Loan Request: 0.65BTC, Collateral Included -- 10% Interest, 0.726BTC/7 Days

[moreia]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894044.0 -- ALL DETAILED INFORMATION and PAST REPAYMENTS can be found here. This thread is simply for records.

Amount Needed: 0.65BTC
Collateral: My BitcoinTalk Account (your choice).
I prefer no collateral, but that is your choice. I will only give collateral without escrow to SOLID GREEN TRUST members. Besides this we use escrow, though I really prefer doing this loan with a trusted member without escrow, I'm happy to go first in that case.
Interest: 10% (.726BTC total repayment)
Reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894044.0 -- ALL details here.

Completed Loans:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894044.msg9852778#msg9852778 - lihuajkl (0.35BTC)
REPAID: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894044.msg9888821#msg9888821
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889775 - Blazedout419 (0.3BTC)
REPAID: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889775.msg9810692#msg9810692
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=901169.0 - kpitti (0.5BTC)
REPAID: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=901169.msg9948997#msg9948997


Thank you!

[moreia]

Loan Address: 1AbPEJEGeuvXDoD2qGeYf8P5TB6nwseNrQ
Status: UNFILLED FILLED

Loan amount:  .65BTC
Repayment Terms:  7 days due on January 03rd 2015
Repayment Amount:  .726BTC
Repayment Address: 18QHkstdfrJUuF8Mn3xeajTQDn8f22ku74
Collateral : Forum account held by Redsn0w.
Transaction of loan:   https://blockchain.info/tx/654400b9d948f756488b2978b4b7045a120f184a13a66487bf32688fd0ccee8a

Somebody quote this please.

[BiTJack]

Send you a PM.

[moreia]

Send you a PM.

Contacting redsn0w for escrow now!

[redsn0w]

Ok,     @BiTJack  you can send him the loan.

[BiTJack]

Loan Address: 1AbPEJEGeuvXDoD2qGeYf8P5TB6nwseNrQ
Status: UNFILLED

Sent!
Transaction ID - https://blockchain.info/tx/654400b9d948f756488b2978b4b7045a120f184a13a66487bf32688fd0ccee8a
Repaying address will be the same : 18QHkstdfrJUuF8Mn3xeajTQDn8f22ku74

Ok,     @BiTJack  you can send him the loan.

Please confirm!

[moreia_alt]

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

[Quickseller]

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

How do you know he gave bitjack your account? He hasn't posted from it.

[BiTJack]

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

Redsn0w have the credentials of your account, i have no details of it. He needs to confirm here that he has taken the ownership of the account.

[moreia_alt]

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

How do you know he gave bitjack your account? He hasn't posted from it.

I went afk for a sec and I come back to this email:

Redsn0w to me:
I have changed the password , and I will give the access data to him when I see that you have received the loan.

He is giving him the account as if I have already defaulted when this IS NOT what I have agreed on!! I am extremely worried about my account, and who's ownership it is in.

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

Redsn0w have the credentials of your account, i have no details of it. He needs to confirm here that he has taken the ownership of the account.

You are not to login to my account nor know the credentials of it UNLESS I default on the loan, THAT is how I have gone with every other loan here and that is what I specified in the group PM between myself, you and the escrow.

[BiTJack]

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

How do you know he gave bitjack your account? He hasn't posted from it.

I went afk for a sec and I come back to this email:

Redsn0w to me:
I have changed the password , and I will give the access data to him when I see that you have received the loan.

He is giving him the account as if I have already defaulted when this IS NOT what I have agreed on!! I am extremely worried about my account, and who's ownership it is in.

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

Redsn0w have the credentials of your account, i have no details of it. He needs to confirm here that he has taken the ownership of the account.

You are not to login to my account nor know the credentials of it UNLESS I default on the loan, THAT is how I have gone with every other loan here and that is what I specified in the group PM between myself, you and the escrow.

Well, i agreed to the terms but Redsn0w seems to have gotten in some misunderstanding. I have no details of you account and he haven't send me anything.
I have sent him a PM and Email, he need to confirm now. He's went offline too!!

[moreia_alt]

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

How do you know he gave bitjack your account? He hasn't posted from it.

I went afk for a sec and I come back to this email:

Redsn0w to me:
I have changed the password , and I will give the access data to him when I see that you have received the loan.

He is giving him the account as if I have already defaulted when this IS NOT what I have agreed on!! I am extremely worried about my account, and who's ownership it is in.

