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December 22, 2014, 01:55:38 AM
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Damage Control: Left Issues Slew of Statements After Execution Style Police Killings


After months of stoking anti-police sentiment across the country, far-left organizations, leaders and government officials are in damage control mode, releasing a slew of statements in response to the execution style murders of uniformed NYPD Officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos Saturday afternoon in Brooklyn by a man claiming revenge for the cases of Michael Brown and Eric Garner.

President Barack Obama (who made a statement hours after being briefed on the golf course in Hawaii about the incident):


Attorney General Eric Holder:

“I condemn this afternoon's senseless shooting of two New York City police officers in the strongest possible terms. This was an unspeakable act of barbarism, and I was deeply saddened to hear of the loss of these two brave officers in the line of duty.

“On behalf of all those who serve in the United States Department of Justice, I want to express my heartfelt condolences to the officers' loved ones and colleagues. I will make available all of the resources of the Department to aid the NYPD in investigating this tragedy.

"This cowardly attack underscores the dangers that are routinely faced by those who protect and serve their fellow citizens. As a nation we must not forget this as we discuss the events of the recent past. These courageous men and women routinely incur tremendous personal risks, and place their lives on the line each and every day, in order to preserve public safety. We are forever in their debt.

"Our nation must always honor the valor -- and the sacrifices -- of all law enforcement officers with a steadfast commitment to keeping them safe. This means forging closer bonds between officers and the communities they serve, so that public safety is not a cause that is served by a courageous few, but a promise that's fulfilled by police officials and citizens working side by side."


New York City Mayor Bill De Blasio:

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Even though the assailant took his own life, we'll be vigilant for any information about anyone else who might be involved. And this is a point to make clear to all my fellow New Yorkers – that any time anyone has information that there might be an attack on our police, there might be an act of violence directed at any police officer, it is imperative that that be reported immediately. You heard the commissioner outline the tragic timeline, but anybody who sees a posting on the internet or any other indication of an intention to attack the police must report it immediately. Call 9-1-1. Report it to a police officer. But whatever the situation, that information must get into the hands of the police immediately, so we can protect the lives of our police officers and, in fact, of all of us, since they protect us.


De Blasio must have missed the "peaceful" protestors in New York marching with Al Sharpton last week chanting, "What do we want? Want dead cops! When do we want them? Now!"

The protesters were part of Al Sharpton’s “Million Marchers” protest against police violence. The protesters chanted “What do we want?… Dead cops!” as they marched in New York City.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8


De Blasio also missed this woman.




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December 22, 2014, 02:04:33 AM
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‘Blood on His Hands’: Phalanx of NYPD Officers Turn Backs on de Blasio at Press Conference



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=340BwSPY_bk



A throng of NYPD officers at New York’s Woodhull Hospital turned their backs on Mayor Bill de Blasio as he arrived at a press conference on the execution-style murder of two New York cops, with police union president Pat Lynch claiming the mayor has “blood on [his] hands.”

The two officers were killed on Saturday as they sat in their patrol car by a Baltimore man, whose social media posts strongly suggest he traveled to New York to take revenge for the killings of Eric Garner and Michael Brown at the hands of police.

Many NYPD officers were angry at de Blasio even before the killings, accusing the mayor of inciting weeks of protests and maligning an entire police department after a Staten Island grand jury decided not to try the cop who killed Garner.

While the police at Woodhull Hospital stuck to their silent protest against the mayor, Lynch explicitly placed culpability for the murders on de Blasio.

“There is blood on many hands tonight — those that incited violence on the streets under the guise of protest, that tried to tear down what New York police officers did every day,” the union president told the media Saturday night. “That blood on the hands starts on the steps of City Hall, in the office of the mayor.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/395163/blood-his-hands-phalanx-nypd-officers-turn-backs-de-blasio-press-conference-brendan


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December 22, 2014, 02:46:26 AM
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First world problems...

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December 22, 2014, 04:02:41 AM
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The guy was crazy as fuck, he already killed his ex-girlfriend, he has nothing to do with the people who are legitimately protesting the clearly rampant police brutality in america.

So we should just continue to let the cops get away with killing innocent people on the streets with no protests because of one crazy guy?

