247crypto (OP)
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December 21, 2014, 11:54:07 PM |
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Agestorzrxx
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December 22, 2014, 12:53:57 AM |
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Never head this guy.
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December 22, 2014, 02:18:52 AM |
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Never head this guy.
"President" of Belarus since 1994. 247crypto should move to that amazing country.
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Agestorzrxx
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December 22, 2014, 04:32:52 AM |
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Never head this guy.
"President" of Belarus since 1994. 247crypto should move to that amazing country. What?since 1994? LOL, 20 years. A dictator
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AllTheBitz
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December 22, 2014, 04:51:36 AM |
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Never head this guy.
"President" of Belarus since 1994. 247crypto should move to that amazing country. What?since 1994? LOL, 20 years. A dictator Before FDR many presidents could run for more than 2 terms.
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Nemo1024
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December 22, 2014, 12:17:36 PM |
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"20 years" does not necessarily equals to a "dictator". You are looking at it from the pseudo-democratic viewpoint. It can also mean "a ruler", or "a monarch". It all depends on the standards. Belarus is the only state of the former USSR and USSR satellites that retained its industry and agriculture after USSR got broken down. Living standards are high - I know one family from Lithuania, who moved to Belarus because housing and job conditions are better there.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 22, 2014, 02:09:37 PM |
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Well, soon we can see a "Belarus spring" I guess. The khazars democratic forces of the west can't stand competition dictatorship.
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Balthazar
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December 22, 2014, 02:41:02 PM |
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Belarus is a member of Union State, it provides common citizenship, extended military and civil cooperation with RF. In other words, these are russian military bases... Thus, any such attempt of "democratic revolution" could result with big failure like referendum on accession to RF, and Lukashenko will remain in power as governor of newly formed federal district.
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December 22, 2014, 03:37:51 PM |
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Belarus is a member of Union State, it provides common citizenship, extended military and civil cooperation with RF. In other words, these are russian military bases... Thus, any such attempt of "democratic revolution" could result with big failure like referendum on accession to RF, and Lukashenko will remain in power as governor of newly formed federal district.
So they can keep their industry, and nobody will subsidize cutting back on animal breeding, chopping down fruit trees and keeping farmlands idle. Sounds good.
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youngmike
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December 22, 2014, 04:29:46 PM |
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"20 years" does not necessarily equals to a "dictator". You are looking at it from the pseudo-democratic viewpoint. It can also mean "a ruler", or "a monarch". It all depends on the standards. Belarus is the only state of the former USSR and USSR satellites that retained its industry and agriculture after USSR got broken down. Living standards are high - I know one family from Lithuania, who moved to Belarus because housing and job conditions are better there.
Of course you troll here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Welcome ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What's putin's next move to save the planet and destroy evil usa nato whatever? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I need to know! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Nemo1024
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December 22, 2014, 04:35:11 PM |
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Belarus is a member of Union State, it provides common citizenship, extended military and civil cooperation with RF. In other words, these are russian military bases... Thus, any such attempt of "democratic revolution" could result with big failure like referendum on accession to RF, and Lukashenko will remain in power as governor of newly formed federal district.
Actually, Lukashenko suggested accession of Belorus to RF sometime in the beginning of 2000s, but the idea was rejected by Putin (so much for wanting to rebuild USSR at all cost ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ). Russia was in economic shambles after Yeltsin's US-dictated neo-liberal reign, so Belorussians with their better economy and standards would not have been happy joining Russia, and it could have created unrest, that Russia definitely did not need. By the way, did anyone read Sir Terry Prattchett's Discworld series? There are some political similarities between Lukashenko and Lord Vetinari. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 22, 2014, 04:39:36 PM |
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Why 2015 can be hot in Belarus ? People in Belarus know Lukashenko, and Lukashenko know people in Belarus ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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247crypto (OP)
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December 22, 2014, 04:49:36 PM |
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blablahblah
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December 22, 2014, 06:44:08 PM |
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"20 years" does not necessarily equals to a "dictator". You are looking at it from the pseudo-democratic viewpoint. It can also mean "a ruler", or "a monarch". It all depends on the standards. Belarus is the only state of the former USSR and USSR satellites that retained its industry and agriculture after USSR got broken down. Living standards are high - I know one family from Lithuania, who moved to Belarus because housing and job conditions are better there.
Wow! Send us postcards when you stop talking shit, and move there.
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December 22, 2014, 11:32:06 PM |
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The Year 2015 might be hot in Belarus...
