing investors, all the while not giving a shit about these people calling them "fools, fish, and chumps".  That my friend is the clinical definition of a sociopath; a person only concerned for themselves and not the well-being of others and to that extent are willing to cause harm to others for their own personal gain.  

The author of this story is a pretty nice writer, but needs to take a hard look in the mirror.  

Bob and top level friends need to realize that they aren't smart, what they are is a drain on the system and a general waste to the community.  

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The OP is impressive, @The Sound and Fury, especially the first half. You should take a deep and deserved bow for that.
I'll even close one eye at the excessive intermezzos and purple proses.
However, you seem to be missing several pertinent points concerning Greek tragedies - pride at the Gods, catharsis, and ultimately (most importantly), the nobility of the redeemed but still tragic hero.

That Bob Surplus is the tragic hero of your tale is clear; that your eyes see favor with several of his lieutenants (of which you appear to be one) is perhaps a reminder of the esteem received by Idomeneus, Nestor and Palamedes during the brutal Trojan War while serving the psychopathic Spartan king Menelaus.

But Bob Surplus, his lieutenants and the foot soldiers - or rather ronins - are not tragic, misunderstood heroes. The lot of you, starry-eyed brothers-in-arms,  are not even mercenaries. You are thieves, sophisticated ones no doubt, but still no different from your street brethren. The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Forgive me for being so blunt, but this entire piece seems to be an elaborate PR spin to absolve Bob Surplus et al over the BitSwift debacle. An excuse to permit Bob Surplus to reappear without being hounded for compensation by his ronins. Snigger. There is no honor among thieves, despite protestations to the contrary and cries of omerta!. And the only Renaissance metaphor that comes to mind here is Machiavellian in nature, in its most corrupted and depraved form.

Speaking of noble ronins, I'm quite sure that none of the ronins of Kamakura shogunate paid a one-time registration fee of 1BTC to be part of a gang of fraudsters. So instead of ronin, may I suggest a more appropriate term - greedy, immoral schmucks.

In my experience, losers tend to have more character than honest winners. Dishonest and unscrupulous winners, on the other hand, have no character at all. In fact, some of them are sociopaths. Based on your descriptions alone, I'd say it's fairly certain Bob Surplus is a sociopath.

I apologize again for being so harsh, but this needed to be said. Before I leave, I have two questions:

(i) Cambodia: I find the entire account to be hilarious. Did no one conduct preliminary groundwork before setting up shop there? Are the whole Surplus and BitSwift crews completely and utterly detached from the real world? And even after the fact, did no one think of hiring headhunters?  Considering the presence of several dozens universities there, I find it impossible to believe the entire country had no programmers for hire. If a salary of $80 is enough to support six family members AND pay for college expenses, I can't imagine salary being an issue

(ii) What role did Lin/BTER have/played on the whole saga? After the NXT robbery a few months ago, I've always had a few nagging questions about him.

In the spirit of the season, I'll leave you with a beautiful rendition of Ave Maria as salve to soothe your open wounds. But fear not, your affection of Bob would've surely caught his eyes, and you will be part of his next caper. After all, as you've pointed out, SSDD. Happy Holidays!

The dev they hired, David was in Cambodia before the project started I saw on Blackcoins reddit. He tried a couple devs and explained that Cambodia did not have good developers. He was skeptical of the project going in. Recently saw him post too that the part in this story about him not getting a wallet on time wasn't true and just FUD(we said there was a changelog). He said he made a lot of changes and I compared the Bitbay UI to the Halo UI and they are completely different.

And from reading chat logs it looks like Bob got 500 Bitcoins back from the ICO that his team put in. If thats true then he just stole 200,000 dollars since he isn't even on the project anymore. I'm guessing his friend Gekko walked away with some too.

If anything your post is correct. And on the threads it was stated that Bob has like 100s of fake accounts so it makes sense there would be people here "praising" his theft. I feel bad for Paul too. No wonder he came by to defend the project. So many people get scammed by Bob and then he tries to lie using fake profiles.

I think Lin is just as guilty because the other chat log said Lin gave Bob phantom Bitcoins. SO I guess somebody would have to write a fairy tale about his theft for anyone to believe it. If I could write like this guy I think I could make Hitler sound like a hero... lmao  Grin



Ok So let's get this straight, "Captain Obvious" with a post count of one shows up to throw stones at Bob Surplus for fake accounts etc

An this same "Captain Obvious" says alot of utter horseshit about how the Bay wallet was not delayed.  Each wallet was late by more than a week. The first wallet was back doored in the irc chat and Zimbeck knew it. The second one, with smart contracts he released knowing full well about the exploit -  but what the hey, it was a broken wallet also, smart contracts did not work etc. I spent a couple days trying to get them to work. You?