The idea that the mayor somehow has blood on his hands just because he didn't condemn the protestors is fucking stupid

He was a crazy fucker, he woulda killed those cops regardless of what the mayor did or said.
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December 22, 2014, 04:32:17 AM
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The guy was crazy as fuck, he already killed his ex-girlfriend, he has nothing to do with the people who are legitimately protesting the clearly rampant police brutality in america.

So we should just continue to let the cops get away with killing innocent people on the streets with no protests because of one crazy guy?

The idea that the mayor somehow has blood on his hands just because he didn't condemn the protestors is fucking stupid

He was a crazy fucker, he woulda killed those cops regardless of what the mayor did or said.


Cop Killer Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley WAS A Garner/Ferguson Protester


One of Brinsley’s friends, Awk Smith, spoke to DailyMail.com in Brooklyn – feet away from the crime scene – to describe how Brinsley had been ‘acting strange’ in the wake of the Eric Garner grand jury trial.

Father-of-six Garner was killed by NYPD officer Daniel Pantaleo, who arrested him for selling loose cigarettes on the street, then held him in a fatal chokehold

The killing provoked global outrage, sparked violent protests across the US, and exposed severe racial divisions in New York City.

Mr Smith, who was a member of rap outfit P.Y. Gang with Brinsley, described their recent practises: ‘We all noticed he was acting strange… different, it was kind of like he wasn’t there when you spoke to him. He wasn’t saying very much and he wasn’t performing. He had a different kind of passion.’

Another member of the group, Paul Yawney, said Brinsley took part in the recent anti-police protests.

Yawney said: ‘He posted motivational stuff on Instagram and went to the protests. I think this really came as a shock to a lot of us. He shot his girlfriend this morning then went to shoot those cops. It’s scary to think that’s what he was thinking.’








http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882105/Two-New-York-police-officers-shot-Brooklyn.html#i-5263f4024b93e8d2



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December 22, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
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Just because he marched in the protests doesn't mean squat. He was insane. Anyone can march in a protest. Undercover cops do it all the time when they attempt to incite a riot so the cops can crack down.

It's extremely unfortunate what he did, but the guy was clearly batshit, that doesn't mean the average protestor wants to kill cops.

The trend in america is clear, and it is that police brutality is perfectly acceptable and that cops will rarely if ever be held accountable for their actions. This has not changed. Therefore people should continue to protest.
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December 22, 2014, 04:57:29 AM
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The guy was crazy as fuck, he already killed his ex-girlfriend, he has nothing to do with the people who are legitimately protesting the clearly rampant police brutality in america.

So we should just continue to let the cops get away with killing innocent people on the streets with no protests because of one crazy guy?

The idea that the mayor somehow has blood on his hands just because he didn't condemn the protestors is fucking stupid

He was a crazy fucker, he woulda killed those cops regardless of what the mayor did or said.

"Legitimately protesting" you sir have no fucking clue what your "Freedom fighters" stand for.

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December 22, 2014, 04:59:30 AM
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Setting aside for a second that it is ridiculous to blame the left for the acts of one man...

Are we going to forget that there is a legitimate history of white police officers targeting and killing Black Americans?  I don't condone the taking of any life or any violence - let's be clear on that - but I also do not think that blaming the left for inadequacies in a system that has produced a lack of transparency within the police system to such an extent that the United States, as the 'freest nation in the world', imprisons a disproportionate amount of the worlds population is the answer.

There is plenty of data on this topic.  There is also, of recent, plenty of video evidence to support the use of excessive force by police and there is also an inordinate amount of evidence regarding Police Union lobbying of Congress for laws that will perpetuate the imprisoning of American Citizens (mostly minorities) for victimless crimes.

Pretty much...stating that the left is responsible or insinuating they are is misrepresentative of what is a very real sociological issue and a perpetuation of partisan politics (which invariably is a perpetuation of the sociological conflict).

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December 22, 2014, 05:04:36 AM
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The guy was crazy as fuck, he already killed his ex-girlfriend, he has nothing to do with the people who are legitimately protesting the clearly rampant police brutality in america.

So we should just continue to let the cops get away with killing innocent people on the streets with no protests because of one crazy guy?

