default trust member was trying to extort from me, left negative feedback

[hilariousandco]

Yep. I have more than one.

I actually just went through all my sent messages and seemingly the only time I ever enquired about the possibility of buying one was this:

Propose me how can we safe exchange.

I'm not sure there really is a safe way to exchange without one of us trusting the other but it's not something I'd be comfortable with sending first.

Which he PMd me because of this post in his thread:

This account is worth 10btc
You would make 0.4 back in 1 week? Then, by all means, I would buy the account ASAP If I were you!

I might be interested if there was a way to guarantee a safe exchange, but I wouldn't just blindly send my hard-earned BTC to someone who might not even have the accounts they are advertising that's for sure. 

Keyword might. And that was the end of my discussion with subud. I never really trusted him and he seemed pretty scammy. But yeah, never bought an account though I certainly had entertained or flirted with the idea at the time. 

[BitMiningInvestments]

Yep. I have more than one.

If you are so trustworthy and don't have anything to hide then you won't have any problem posting the names of those account here.

[hilariousandco]

Yep. I have more than one.

If you are so trustworthy and don't have anything to hide then you won't have any problem posting the names of those account here.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

I have my privacy, which I am entitled to, but I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

[MadZ]

Yep. I have more than one.

If you are so trustworthy and don't have anything to hide then you won't have any problem posting the names of those account here.

I don't think you really have any grounds to ask these types questions when you're clearly not using your main account.

[BitMiningInvestments]

Yep. I have more than one.

If you are so trustworthy and don't have anything to hide then you won't have any problem posting the names of those account here.

I don't think you really have any grounds to ask these types questions when you're clearly not using your main account.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[hilariousandco]

BitMiningInvestments has revealed his alt to me via PM. In the interests of transparency I will post the message here:

Ok deal, this is my main account now show me yours.

And also make good on my promise to reveal mine. My alt account is: hilariousetc.

[BitMiningInvestments]

ROFL!

So what will it take to get you to expose your other alt accounts?

[hilariousandco]

What's funny? And what other ones? What will it take me to get you to reveal all yours?

[BitMiningInvestments]

What's funny? And what other ones? What will it take me to get you to reveal all yours?

Why do you even want to reveal my accounts? Why do you even care?

I'll list all my accounts out here but you gotta list all of yours first. Thats what it'll take. I trusted you, now you have to trust me.

[MadZ]

What's funny? And what other ones? What will it take me to get you to reveal all yours?

Why do you even want to reveal my accounts? Why do you even care?

To quote your very own words:

If you are so trustworthy and don't have anything to hide then you won't have any problem posting the names of those account here.

 

Seems to me that your refusal to list the names of your accounts by your own admission means you are either untrustworthy and/or have something to hide. Why don't you back your words up by acting in accordance with them instead of harassing others?

[BitMiningInvestments]

What's funny? And what other ones? What will it take me to get you to reveal all yours?

Why do you even want to reveal my accounts? Why do you even care?

To quote your very own words:

If you are so trustworthy and don't have anything to hide then you won't have any problem posting the names of those account here.

 

Seems to me that your refusal to list the names of your accounts by your own admission means you are either untrustworthy and/or have something to hide. Why don't you back your words up by acting in accordance with them instead of harassing others?

Ad hominem again.

It isn't my trustworthiness that is at question, it is hilariousandco's, who is a staff member here. If you want to question my trustworthiness go create your own topic. My trustworthiness is irrelevant, I'm just asking valid questions and pointing out facts that hilarious clearly doesn't like so he resorts to trying to attack me. I'm giving him a chance to be honest before I start posting everything I have found.

And I am not refusing to list my accounts, if he wants to know them he can, he just has to tell everyone all of his.

[hilariousandco]

What's funny? And what other ones? What will it take me to get you to reveal all yours?

Why do you even want to reveal my accounts? Why do you even care? Is it because you're mad that I am showing everyone what a scummy scammer-helping sockpuppeting chav you are? you've probably got more kids than teeth.

Haha. Are you actually being serious? Why do you care? I actually can't believe the irony and hypocrisy (aka stupidity) here as it was you that instigated this 'exposing' crusade and these things you are accusing me of are all things that all apply to you. You have yet to show any evidence of such 'scummy-scammer' behaviour from me yet have literally displayed the exact same yourself. I also don't have any kids by the way. Don't want any either. I don't want to live my entire life with the fear that they would grow up to be chavs or people like you.

It isn't my trustworthiness that is at question, it is hilariousandco's, who is a staff member here. If you want to question my trustworthiness go create your own topic. My trustworthiness is irrelevant, I'm just asking valid questions and pointing out facts that hilarious clearly doesn't like so he resorts to trying to attack me. I'm giving him a chance to be honest before I start posting everything I have found.

And I am not refusing to list my accounts, if he wants to know them he can, he just has to tell me his.