Who knows. You seem to be pulling facts out of your ass. Because you are here with an agenda of excusing Zimbeck and trashing the other 4 thieves.

Zimbeck was in on this scam from the start. And ever since his house of cards fell apart he has been sending schills like you to  try to control the narrative.

And by the way - don't feel so "bad for Paul". He raked serious BTC for months helping Bob lead a pump group. He participated in fraudulent ICO's.  Then turned around and pretended he had no connection to Bob until he too got busted.


But I forgot. You are here to reframe the narrative. Pol Pot could use some of what you are selling.





What are you smoking? Smart contracts were working in Blackcoin and Bitcoin for a year you moron. David changed the whole new user interface and its a huge difference from Blackcoins. You sound like an unappreciative twat. And of course I have an agenda, to stand up for the guy! In Blackcoin we saw him work his ass off to learn Python, the guy is clearly masochistic or something but he did a great thing that crazy bastard worked a year for free. I don't blame him for getting excited and taking that Bitbay deal. Its made upset reading this horse shit. I've been a big fan of Zimbecks and followed his work all year on reddit. I can see why he tried to distance himself from you guys since he cleary got tricked and scammed like everyone else. He was stupid to take the deal with the chinaman and we all tried to warn and he was clearly lied to. You expect me to believe the Chinese and Bob were honest with him? lmao now thats funny.

And I tried the Bay wallet and contracts worked for me. His response on bitcointalk was that there was a typo when paying a Bitbay address which got fixed. And the "back door" in the wallet was a hole in his ftp server which got hacked and I can only assume it was you guys. I've done web developement before and I know there are a lot of ways to get into a server. An besides it just looked like a bunch of stupid links that nobody in their right mind would click on. And it looks like that was fixed too.

Also, why shouldn't I feel bad for Paul? His response here was that he used his own BTC to save his coin from Bob selling it. Thats fuckin badass dude. I bet you guys did Paul just as wrong. Then Paul sticks his neck out and you guys start attacking him. Is this your job or something to hang out on Bitcointalk lmao... lol I bet you were the one that wrote this fairytale.  Roll Eyes
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December 28, 2014, 07:41:07 AM
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Ahhhh now your true colors come thru. David Fanboy.

Maybe is you didn't have your head so far up his ass (and Paul's apparently) you might be able to see some daylight and actually work with facts. Like -

- Bay wallet was delivered twice with back doors that zimbeck knew about. He even posted that the expoits were coming via his own ftp and 'he did not know how to stop them"  But in your fanboy world everything is the fault of anyone but david. Even when he himself admits the source of the exploits. Nope, it must all  be a part of the giant conspiracy against your Great Leader.

- Smart contracts were broken. Your first post insisted they were working and the wallets were delivered on time. This is wrong little fanboy. The wallets were both way late. The help files were all broken. Smart contracts did not work. The thread was full of people whose transactions were disappearing, and whose attempts at contracting failed.  He dropped the wallet knowing the chat panel was back doored and wide open. There were a half dozen things wrong with that wallet - but not in fanboy world, right?

- Your Paul is god rah rah is just pathetic. Ask all the people who got burned in the pumps he engineered together with bob on lxc, xst etc. You are on here painting him like a saint? He was neck deep in arranging the fake ICO of Swift for over a month.  Wasn't until he and bob fell out that he suddenly switched moral ships. By your logic, murderers should go free if they just adopt their victim's children.  And let's see, what other project was started simultaneously, while your saintly Paul was leading Bob's group?  Ahhhh yes. Block Net. I wonder what has not seen the light of day there -  an active pump leader in Bobs group being a part of the Block Net start up.....?

- That Librex story in the OP is only half true. Left out the part about Paul dumping on his own crew the 1st 24 hrs to build his own stack for battle. Not much difference between him and Bob really. 'cept paul is clearly more skilled at making his shit smell better. With help from guys like you.  Bob screwed his own crew so bad no one is sticking up for him. That's the only difference i see here.

But in your moral world, guys like Paul, and a guy like Zimbeck who knew for months about the fake ICO and lied to you - the BC community - for weeks between Nov 1 and Nov 27 about everything - his knowledge, his real involvement, how much he had been paid etc etc. in more than 20 seperate posts on your own thread -    -   these guys get a pass, while you want to see Lin and Bob and Steve and Gekko nailed to the cross.