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

Redsn0w have the credentials of your account, i have no details of it. He needs to confirm here that he has taken the ownership of the account.

You are not to login to my account nor know the credentials of it UNLESS I default on the loan, THAT is how I have gone with every other loan here and that is what I specified in the group PM between myself, you and the escrow.

Well, i agreed to the terms but Redsn0w have gotten in some misunderstanding. I have no details of you account and he haven't send me anything yet.
I have sent him a PM and Email, he need to confirm now. He's offline now!!

I am respectfully asking that if redsn0w sends you account details you DO NOT login, and that you request redsn0w to change the password for the security of this deal and for my own conscience.
I was in fury about 10 minutes ago when I got that email thinking that this deal could of crashed and burned. BUT never the less, my faith has been restored and you've gained my trust so far.
Hopefully this deal is smooth sale from here on out. Waiting on redsn0w's email reply or post.

[BiTJack]

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

How do you know he gave bitjack your account? He hasn't posted from it.

I went afk for a sec and I come back to this email:

Redsn0w to me:
I have changed the password , and I will give the access data to him when I see that you have received the loan.

He is giving him the account as if I have already defaulted when this IS NOT what I have agreed on!! I am extremely worried about my account, and who's ownership it is in.

REDSN0W YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE BITJACK THE ACCOUNT UNLESS I DEFAULT ON THE LOAN

PLEASE recover my account IMMEDIATELY. He is not supposed to have any access to the account UNLESS the loan defaults!!!!

Please change my signature to "Redsn0w owns this account in collateral" when redsn0w recovers my account. I am getting extremely worried!!

Redsn0w have the credentials of your account, i have no details of it. He needs to confirm here that he has taken the ownership of the account.

You are not to login to my account nor know the credentials of it UNLESS I default on the loan, THAT is how I have gone with every other loan here and that is what I specified in the group PM between myself, you and the escrow.

Well, i agreed to the terms but Redsn0w have gotten in some misunderstanding. I have no details of you account and he haven't send me anything yet.
I have sent him a PM and Email, he need to confirm now. He's offline now!!

I am respectfully asking that if redsn0w sends you account details you DO NOT login, and that you request redsn0w to change the password for the security of this deal and for my own conscience.
I was in fury about 10 minutes ago when I got that email thinking that this deal could of crashed and burned. BUT never the less, my faith has been restored and you've gained my trust so far.
Hopefully this deal is smooth sale from here on out. Waiting on redsn0w's email reply or post.

Likewise, waiting for him to confirm and reply here. But an Escrow shouldn't go offline in the middle of a deal!
The one should be worrying is me.

[Argwai96]

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

[WhatsBitcoin]

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

This. Noticing this as well. If you look at this user's past history he also has a frequency to gamble high amounts (his case against fairproof) and sent out bugged links or something which many people thought was an attempt to scam.

I would be leary to lend this user especially more than 0.40 (the max the account is worth).

[moreia_alt]

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

Every week I am paying developer fees, this is the second last loan until im done.
I have one more loan of .8BTC until ive gotten enough to pay all developer fees and then I am no longer in need of loans for this specific project

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

This. Noticing this as well. If you look at this user's past history he also has a frequency to gamble high amounts (his case against fairproof) and sent out bugged links or something which many people thought was an attempt to scam.

I would be leary to lend this user especially more than 0.40 (the max the account is worth).

I only gamble with my own money. That's was my own money, and I was scammed. That has nothing to do with loans.

[Argwai96]

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

This. Noticing this as well. If you look at this user's past history he also has a frequency to gamble high amounts (his case against fairproof) and sent out bugged links or something which many people thought was an attempt to scam.

I would be leary to lend this user especially more than 0.40 (the max the account is worth).

Your point about the malware is another major concern for any potential escrow. He claimed that the account was being held by the lender when the malware was supposedly sent out (the loan was not done publicly). He now has made two consecutive claims of not getting his account back in a timely manner (and the escrow releasing the account details to the lender).

[WhatsBitcoin]

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

Every week I am paying developer fees, this is the second last loan until im done.
I have one more loan of .8BTC until ive gotten enough to pay all developer fees and then I am no longer in need of loans for this specific project

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

This. Noticing this as well. If you look at this user's past history he also has a frequency to gamble high amounts (his case against fairproof) and sent out bugged links or something which many people thought was an attempt to scam.

I would be leary to lend this user especially more than 0.40 (the max the account is worth).