My trustworthiness doesn't seem to be at question here either. Just hot air from a troll and scammer. I emplore you to post everything or anything you think you may have against me in the interest of transparency. I actually don't have anything to hide so I'm sure anything you think you may have against me can easily be refuted or squashed. I would never do anything nefarious or against the rules here and never have so please post the evidence.

And I don't care about your accounts, but you seem to care about mine for some personal reason.

[BitMiningInvestments]

Haha. Are you actually being serious? Why do you care? I actually can't believe the irony and hypocrisy (aka stupidity) here as it was you that instigated this 'exposing' crusade and these things you are accusing me of are all things that all apply to you. You have yet to show any evidence of such 'scummy-scammer' behaviour from me yet have literally displayed the exact same yourself. I also don't have any kids by the way. Don't want any either. I don't want to live my entire life with the fear that they would grow up to be chavs or people like you.

I didn't say you were a scammer, I said you were a scammer-helper and that you have alts. You have already admitted in this thread that you have tried to buy accounts from an account seller in the past and there is other evidence to suggest you have sockpuppet accounts, which I might be posting (I don't want to unnecessarily expose my sources).

My trustworthiness doesn't seem to be at question here either. Just hot air from a troll and scammer. I emplore you to post everything or anything you think you may have against me in the interest of transparency. I actually don't have anything to hide so I'm sure anything you think you may have against me can easily be refuted or squashed. I would never do anything nefarious or against the rules here and never have so please post the evidence.

And I don't care about your accounts, but you seem to care about mine for some personal reason.

I care about yours because you are the one in a position of trust, I am not. And just because everything you do is by the rules doesn't mean it doesn't make you untrustworthy, I am aware you're allowed to have alts but many people do not like the idea of a staff member having secret alt accounts and possibly buying/selling accounts.

[hilariousandco]

I didn't say you were a scammer, I said you were a scammer-helper and that you have alts. You have already admitted in this thread that you have tried to buy accounts from an account seller in the past and there is other evidence to suggest you have sockpuppet accounts, which I might be posting (I don't want to unnecessarily expose my sources).

So while I was typing this you changed it from will be exposing to might be haha. And what's wrong with trying to buy an account (again, which I never actually did). It wasn't really much of a 'try' either but more that I flirted/considered the possibility of it). Two messages is quite a half-assed try, though I think the bigger question here is what were you doing in possession of - or had access to - the messages of a hacked account (not to mention the one you PMd me from with several scam accusations against it)?

I care about yours because you are the one in a position of trust, I am not.

Then you've best post the evidence of these nefarious socks ASAP for the benefit of the community and stop stalling. You don't have anything because there isn't anything for you to have. You just saw the messages from me ages ago to the account seller and assumed I had more and was fishing for me to willingly expose them and now you're just trying to spread fud.

I am aware you're allowed to have alts but many people do not like the idea of a staff member having secret alt accounts and possibly buying/selling accounts.

Who are these many people? You and possibly some nosey curtain-twitchers? I think you will likely find that most of the staff here will have or admit to having at least one other 'secret' account and it's actually encouraged by theymos for certain situations. And you shouldn't really be bothered by how many accounts anyone has as long as they're not doing anything dodgy with them, but again, why are you so concerned with how many accounts you think I have? Did I say something you didn't like or bust one of your scams one time? Boo-hoo .

[BitMiningInvestments]

Who are these many people? You and possibly some nosey curtain-twitchers? I think you will likely find that most of the staff here will have or admit to having at least one other 'secret' account and it's actually encouraged by theymos for certain situations. And you shouldn't really be bothered by how many accounts anyone has as long as they're not doing anything dodgy with them, but again, why are you so concerned with how many accounts you think I have? Did I say something you didn't like or bust one of your scams one time? Boo-hoo .

It's not hard to imagine that a staff member could abuse his power to aid his alt accounts, which is what I believe you are doing. And signing up with multiple accounts to signature campaigns which only allow one account is considered scamming, which I believe you have done in the past. I also think that you are knowingly helping scammers though I'm not sure why yet but I suspect because you do business with them.

People care about unfair moderation, scamming and staff helping scammers.

And I don't scam people. Full disclosure, you do say things that I don't like from time to time but thats not why I am here.

[hilariousandco]

It's not hard to imagine that a staff member could abuse his power to aid his alt accounts, which is what I believe you are doing.

Yes, that could happen, though it hasn't and wouldn't ever happen with me. All this other stuff you're accusing me of is complete fabrication so stop wasting everyone's time and actually voice your concerns and provide the evidence you think you have. I guarantee you're wrong here and the only thing you'll likely do is implicate innocent users so make sure you actually have evidence and not just half-assed and incorrect assumptions.

I also think that you are knowingly helping scammers though I'm not sure why yet but I suspect because you do business with them.

What business is that? I've barely done any trades here and the ones I have are all detailed in my feedback sent and recieved.

People care about unfair moderation, scamming and staff helping scammers.

I agree wholeheartedly, so if you ever have any concerns with any staff you should post the evidence immediately as if there was a staff member doing this they should also be removed immediately.