The idea that the mayor somehow has blood on his hands just because he didn't condemn the protestors is fucking stupid

He was a crazy fucker, he woulda killed those cops regardless of what the mayor did or said.

"Legitimately protesting" you sir have no fucking clue what your "Freedom fighters" stand for.

People are tired of unwarranted police brutality. People are tired of cops acting like they are paramilitary brigades.

As long as the police continue to remain out of control these protests will continue.

Just because this crazy fuck did what he did doesn't mean the primary issues aren't still there  Roll Eyes
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December 22, 2014, 05:08:31 AM
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Setting aside for a second that it is ridiculous to blame the left for the acts of one man...

Are we going to forget that there is a legitimate history of white police officers targeting and killing Black Americans?  I don't condone the taking of any life or any violence - let's be clear on that - but I also do not think that blaming the left for inadequacies in a system that has produced a lack of transparency within the police system to such an extent that the United States, as the 'freest nation in the world', imprisons a disproportionate amount of the worlds population is the answer.

There is plenty of data on this topic.  There is also, of recent, plenty of video evidence to support the use of excessive force by police and there is also an inordinate amount of evidence regarding Police Union lobbying of Congress for laws that will perpetuate the imprisoning of American Citizens (mostly minorities) for victimless crimes.

Pretty much...stating that the left is responsible or insinuating they are is misrepresentative of what is a very real sociological issue and a perpetuation of partisan politics (which invariably is a perpetuation of the sociological conflict).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJlXYWW_Dw

He was a good boy.

Here is the deal. You cant fucking resist arrest if you do your fighting back and can be shot for attacking a cop. and it shouldn't be about race because plenty of white people have been killed by cops and haven't been armed so don't start with that race card bullshit.

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Where are his riots where are people looting stealing for him?

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The guy was crazy as fuck, he already killed his ex-girlfriend, he has nothing to do with the people who are legitimately protesting the clearly rampant police brutality in america.

So we should just continue to let the cops get away with killing innocent people on the streets with no protests because of one crazy guy?

The idea that the mayor somehow has blood on his hands just because he didn't condemn the protestors is fucking stupid

He was a crazy fucker, he woulda killed those cops regardless of what the mayor did or said.

"Legitimately protesting" you sir have no fucking clue what your "Freedom fighters" stand for.

People are tired of unwarranted police brutality. People are tired of cops acting like they are paramilitary brigades.

As long as the police continue to remain out of control these protests will continue.

Just because this crazy fuck did what he did doesn't mean the primary issues aren't still there  Roll Eyes

I am fully against the police state, BUT I am against everything being a race issue when it doesn't need to be.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJlXYWW_Dw

He was a good boy.

Here is the deal. You cant fucking resist arrest if you do your fighting back and can be shot for attacking a cop. and it shouldn't be about race because plenty of white people have been killed by cops and haven't been armed so don't start with that race card bullshit.

There's actually no evidence that he was resisting arrest (if there is than present it before you continue.  I mean actual evidence aside from witness account which I will show to be inadequate in a second).  But there is plenty of evidence that the Grand Jury was manipulated...

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/12/17/was_key_grand_jury_witness_in

The Prosecutor even admitted that he allowed a known liar to testify...http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/ferguson-prosecutor-allowed-lies-before-jury.html

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/4-things-should-happen-now-we-know-truth-about-witness-40-white-supremacist

Witness 40 obfuscated the evidence presented to the Grand Jury...which indicates that there was a biased effort to ensure a non indictment...

Your quoted assertion doesn't hold any weight.


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On the same page, we can ask why snipers pointing weapons at federal weapons at federal agents weren't demonized for breaking the law.  Or a whole slew of other examples.


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December 22, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
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Setting aside for a second that it is ridiculous to blame the left for the acts of one man...

Are we going to forget that there is a legitimate history of white police officers targeting and killing Black Americans?  I don't condone the taking of any life or any violence - let's be clear on that - but I also do not think that blaming the left for inadequacies in a system that has produced a lack of transparency within the police system to such an extent that the United States, as the 'freest nation in the world', imprisons a disproportionate amount of the worlds population is the answer.

There is plenty of data on this topic.  There is also, of recent, plenty of video evidence to support the use of excessive force by police and there is also an inordinate amount of evidence regarding Police Union lobbying of Congress for laws that will perpetuate the imprisoning of American Citizens (mostly minorities) for victimless crimes.