I only gamble with my own money. That's was my own money, and I was scammed. That has nothing to do with loans.

"Gamble with your own money". All of this is your own money. This loan is your own money. What are you talking about? If you have money to gamble why do you need the loan? Makes no sense, just another red flag. If this is really such an important project why "spend" money that could be used on this project for gambling?

[Argwai96]

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

Every week I am paying developer fees, this is the second last loan until im done.
I have one more loan of .8BTC until ive gotten enough to pay all developer fees and then I am no longer in need of loans for this specific project

In other words you plan on repaying this loan then taking out another loan for .8 and running away. It does not make any sense to be continuously be taking out a new loan after the previous one has been repaid as you are doing. If you are really paying developer fees then you should just tell your dev that you will be a week late/behind on payment (as you are taking out weekly loans) then you would save on interest.

I am sorry to bitjack for calling him out on this right after you lent him money as this will increase the chance that he will not repay you

[moreia_alt]

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

Every week I am paying developer fees, this is the second last loan until im done.
I have one more loan of .8BTC until ive gotten enough to pay all developer fees and then I am no longer in need of loans for this specific project

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

This. Noticing this as well. If you look at this user's past history he also has a frequency to gamble high amounts (his case against fairproof) and sent out bugged links or something which many people thought was an attempt to scam.

I would be leary to lend this user especially more than 0.40 (the max the account is worth).

I only gamble with my own money. That's was my own money, and I was scammed. That has nothing to do with loans.

"Gamble with your own money". All of this is your own money. This loan is your own money. What are you talking about? If you have money to gamble why do you need the loan? Makes no sense, just another red flag. If this is really such an important project why "spend" money that could be used on this project for gambling?

For starters I am not in the same financial situation I was in when I was playing at FairProof. I lost 8BTC from those scammers. They stole that from me.
That was also months ago now.

Also, these development fees are quite expensive. My own funds are of course being used, though it isn't enough to cover everything (2.6BTC short hence the partial loans).

I do not gamble unless I can afford to lose, when I played at FairProof I could afford to lose, though I didn't and being scammed 8BTC was a position i couldn't be in. If I wasn't scammed I would not need these loans, that's a fact we cannot change.

Tldr, financial situations change. Why are you bringing situations back from months ago when I haven't even been involved in the gambling scene since being scammed by fairproof?

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

This. Noticing this as well. If you look at this user's past history he also has a frequency to gamble high amounts (his case against fairproof) and sent out bugged links or something which many people thought was an attempt to scam.

I would be leary to lend this user especially more than 0.40 (the max the account is worth).

Your point about the malware is another major concern for any potential escrow. He claimed that the account was being held by the lender when the malware was supposedly sent out (the loan was not done publicly). He now has made two consecutive claims of not getting his account back in a timely manner (and the escrow releasing the account details to the lender).

1. Maidak was online (so his profile said) so I got worried. That was solved within 24 hours and resolved.
2. Redsn0w has not followed the procedure both myself and BiTJack agreed to Via PM if he sends te credentials to the lender.

What has this got to do with the malware incident, getting scammed by fairproof (which I still am owed AT THE MINIMUM 1.5BTC) and my loans for my projects??

Am I the only person who has noticed that the OP is requesting increasingly large loans as soon as the previous loan has been repaid, while using the exact same collateral each time? This appears to be some kind of reputation building scam.

From what I have seen, senior accounts do not sell for .65

Every week I am paying developer fees, this is the second last loan until im done.
I have one more loan of .8BTC until ive gotten enough to pay all developer fees and then I am no longer in need of loans for this specific project

In other words you plan on repaying this loan then taking out another loan for .8 and running away. It does not make any sense to be continuously be taking out a new loan after the previous one has been repaid as you are doing. If you are really paying developer fees then you should just tell your dev that you will be a week late/behind on payment (as you are taking out weekly loans) then you would save on interest.

I am sorry to bitjack for calling him out on this right after you lent him money as this will increase the chance that he will not repay you

Who the hell are you to come here and tell me how to do business with my developer? I've been doing perfectly fine the past 3 loans and im more than happy to do 2x .4BTC loans instead of a .8BTC one if you are that persistent in being an asshole.

Seriously, this hasn't hindered anyone's chances to get repaid. I'll repay just as I have the last 3 loans. Just because you THINK you have called me out by bringing back situations from months ago, really hasn't done anything at all but arise problems and worries for the lenders which is completely unnecessary and unrelated.