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December 28, 2014, 09:05:18 PM
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Just more BS from people who do not understand what they are talking about. They have this preconceived notion of what Bitcoin is.

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December 28, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
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It has and is continuing to serve as an awesome store of value for me.

You clearly do not understand what "store of value" means. If something goes from $1 to $1000 in the span of a couple of years, that's ample evidence of its total inability to serve as a store of value. (And I am not even going to bother addressing the case when that something goes from $1000 to $300 in less than a year.)

A store of value means something that was valued at $1000 a century ago is still valued at approximately $1000 inflation-adjusted dollars today. Not wildly more and not wildly less. Bitcoin is most definitely not that "something".

What you are actually saying that that buying bitcoins has been a very good speculation for you. I'm happy for you but that doesn't change the fact that bitcoins are apparently unable to serve as a store of value.
Bitcoin is not a very good store of value today, however bitcoin is still very young. Many/most financial products that are a good store of value today were also very volatile (in terms of price) when they were first priced.

I am not saying that bitcoin will be a good store of value certainly, but I am saying that it can potentially be a good one in the future

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December 28, 2014, 11:52:57 PM
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Bitcoin "hasn't worked well as a store of value"?

The price has risen from less than $1 per BTC in 2009 to $325 per BTC today.

Trailing 5 years, it has outperformed every fiat currency, stocks, bonds, real estate, and all commodities.

Yes it is volatile but so are fiat currencies. Chat with anyone who held dollars from 1977 through 1983 or, more recently, the ruble.

Bitcoin is not working well as a store of value becasue we are not using it for what it was meant for. To many idiots think its a replacement for cash. IT IS NOT, it was a feature to cash, it will NEVER replace cash what it could replace and actually threatens to replace is market moving banks, debit cards, money transfer places and companies like paypal.

Yes fiat markets are volatile, but its because of the supply, demand, manipulating banks and collusion. But most importantly out of the 4 is demand. Bitcoin has no real demand, no one needs to use bitocin to purchase anything. The uses and demand it has right now are trivial, gamblers get to gamble because of it, kids get to buy game updates and other useless nonsense, but with Fiat one country MUST buy another countries fiat if they want to buy a product from that country. That means they have NO CHOICE but to trade their money for another countries money./ That is a real currency demand. Not amazon, not gambling, not steam and valve games. The absolute must that you have no choice but trade your cash for another countries cash so you can do business with them.

That is the absolute truth behind bitcoin and its demand right now. We Dont Have any Demand and the supply outweighs that lack of a demand.

The russian Rouble dropped for a couple reasons sanctions and the price of eastern oil dropped drastically due to the fact they have a much higher supply of oil than a demand for it. The difference between the rouble and bitcoins everyone knows at some point the rouble will rebound, even if sanctions are not lifted if the price of eastern oil rises way above what it was before the decline the rouble will bounce right back. And what Russia realizes that USA and other countries imposing the sanctions, those places can only go so long without Russian oil, the USA will only supply a certain amount until it starts impeding on their future plans. China and Russia are very close so China will not impede on Russian territory and sell their oil there. Russia knows this and is not concerned because before its all over these sanctions that killed the rouble will make it triple in price past what it was before the drop.

There is nothing pushing the value of bitoin up. Right now bitcoins value is just a number on our computer screen and nothing securing that number.

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December 29, 2014, 12:07:02 AM
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Bitcoin "hasn't worked well as a store of value"?

The price has risen from less than $1 per BTC in 2009 to $325 per BTC today.

Trailing 5 years, it has outperformed every fiat currency, stocks, bonds, real estate, and all commodities.

Yes it is volatile but so are fiat currencies. Chat with anyone who held dollars from 1977 through 1983 or, more recently, the ruble.

Bitcoin is not working well as a store of value becasue we are not using it for what it was meant for. To many idiots think its a replacement for cash. IT IS NOT, it was a feature to cash, it will NEVER replace cash what it could replace and actually threatens to replace is market moving banks, debit cards, money transfer places and companies like paypal.

Yes fiat markets are volatile, but its because of the supply, demand, manipulating banks and collusion. But most importantly out of the 4 is demand. Bitcoin has no real demand, no one needs to use bitocin to purchase anything. The uses and demand it has right now are trivial, gamblers get to gamble because of it, kids get to buy game updates and other useless nonsense, but with Fiat one country MUST buy another countries fiat if they want to buy a product from that country. That means they have NO CHOICE but to trade their money for another countries money./ That is a real currency demand. Not amazon, not gambling, not steam and valve games. The absolute must that you have no choice but trade your cash for another countries cash so you can do business with them.

That is the absolute truth behind bitcoin and its demand right now. We Dont Have any Demand and the supply outweighs that lack of a demand.

The russian Rouble dropped for a couple reasons sanctions and the price of eastern oil dropped drastically due to the fact they have a much higher supply of oil than a demand for it. The difference between the rouble and bitcoins everyone knows at some point the rouble will rebound, even if sanctions are not lifted if the price of eastern oil rises way above what it was before the decline the rouble will bounce right back. And what Russia realizes that USA and other countries imposing the sanctions, those places can only go so long without Russian oil, the USA will only supply a certain amount until it starts impeding on their future plans. China and Russia are very close so China will not impede on Russian territory and sell their oil there. Russia knows this and is not concerned because before its all over these sanctions that killed the rouble will make it triple in price past what it was before the drop.

There is nothing pushing the value of bitoin up. Right now bitcoins value is just a number on our computer screen and nothing securing that number.


I quit reading at "NEVER". You are full of ignorant, emotional post today. Still trying to sell you bitcoin for $800? Lol what a moron.
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December 29, 2014, 12:07:35 AM
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Believing New York State could kill bitcoin with regulation is like believing that Homo Sapiens could destroy the universe by polluting Earth.

Absurd.

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