What factors make you trust a dice site?

[ticoti]

time
trustability in payments
cold storage proves
good support
and a lot of factors else

[rozee]

time
trustability in payments
cold storage proves
good support
and a lot of factors else

yes trustability in payment is the most factor we can trus with a dice site

[faeyza]

good support too
friendly and no arrogant 

[angeloanggam]

good support too
friendly and no arrogant 

That is right.. Just like Win88.

[jarrick]

Yes. The best things is the support and their trustworthy. I am really a loyal clients for the site that serve me that way.

[bitbaby]

I don't really care about the license, although your post did made me think about its requirement in the future. For now the only think I look for in a dice site is that it's provably fair, instant deposit/withdrawals, trustworthy owner and that it works smoothly.

[Yuki1988]

it really depends on how they handle security in my view. if they do it very poor, and the user based is effected, then everyone will leave something similar like that one site called dicebitco.in that lost over night due to a supposedly a rogue employee.

it was a huge mess with people who invested on that site on the investor side. outside from the player side manipulation.

Dicebitco.in didn't have a security issue. Instead, they have been caught cheating, not just once but twice.

How come a provably fair site is cheating?

The provably fair feature can't stop a site from cheating. But if a site cheats, its players will notice and can prove it.

Dicebitco.in cheated by skipping nonce. In layman's terms, they skip the bets that you will win, and only give you bets that you lose.

[Gianluca95]

Factors that I use to give trust a dice site is:

1- Time of creation. More old is, better is
2- Constant presence on the forum
3- Constant communication with the user
4- Time for withdrawal must be instant
5- quantity of btc invested in that site

[Udyr]

there was a recent incident on pd, on how they handled a attack.

each time, stunna is responding to the base of the important statements towards his site. I would trust any site, that follows the same level integrity. Outside from the whole timely payout thing.

[Ziggs]

just follow how pd did their site.

1. design
2. answering concerned questions when people asked faq`s
3. payouts
4. do give aways etc

the list goes on, but basically replicate what they are doing.

[Yuki1988]

just follow how pd did their site.

1. design
2. answering concerned questions when people asked faq`s
3. payouts
4. do give aways etc

the list goes on, but basically replicate what they are doing.

PD has done a very great job, but a new site shouldn't replicate PD's design at all. We have had enough of that.

[mindrust]

They should be %100 "provably fair"

I never play without the "provably fair" feature.

If it is "Provably Fair", then you are safe. (till your luck decides otherwise at least)

[ComboChris]

They should be %100 "provably fair"

I never play without the "provably fair" feature.

If it is "Provably Fair", then you are safe. (till your luck decides otherwise at least)

Provably fair only provides for the site not manipulating rules. They could still run with your money and I'm just concerned, that there would be no way to get your money back in that case, since all owners of the top sites are phantoms. Provably fair is a really nice feature that makes me prefer Bitcoin dice sites over fiat currency sites (along with the low house edge ).

[Yuki1988]

They should be %100 "provably fair"

I never play without the "provably fair" feature.

If it is "Provably Fair", then you are safe. (till your luck decides otherwise at least)

Provably fair only provides for the site not manipulating rules. They could still run with your money and I'm just concerned, that there would be no way to get your money back in that case, since all owners of the top sites are phantoms. Provably fair is a really nice feature that makes me prefer Bitcoin dice sites over fiat currency sites (along with the low house edge ).

Exactly, and as I said in the above post, being provably fair doesn't prevent the site from cheating. It just helps the players to notice the cheating.

That's why you should really check the site history and feedback before depositing your coins.

[galbros]

The key rule of dice sites is don't play or invest more than you can afford to lose.  Since there is no regulation you have to build up trust the old fashioned way - by interacting.

So what makes a site trustworthy?  If it is started by someone already established in the bitcoin community.  Dooglus is a prime example of this.  He'd been active for quite some time before starting Just-Dice.

A legitimate provably fair system.  This has been around for years and is a great way to reduce the trust needed for players.  Keep in mind that investors can always be cheated.

Good documentation and communication via support and chat.

[Xerath]

i think as long as your site has a nice design, not copied.

and you follow up on all measures of payout and security plus answering questions you should be fine.

but that also means you need to address critics who dont think your site is fair.

[Shogen]

i think as long as your site has a nice design, not copied.

and you follow up on all measures of payout and security plus answering questions you should be fine.

but that also means you need to address critics who dont think your site is fair.

That is easier said than done lol. There will always be people having difficulty to understand how "provably fair" works, and some will just keep saying "it is impossible to get x losses consecutively.

[monetizator4]

First of all the dice should be probably fair.

Do you mean provable?  

1. https security connection
2. contact information
3. withdrawal minimum and conditions
4. reading site's livechat
5. googling "sitename is scam''
6. searching 'sitename tread on bitcointalk

I check these things before starting to play on new site.
When I earn minimal amount I withdraw it just to check how does it work.

[2dogs]

I rely a lot on the feedback from certain members.

If a site gets any unfavorable remarks, I usually avoid it.

[Berthorl]

i think there should be a tutorial on how a probably fair site works.

and how to check its roll being fair, because I also dont know how to check outside from the nonce #`s being in order. but thats about it, on how i know its fair if it doesnt skip #`s.