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December 28, 2014, 03:31:13 PM
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Spare us all the hysteria bud. It's clear you know nothing about the vulnerabilty that was in the wallet. And if you think that wasn't a vulnerability you should probably be having someone else look after your dat files.

As for David not knowing about the fake ICO, he has said himself he knew about the fake BTC at Bter and said nothing. His posts in your thread show him lying for weeks about how much he got, when he got it, and what it was for.

As for your idea that pumpers should have "stayed involved" with SWIFT, get a clue. Pumpers are not long term care givers.That's not how they work. So dry your tears son.

As for coding, you don't know jack shit about my backround, so stop making a silly, whining fool of yourself. And the people who are "ruining crypto" ?

Sad, deluded fools such as yourself who believe blindly in your Great Leader despite overwhelming evidence of fraud and theft.  You make these people possible.





But the point is, he knew about the fake ICO only while it was funding and not before. And I read the unmoderated thread, he was refusing to discuss details with trolls. But very few people at Blackcoin blame him... there was obviously more at stake than his own reputation. Like literally investors and BTER. What did you expect the guy to stop the project the second after it funded? The results would have been identical. In fact, the community outburst would have probably been worse!  Shocked

I dont see how David was legally obligated to blow the whistle on BTER. And besides, he did come forward about it later.

Also there isnt any laws regulating cryptocurrency

And so you are saying that "pumpers" should not stay in the coin. OK sure. Except there is one fatal flaw in your logic. Bob and Ryan never pumped BitSwift or BitBay. They did an ICO which was taking coins directly from investors. And considering Bob got 500 BTC from his group, he didn't actually "pump" to get that 500 BTC because it wasn't his money to begin with.

So that is just outright theft. Because that 500 BTC should have gone back into the project since it was funded by legitimate investors.

If it was a "pump" then Bob and Ryan would have had to sacrifice their own BTC. But they clearly did not.
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December 28, 2014, 03:35:34 PM
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Hey its pretty east to prove these parasites wrong, just start posting real news like this:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113186/blockchain-20-arms-race-blocknet-declares-first-shots-fired-between-nodes-on-separate-blockchains

http://www.cryptocurrencybuzz.com/news/blockchain-2-0-arms-race-blocknet-declares-first-shots-fired-between-nodes-on-separate-blockchains/

and also you can post download links like this:

https://github.com/atcsecure/blocknet

and this

https://github.com/BitSwift-v2/bitswift

then to prove them more wrong post some download links like this:

http://bitswift.io/downloads/

and this

http://atcsecure.com/blocknet/blocknet-prototype.v001a.rar


Then they just look like fools and complete oblivious simpletons for constantly claiming my projects are scams.


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December 28, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
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Spare us all the hysteria bud. It's clear you know nothing about the vulnerabilty that was in the wallet. And if you think that wasn't a vulnerability you should probably be having someone else look after your dat files.

As for David not knowing about the fake ICO, he has said himself he knew about the fake BTC at Bter and said nothing. His posts in your thread show him lying for weeks about how much he got, when he got it, and what it was for.

As for your idea that pumpers should have "stayed involved" with SWIFT, get a clue. Pumpers are not long term care givers.That's not how they work. So dry your tears son.

As for coding, you don't know jack shit about my backround, so stop making a silly, whining fool of yourself. And the people who are "ruining crypto" ?

Sad, deluded fools such as yourself who believe blindly in your Great Leader despite overwhelming evidence of fraud and theft.  You make these people possible.





But the point is, he knew about the fake ICO only while it was funding and not before. And I read the unmoderated thread, he was refusing to discuss details with trolls. But very few people at Blackcoin blame him... there was obviously more at stake than his own reputation. Like literally investors and BTER. What did you expect the guy to stop the project the second after it funded? The results would have been identical. In fact, the community outburst would have probably been worse!  Shocked

I dont see how David was legally obligated to blow the whistle on BTER. And besides, he did come forward about it later.

Also there isnt any laws regulating cryptocurrency

And so you are saying that "pumpers" should not stay in the coin. OK sure. Except there is one fatal flaw in your logic. Bob and Ryan never pumped BitSwift or BitBay. They did an ICO which was taking coins directly from investors. And considering Bob got 500 BTC from his group, he didn't actually "pump" to get that 500 BTC because it wasn't his money to begin with.

So that is just outright theft. Because that 500 BTC should have gone back into the project since it was funded by legitimate investors.

If it was a "pump" then Bob and Ryan would have had to sacrifice their own BTC. But they clearly did not.

Bob and Paul most definitely did pump Swift. Look at the charts. The real reason it fell was 1) pump stopped 2) lots of promised tech /  no actual tech.  These two factors =  wiley coyote suddenly way out in the air, nothing below.