Pretty much...stating that the left is responsible or insinuating they are is misrepresentative of what is a very real sociological issue and a perpetuation of partisan politics (which invariably is a perpetuation of the sociological conflict).


REMEMBER WHEN THE GABRIELLE GIFFORDS SHOOTING WAS SARAH PALIN'S FAULT?
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I do.  At the time, no one was calling for a weapons ban, the Left and their media pals were calling for a Palin ban. 

Keith Olbermann went further and suggested Bill O’Reilly and conservative commentators were partly responsible. 

Before the identity of the shooter was known Paul Krugman was blaming the tea party movement. 

Media Matters for American made the case that Palin and other Fox News personalities were the root of the devastation that had been inflicted on the young congresswoman’s life. 

And yet, yesterday in the senate hearing on President Obama’s proposed “assault weapon” ban, Palin,O’Reilly, Breitbart, tea party and overall political rhetoric was not discussed at all.  Ms. Giffords and her husband Mark Kelly called for a weapons ban (even though the weapon used on Ms. Giffords would not be banned under the proposed legislation), a ban on high-capacity magazines (which was used in the shooting), and more extensive background checks (even though Jared Loughner cleared a background check before going on his sadistic rampage). 

So now, two years later, is the Left finally absolving Sarah Palin and the rest of us from the guilt they hurled at us at the time of the tragic shooting?  Of course not.  They have just found a new reason to exploit the horrible crime… and its victims. 

http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2013/01/31/remember-when-the-gabrielle-giffords-shooting-was-sarah-palin-s-fault/


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December 22, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
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I also think it was/is ridiculous to blame Palin for that (and I am far from being a fan of hers). 

The media blame game is usually fallacious as heck, regardless of which side is doing it. 

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December 22, 2014, 06:56:00 PM
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I also think it was/is ridiculous to blame Palin for that (and I am far from being a fan of hers). 

The media blame game is usually fallacious as heck, regardless of which side is doing it. 




I agree but the genie is out of the bottle. If one side is OK doing it, the other side can too.

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December 22, 2014, 07:03:46 PM
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NAACP Leader: “It’s Not Fair” to Blame Top Democrats for Execution Murders of Two NYPD Officers (Video)




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December 22, 2014, 07:25:41 PM
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I also think it was/is ridiculous to blame Palin for that (and I am far from being a fan of hers). 

The media blame game is usually fallacious as heck, regardless of which side is doing it. 




I agree but the genie is out of the bottle. If one side is OK doing it, the other side can too.


The irony is kind of amusing.  You are using the "Two Wrongs Make A Right" fallacy...

http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#TuQuoque

I can be done with this thread; carry on if you must...-thumbsup-

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December 22, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
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I also think it was/is ridiculous to blame Palin for that (and I am far from being a fan of hers). 

The media blame game is usually fallacious as heck, regardless of which side is doing it. 




I agree but the genie is out of the bottle. If one side is OK doing it, the other side can too.


The irony is kind of amusing.  You are using the "Two Wrongs Make A Right" fallacy...

http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#TuQuoque

I can be done with this thread; carry on if you must...-thumbsup-

I never said it was right or good to do it. I am just saying if one camp (left) does it then it automatically gives the other camp (right) the right to do it too.

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December 22, 2014, 10:59:03 PM
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Flashback: TIME Warns Right-Wing “Extremist Militias” May Kill Cops, Ambush Them In Their Patrol Cars…



Time Magazine warned of a growing threat to cops nationwide in September 2010. The nationally renowned publication argued that sinister individuals would launch targeted attacks against police officers and even ambush them in their patrol cars.

Time alerted readers that these groups and individuals have a disturbing hatred of cops and that there was a real threat of “lone-wolf” attacks.

Who are these groups that present such a threat to police? Right-wing militias, according to Time.

In a lengthy six-page article entitled “The Secret World of Extremist Militias,” then-Time Contributing Editor-at-Large Barton Gellman made the case that America should be deeply worried about private citizens forming militias.



http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/21/time-right-wing-militias-are-the-real-threat-to-cops/




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Key word: lone-wolf.




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