default trust member was trying to extort from me, left negative feedback

[onewiseguy]

so I bought a SR member account couple months ago, from seller. than i get an email from some random person stating the person selling the account never paid the actual owner for the account and ran, I paid the seller, now this random person is stating that his friend wants the bitcoin paid to him or he will leave negative feedback. keep in mind the past owner never contacted me and let me know of this. so I decided  to pay him why would I pay double.  now that random person left a negative feedback stating it was a stolen account. and I am stuck with it. is there any thing i can do about this. like i said the original owner never once contacted me.

seller: Gumble99
person that sent pm randomly :Gambitv

Account in question
Jazkal

[KWH]

Gambitv = another user that should not be on the Trust list. Added via Canaryinthemine for apparently buying USB miners.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891301.0

Contact the seller and ask him to confirm sale. Buying an account WILL subject said account to Negative feedback.

[Beastlymac]

This situation again shows how having canaryinthemine on level one of he default trust tree is having severe negative repercussions on members of the community. Moving him down to level two trust would decrease the problems.

[MadZ]

Considering Gumble disappeared when he was first accused of stealing the Jazkal account in August, I would say there is some merit to the feedback.

Yes, this is a shitty situation for the OP, but selling stolen accounts is against the forum rules, so the account should be returned to the original owner. Seller also owes the OP whatever he paid, good luck finding him though. Also, I know people would love to turn this into another CanaryInTheMime witch-hunt, but the feedback just says the account was stolen and sold. People in default trust tag accounts like this all the time and no one cares, stop trying to make this a bigger issue.

[opossum]

There is probably some merit to the feedback however it is really the original owner's of Jazkal fault for most likely not using escrow. This essentially means that the owner gave gumball his password without first receiving any kind of meaningful assurance that he would receive payment.

[onewiseguy]

Considering Gumble disappeared when he was first accused of stealing the Jazkal account in August, I would say there is some merit to the feedback.

Yes, this is a shitty situation for the OP, but selling stolen accounts is against the forum rules, so the account should be returned to the original owner. Seller also owes the OP whatever he paid, good luck finding him though. Also, I know people would love to turn this into another CanaryInTheMime witch-hunt, but the feedback just says the account was stolen and sold. People in default trust tag accounts like this all the time and no one cares, stop trying to make this a bigger issue.

okay here is the real situation,

between these parties

1:me the buyer
2:gumble the broker if he is a broker for this account
3:? the original owner
4: random guy leaving feedback gambitv

first of all we do not know if this is a stolen account because original owner never once did contact me nor did he made it public.

besides Gambitv sending me a PM stating it was stolen. if that was the case than why did the original owner contact me and verify some things with me. instead gambit was the one who contacted me.  for all we know gambit and gumble is the same person.


why should I pay double or even return the account when the original owner never contacted me. if he did and it was true and he could verify the account with me than of course it would of made sense.


Also, I know people would love to turn this into another CanaryInTheMime witch-hunt, but the feedback just says the account was stolen and sold.

but there is no proof the account was stolen. thats the issue.

[onewiseguy]

There is probably some merit to the feedback however it is really the original owner's of Jazkal fault for most likely not using escrow. This essentially means that the owner gave gumball his password without first receiving any kind of meaningful assurance that he would receive payment.

How is there some merit to the feedback?  The original owner never contacted me.

[opossum]

There is probably some merit to the feedback however it is really the original owner's of Jazkal fault for most likely not using escrow. This essentially means that the owner gave gumball his password without first receiving any kind of meaningful assurance that he would receive payment.

How is there some merit to the feedback?  The original owner never contacted me.

The person who left you negative feedback and the original owner could be one and the same.

This is probably an example of someone being on default trust list who is an inexperienced trader (only participated in one transaction with a trustworthy person), tried to sell his account via gumble99, didn't use escrow so gubmle decided to run away and create a new account while stealing the account and the proceeds from the sale

[Quickseller]

so I bought a SR member account couple months ago......

That's where I stopped reading.

Buying a SR account or any account is scammy as hell and anything that happens bad to you for doing it is deserved.