As far as 500 "stolen" BTC.  This is a phrase david came up with. Bob was hired to pump Bay for the price of 500 btc.   That's why Bob was there. When it came time to pump, David pulled his drama queen act and refused to lock up his 10% of the supply of Bay. Making pump impossible.

So is that really "stolen BTC"?  David knew damn well Bob was getting that 500 BTC. He could have mentioned that anytime during the previous three weeks of lying to you guys in the BC thread. But he did not. Because the pump was part of the plan. That's why Bob was in on the deal, and David knew it.

But if David stopped Bob from doing his job - how is that stolen BTC? it is the exact amount David went along with Bob getting.

it is just that now it suits David to call it "stolen BTC".

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December 28, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
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Once upon a time there was a guy named Bob ...


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December 28, 2014, 04:50:25 PM
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Why would you waste your incredible storytelling talent in an alt shitcoin thread on some stupid anarchist pipe dream forum? Dude, you should be writing novels for Harlequin Enterprises.

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December 28, 2014, 08:05:20 PM
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.....and now, on to the next scam!  Great read

Once these wild west days in crypto are over, after the
Dust settles, there will be a ( small?   Medium? Large ? ) handful
Of household name cryptos.   The search continues..... ( Faulkner coin?)
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December 29, 2014, 03:45:28 PM
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Great story !
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December 29, 2014, 03:51:40 PM
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January 02, 2015, 08:03:58 AM
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WoW ya that was a good read lol I'm sure they'll make a movie or a mini series about it one day like they do of the scammers of wall street... "the hounds of crypto"

 I was tempted many times to join pump groups, but have always chosen to hold onto my "soul" instead Wink
 no I haven't made "stacks" of btc and yes I'm still driving a 700. car and have been scammed too many times to count lol Tongue I still would always laugh at the idea. I'll trade in moving markets unless I know for sure the coins trash, then I'll find something else to trade.

 I always hope the dev's are trying to create something special and it's always a let down to find out they were just a shell to p n'd in the markets. but if the devs are meeting deadlines and seem to be on the up and up... then I'll hold their coins (till I sense otherwise)

 I got burnt (ctz) pretty good a few months into my journey down the yellow crypto road and learnt quickly not to put all my eggs in one basket (as my roomy laughed at me he couldn't know that his precious doge was about to fall from it's perch) So since then I have been pretty good about only holding onto to so much of any one coin... so if I'm wrong about a coin it's never that big of a kick in the arse, it still stings though.

 You all make choices in life, you all have to look at yourselves in the mirror and no matter how much money you guy's made/have from your scams I would not want to have that reflection looking back at me.


 Anywho Thanks for sharing the story




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January 02, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
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This is a really great read. Thanks OP for sharing. I wonder if this is the end to the tale.
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January 04, 2015, 12:59:12 PM
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A must read for 2015 fellow newbies.
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January 04, 2015, 04:45:17 PM
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This is a really great read. Thanks OP for sharing. I wonder if this is the end to the tale.

LOL

No.

The Ronin are still on this site doing what they do.

Just change your online persona and repeat to infinity or until it is regulated and made illegal.

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January 04, 2015, 05:00:27 PM
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fuck a bobsurplus  Grin

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January 04, 2015, 08:23:38 PM
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fuck a bobsurplus  Grin

Yeah fuck a me!
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January 05, 2015, 03:42:36 AM
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LOL. Fuck a all the people and things!

Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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January 05, 2015, 10:25:34 AM
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Too long, just read partial.

I have questions:

1. Does bitswift made by Bob's team? Or he just pumped and dumped?

2. How many BTC does he earn? over 1K BTC?
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Too long, just read partial.


Read it all, it is worth the time

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January 06, 2015, 12:41:00 AM
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excellent read Smiley thx man!

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January 06, 2015, 11:20:43 PM
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I love this story, but it is the conclusion that keeps me coming back.  Am I the only one that will never trade on bter again?   It appears so some days.

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We would like a sharper moral clarity to come out of this sad mess. We would like it if – at the end of this story  – the world would appear a little different than when we started this tale.  But it doesn’t, does it?

In this story we have seen both Swift and BitBay  get created out of thin air. We have watched both ICO’s get staged by Bob Surplus. Devs who have collaborated knowingly and willingly in his rigged ICO’s and reaped handsome rewards are still comfortably in their jobs, supported by their communities.

During this time, the market price of BitSwift is relatively unchanged. The same is true of BitBay.  So the altcoin market around us has spoken. It has shrugged. It is morally unimpressed.


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