[Quickseller]

BitMiningInvestments has revealed his alt to me via PM. In the interests of transparency I will post the message here:

Ok deal, this is my main account now show me yours.

And also make good on my promise to reveal mine. My alt account is: hilariousetc.

I was going to say that BitMiningInvestments was an alt of TF or Blazr as TF had access to BTCTalkAccounts per this post and Blazr was apparently an alt of BTCTalkAccounts (not 100% on this). However it appears that the account that hilariousandco sent a PM to regarding potentially buying an account is a different account selling account (although it is plausible that BTCTalkAccounts had more then one account selling account for a number of reasons, including the fact that they were apparently banned).

I am fairly certain that you are an alt of the person who hacked RiverBoatBTC as you gave me negative trust right around the time I revealed that the hacker was trying to sell the account. This post promises "revenge" for my revealing that it was trying to be sold. Additionally my only communication with you is below:

Hey,

I don't think we have done business before. Please remove the feedback you left me

No

LOL?

So you are going to leave the negative trust there because of......

Who are you?

Which you left me additional negative feedback for trying to blackmail you. I think it is reasonable to conclude the above message is not blackmail.

Since the account that Hilariousandco sent a PM to regarding buying an account dealt in hacked accounts, and BitMiningInvestments had it's password reset recently, I would believe that BitMiningInvestments is probably a hacked account.

I would also conclude that you are an alt of one of the many account sellers that has recently popped up on here and/or are otherwise involved in the sale of accounts (maybe via off forum trades). You appear to either think hilariousandco sells accounts (so you want to bash your competition) or do not like the fact that he often defends the sale of accounts (which would hurt off forum trades).

EDIT: the feedback that you left me is another indication that you are trying to harm your competition (if you are in fact selling accounts) and is an indication of you trolling

[BitMiningInvestments]

I was going to say that BitMiningInvestments was an alt of TF or Blazr as TF had access to BTCTalkAccounts per this post and Blazr was apparently an alt of BTCTalkAccounts (not 100% on this). However it appears that the account that hilariousandco sent a PM to regarding potentially buying an account is a different account selling account (although it is plausible that BTCTalkAccounts had more then one account selling account for a number of reasons, including the fact that they were apparently banned).

I am fairly certain that you are an alt of the person who hacked RiverBoatBTC as you gave me negative trust right around the time I revealed that the hacker was trying to sell the account. This post promises "revenge" for my revealing that it was trying to be sold. Additionally my only communication with you is below:

ROFL! and I thought that BTCTalkAccounts = You.

Guess I'll have to leave you another neg for spreading lies.

[Quickseller]

I was going to say that BitMiningInvestments was an alt of TF or Blazr as TF had access to BTCTalkAccounts per this post and Blazr was apparently an alt of BTCTalkAccounts (not 100% on this). However it appears that the account that hilariousandco sent a PM to regarding potentially buying an account is a different account selling account (although it is plausible that BTCTalkAccounts had more then one account selling account for a number of reasons, including the fact that they were apparently banned).

I am fairly certain that you are an alt of the person who hacked RiverBoatBTC as you gave me negative trust right around the time I revealed that the hacker was trying to sell the account. This post promises "revenge" for my revealing that it was trying to be sold. Additionally my only communication with you is below:

ROFL! and I thought that BTCTalkAccounts = You.

Guess I'll have to leave you another neg for spreading lies.

I am not sure what you are claiming to be a lie It isn't like your trust isn't obvious trolling as there is 0 evidence attached to them, plus anytime someone leaves multiple negative trust reports their credibility declines.

For the record, no I am not BTCTalkAccounts. I try to avoid dealing with hacked accounts. As I am fairly certain you said to me (via RiverBoatBTC)

I believe you. Scotaloo never seemed to care about his reputation and always bought hacked accounts. It's funny because your writing style is exactly the same and you do all the same shit he did, buying and selling accounts over many different alts...

So you do have a main here? I wonder who it is, lol

From the time you started trolling onward really should be split into another thread as your trolling has caused this to get very offtopic

[hilariousandco]

Since the account that Hilariousandco sent a PM to regarding buying an account dealt in hacked accounts, and BitMiningInvestments had it's password reset recently, I would believe that BitMiningInvestments is probably a hacked account.

I would also conclude that you are an alt of one of the many account sellers that has recently popped up on here and/or are otherwise involved in the sale of accounts (maybe via off forum trades). You appear to either think hilariousandco sells accounts (so you want to bash your competition) or do not like the fact that he often defends the sale of accounts (which would hurt off forum trades).

EDIT: the feedback that you left me is another indication that you are trying to harm your competition (if you are in fact selling accounts) and is an indication of you trolling

This is probably the closest to the truth. He obviously deals in accounts in some capacity and is trying to cause a fuss around what he sees as competition. Though I think he may actually genuinely believe I'm involved in some business that I'm not, but he doesn't have anything other than incorrect suspicions and assumption.

ROFL! and I thought that BTCTalkAccounts = You.

Quite clearly you don't put too much effort into your 'thoughts' or accusations.