You will probably acquire quite a few more negative tryst ratings from posting about it.

There is no legit reason to buy an account.



~BCX~

Do signature campaigns not pay more for senior accounts anymore?

[onewiseguy]

so I bought a SR member account couple months ago......

That's where I stopped reading.

Buying a SR account or any account is scammy as hell and anything that happens bad to you for doing it is deserved.

You will probably acquire quite a few more negative tryst ratings from posting about it.

There is no legit reason to buy an account.



~BCX~

buying an account is spammy? but its allowed on the forum? and anything that happens because I bought an account is deserved?
your just a nice hero **** arnt you.
There is no legit reason to buy an account? besides signature campaigns right. or is that scammy too?

[onewiseguy]

well i can say you are right about buying accounts. stupid mistake.

[hilariousandco]

buying an account is spammy? but its allowed on the forum? and anything that happens because I bought an account is deserved?
your just a nice hero **** arnt you.
There is no legit reason to buy an account? besides signature campaigns right. or is that scammy too?

Yes, I think we are communicating well.

There is no legit reason to buy an account.


~BCX~

You might not agree with account sales but there are valid reasons for buying/selling them - signature campaigns being one of them. You can also buy one to get past the annoying newb restrictions or just to help your business selling things here. That being said, they can be bought to exploit all those things or just outright scam but those instances are usually rare and are swiftly dealt with by the community and/or staff.

[BitMiningInvestments]

buying an account is spammy? but its allowed on the forum? and anything that happens because I bought an account is deserved?
your just a nice hero **** arnt you.
There is no legit reason to buy an account? besides signature campaigns right. or is that scammy too?

Yes, I think we are communicating well.

There is no legit reason to buy an account.


~BCX~

You might not agree with account sales but there are valid reasons for buying/selling them - signature campaigns being one of them. You can also buy one to get past the annoying newb restrictions or just to help your business selling things here. That being said, they can be bought to exploit all those things or just outright scam but those instances are usually rare and are swiftly dealt with by the community and/or staff.

How many accounts have you bought hilarious?

Or are you not comfortable answering that?

[hilariousandco]

69. I'm perfectly comfortable with answering it. I honestly haven't bought a single one.

[BitMiningInvestments]

69. I'm perfectly comfortable with answering it. I honestly haven't bought a single one.

Thats not what I heard...

[hilariousandco]

Well whatever you heard is obviously bs, so I wouldn't pay attention to 'what you heard' (that's if you even 'heard' anything at all and are likely just making crap up to troll which I suspect you are). And If you heard I'm satoshi would you believe it? No. Anyway, it's clear you have some sort of agenda signing up merely to ask this question.

[onewiseguy]

BitMiningInvestments GTFO

[BitMiningInvestments]

Well whatever you heard is obviously bs, so I wouldn't pay attention to 'what you heard' (that's if you even 'heard' anything at all and are likely just making crap up to troll which I suspect you are). And If you heard I'm satoshi would you believe it? No. Anyway, it's clear you have some sort of agenda signing up merely to ask this question.

This is a 2012 account, I didn't just sign up. I saw messages from you trying to buy accounts from an account seller whos account was compromised. This was a long time ago before you were staff. Dosn't really matter anyways since almost every staff member here abuses their power, theymos snoops on PM's when he is bored.

[hilariousandco]

When it was signed up is irrelevent but it's clear you solely hopped onto that account to post your thoughts on the matter. Did you hack that account or compromise the account sellers one? It's entirely possible many moons ago I may at some point have enquired about account sales or been offered to purchase them (likely unsolicited), but regardless, what I said is true and I haven't purchased a single one. Not that there would be anything wrong with that nor would it be an 'abuse of power' anyway.

[BitMiningInvestments]

When it was signed up is irrelevent but it's clear you solely hopped onto that account to post your thoughts on the matter. Did you hack that account or compromise the account sellers one? It's entirely possible many moons ago I may at some point have enquired about account sales or been offered to purchase them (likely unsolicited), but regardless, what I said is true and I haven't purchased a single one. Not that there would be anything wrong with that nor would it be an 'abuse of power' anyway.

But you do have more than one account right?