For a moment there I thought you were talking about his male pattern baldness and cowlick Dudes been in power a while no doubt bout that
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December 23, 2014, 06:58:28 PM |
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And an enlightening report: Make no mistake, for little Belarus, this is their star hour. Since 1994, when Lukashenko first became Belarusian president, he’s been labeled the ‘last dictator of Europe’ and tyrant. Belarus has been on and off under sanctions; the beginnings of the newly independent post-Soviet republic were very humble. All this happened because, unlike most, Belarus refused to forget the Soviet past and refused to give up their economy to please the West.
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While the West was concentrating on Russia, Ukraine and other strategic locations, Belarus remained in the shadows. Lukashenko, when he came to power, became that tough leader who managed to keep the country together and provide stability. This allowed Belarusians to slowly build on Soviet platform, developing what we now understand was a rich and profitable inheritance. While Russia was being looted by oligarchs and their Western backers, while Ukraine was also looted by oligarchs, falling at the same time deeper and deeper into its self-inflicted delusion and mass psychosis, Belarus kept its head down and worked very hard. Belarusians are very hard-working, friendly and rather low-key people. Actually, all I wanted to say about the post-Soviet state of affairs, Lada said in the quote below: Most post-Soviet republics squandered their formidable Soviet inheritance, resulting in decimation of industry, mass exodus of population, and other catastrophes. Ukraine is the best example of that
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Despite sanctions and constant fighting with the West, Lukashenko did several pretty brilliant things for his country and people:
1. Unlike most post-Soviet republics, he preserved the Soviet industrial and agricultural inheritance – and built on it.
2. Kept the country stable.
3. Managed to stay friends with Russia.
4. As a result of a special relationship with Russia, Belarus managed to receive the world’s lowest price on Russian gas and very favorable Russian loans.
5. Let’s not forget: Belarus, together with Kazakhstan and Russia is one of the three founding members of Eurasian Union.
All the above factors, but especially the cheap, cheap gas paved the way to the so-called ‘Belarusian miracle.’ Belarus pays something to the tune of $165 for its gas, which is about the same as heavily subsidized internal Russian price. Compare that to $350-400+ EU pays. The new price for gas for Ukraine is about $385, however, they don’t pay that either. Such gas price makes Belarusian economy extremely competitive internationally. Obviously, without Russian almost free gas and Russian subsidies Belarusian miracle they are so proud of would have never happened.
The above is an illustration of how Russia robbed herself to subsidize other republics, and some other poor countries, during Soviet times. Some readers asked me how Russia could have disengaged in the ’90s from Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and other republics, which allowed the US/West to infiltrate them resulting in color revolutions and anti-Russian pro-NATO states on Russian borders. Of course, it was a bad geopolitical decision to disengage. Yet, it can be understood: Russia always paid disproportioned price for supporting others, at her own expense. This made the core Russian population resentful.
Presently, Russia is attempting to balance own interests with the necessity to support allies.
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Belarus preserved all of the industrial factories Russia built on its territory during Soviet times. And then, Belarus expanded and modernized them. Today Belarus exports its machinery to over 100 countries; its busses, tractors and heavy trucks are world-known. Belarus is also well-known in the garment industry. They make clothes for export and Belarussian cheap labor (compared to Europe) is often used by Italian designers. They produce much higher quality stuff than China. Traditional Belarusian agriculture also developed well and became quite efficient. Today, Russians go to Belarus to learn agricultural management. More in: Bluff or Ukraine-2 Disaster? Why Lukashenko and Belarus Are Cozying Up to the Westhttps://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/23/bluff-or-ukraine-2-disaster-why-lukashenko-and-belarus-are-cozying-up-to-the-west/
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 27, 2014, 10:49:58 PM |
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3. Managed to stay friends with Russia.
4. As a result of a special relationship with Russia, Belarus managed to receive the world’s lowest price on Russian gas and very favorable Russian loans.
5. Let’s not forget: Belarus, together with Kazakhstan and Russia is one of the three founding members of Eurasian Union.
All the above factors, but especially the cheap, cheap gas paved the way to the so-called ‘Belarusian miracle.’ Belarus pays something to the tune of $165 for its gas, which is about the same as heavily subsidized internal Russian price. Compare that to $350-400+ EU pays. The new price for gas for Ukraine is about $385, however, they don’t pay that either. Such gas price makes Belarusian economy extremely competitive internationally. Obviously, without Russian almost free gas and Russian subsidies Belarusian miracle they are so proud of would have never happened. So, Belarus' "competitiveness" (what products do they manufacture, anyway? Do you have any idea?) is completely reliant on Putin's generosity. And when Putin decides to cancel the subsidies, all hell will break loose in North Korea Belarus, and it will all be the EU's/NATO's fault, the same as Ukraine, and your White Russian "brothers" will be sworn enemies of Russia. Thanks for the heads-up!
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