Bit of a selective moral universe you got going.
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what a great story, I'll tell it to my grandson before he's go to bed!!


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Great story OP, is there a cult classic flick in the near future Cool

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Ahhhh now your true colors come thru. David Fanboy.

Maybe is you didn't have your head so far up his ass (and Paul's apparently) you might be able to see some daylight and actually work with facts. Like -

- Bay wallet was delivered twice with back doors that zimbeck knew about. He even posted that the expoits were coming via his own ftp and 'he did not know how to stop them"  But in your fanboy world everything is the fault of anyone but david. Even when he himself admits the source of the exploits. Nope, it must all  be a part of the giant conspiracy against your Great Leader.

- Smart contracts were broken. Your first post insisted they were working and the wallets were delivered on time. This is wrong little fanboy. The wallets were both way late. The help files were all broken. Smart contracts did not work. The thread was full of people whose transactions were disappearing, and whose attempts at contracting failed.  He dropped the wallet knowing the chat panel was back doored and wide open. There were a half dozen things wrong with that wallet - but not in fanboy world, right?

- Your Paul is god rah rah is just pathetic. Ask all the people who got burned in the pumps he engineered together with bob on lxc, xst etc. You are on here painting him like a saint? He was neck deep in arranging the fake ICO of Swift for over a month.  Wasn't until he and bob fell out that he suddenly switched moral ships. By your logic, murderers should go free if they just adopt their victim's children.  And let's see, what other project was started simultaneously, while your saintly Paul was leading Bob's group?  Ahhhh yes. Block Net. I wonder what has not seen the light of day there -  an active pump leader in Bobs group being a part of the Block Net start up.....?

- That Librex story in the OP is only half true. Left out the part about Paul dumping on his own crew the 1st 24 hrs to build his own stack for battle. Not much difference between him and Bob really. 'cept paul is clearly more skilled at making his shit smell better. With help from guys like you.  Bob screwed his own crew so bad no one is sticking up for him. That's the only difference i see here.

But in your moral world, guys like Paul, and a guy like Zimbeck who knew for months about the fake ICO and lied to you - the BC community - for weeks between Nov 1 and Nov 27 about everything - his knowledge, his real involvement, how much he had been paid etc etc. in more than 20 seperate posts on your own thread -    -   these guys get a pass, while you want to see Lin and Bob and Steve and Gekko nailed to the cross.

Bit of a selective moral universe you got going.

exaggerate much? by your logic any website that is vulnerable to hacking is "back doored" lol brilliant

And dude David didn't know for shit about the "fake ICO" don't lie. The chat log with Steven showed Steve lying to him saying the project wasn't gonna be a pump. And I read Bobs logs and David didn't know about it until the ICO started(look at the date when Bob started talking numbers). Bob was asking him to take on a bigger role but thats about it. Again, David was an idiot for not knowing who Bob was.

And so here is another thing. Ryan and Bob worked on BitSwift too right? Where are they now? They are like leeches or locusts that sucked coins out of Pauls project. Are they still helping Paul?! Hell no! I see you guys attacking Paul. It looks like you guys just sit on your lazy asses behind a keyboard from 100 fake accounts. You guys are literally ruining crypto. Why don't you try being supportive of a project for a change?

It almost leads me to believe that you don't really care about cryptocurrency. You are absoultely shitting on devs and now I don't know how to code. But from my experience in web knowing how hard that is. I can't even imagine how hard it is to code software. You are such a little prick, I bet you can't even code a website and you have the nerve to complain? Not even god can save your dogshit soul.
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Spare us all the hysteria bud. It's clear you know nothing about the vulnerabilty that was in the wallet. And if you think that wasn't a vulnerability you should probably be having someone else look after your dat files.

As for David not knowing about the fake ICO, he has said himself he knew about the fake BTC at Bter and said nothing. His posts in your thread show him lying for weeks about how much he got, when he got it, and what it was for.

As for your idea that pumpers should have "stayed involved" with SWIFT, get a clue. Pumpers are not long term care givers.That's not how they work. So dry your tears son.

As for coding, you don't know jack shit about my backround, so stop making a silly, whining fool of yourself. And the people who are "ruining crypto" ?

Sad, deluded fools such as yourself who believe blindly in your Great Leader despite overwhelming evidence of fraud and theft.  You make these people possible.



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