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December 30, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
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2014 – Where it all went wrong.

2014 should have been a great year for Cryptocurrency – instead, it has been a disaster. There will be many other people giving their opinion, but for what it's worth, here's my own personal take on what went wrong in 2014, and why 2015 will be much better.


2014 saw the rise and rise of altcoins, and the rise of alternative markets and exchanges to accompany them. New coins were produced on a daily basis. These 'scamcoins' were born to die. All bar a few were designed to be pumped to the highest value possible against bitcoin, and then dumped in exchange for bitcoin.
The pump and dump mentality is that of a parasite, and just like true Darwinism, this parasite has killed it's host, and it's lifeblood.
The pump and dump era is now over – and I hope it never reappears. Altcoins started out as worthy project, with Litecoin for example, but soon flooded the whole arena with pointless creations.
In order for any Cryptocoin to be sustainable, it has to have the infrastructure behind it. It needs a full network of nodes to process the blockchain, and to continue to process that data. Without this support, the coin only exists in a few places and has no means of expansion or survival.
Most of these altcoins were created for the sole purpose of gaining nominal value against the real prize – bitcoin, and then simply unceremoniously dumped on that market for whatever bitcoin could be gained. Then the next day, produce another scamcoin to do the same.

This false market has driven down the price of bitcoin, stolen bitcoin and money from everybody, and led to derision from onlookers. The whole concept and momentum of bitcoin has been diluted by this idiocy, and I am relieved that this altcoin bubble is now imploding.

The onus is on all of us to concentrate our effort on worthy projects. If we all pull together, bitcoin litecoin, and a couple of other worthy coins can then gain acceptance and adoption. Their is only room for a few right now, although at some time in the future this may change, for now perhaps 4-5 coins will cover all options.
If we do this, then the price of these few worthy coins will rise fairly quickly, and the rewards will be more than just short term – they will change the world around us. That was the original intention of bitcoin, and so many of you have lost sight of those societal aims for your own personal greed.

In my own case, I have foregone personal income for the last year in order to help bitcoin gain traction. I have put in thousands of hours – for no return whatsoever, and I have watched thousands of you getting fleeced for your bitcoin from these pump and dump thieves. The individual stories have revealed personal tragedy and loss at the hands of these scavengers, and despite my best efforts to warn people, greed has driven people to take huge risks – and live to regret those gambles.

Lets make 2015 a lot better. Stop playing the markets and stop supporting these scamcoins.

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December 30, 2014, 11:57:16 AM
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This false market has driven down the price of bitcoin, stolen bitcoin and money from everybody, and led to derision from onlookers. The whole concept and momentum of bitcoin has been diluted by this idiocy, and I am relieved that this altcoin bubble is now imploding.

Well said sir. The key here is that all the forks just made skeptical onlookers even more skeptical. Bitcoin not taken seriously is by far my biggest concern and IMHO the biggest threat to the system

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December 30, 2014, 12:10:56 PM
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Hmmm...interesting. you do have a good point there. The most damaging effect these altcoin has done towards bitcoin is the reputation. When people start to link altcoin to crypto and naturally when you mention crypto people will indirectly link that back to bitcoin. It's cynical no matter how small or how minor it is.

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December 30, 2014, 12:12:27 PM
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Interesting post, but I disagree with most of it.

First of all, the only thing disasterous about 2014
was the price drop.  Good things happened in every other
facet of Bitcoin.

Secondly, do you have any evidence or data to support
your theory that altcoins were responsible for the price
drop? 

Most likely a lot of the pumping was done by the founders
of the altcoins.  The actual money that was drawn away
from Bitcoin into alts is probably very tiny compared
to the billions in decreased marketcap...Unless you have
data to show otherwise, I'll stick to that belief.

My theory is that supply simply outpaced demand.  Not enough
people want the thousands of new Bitcoins being mined daily.
Until the block reward halves again,  price may continue
to struggle.

I do agree on one thing though:  most of the alts are
worthless and are sleazy attempts at personal enrichment.
But I think those attempts are becoming less and less
effective.

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December 30, 2014, 12:15:34 PM
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This year i can see Bitcoin Falling and another new currency shoot for the clouds.
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December 30, 2014, 12:18:04 PM
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I disagree in 2 points:
Scamcoins weren't necessarily created to be traded for Bitcoin. I think a lot of people created them to get their loved fiat money. People who don't believe in Bitcoin, just saw another opportunity to scam stupid people.

Scamcoins are not gone. There will always be new people, who think, they missed the Bitcoin-train and are looking for alternatives. Most of them will still be stupid enough to "invest" in a Scamcoin. If the damage these Scamcoins will do, will increase or decrease in 2015 I can not say with certainty, but it seems more likely that the number of fooled people will increase, when more enter the cryptocurrency market.

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December 30, 2014, 12:20:47 PM
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This year i can see Bitcoin Falling and another new currency shoot for the clouds.

I agree that new currencies and projects/assets will see massive upsurge. 2.0 Platforms such as ripple, counterparty, NXT and its associated projects will lead the way heavily. I for one intend to get in early before missing the train on this one.
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December 30, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
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I see no proof why bitcoin price should rise in 2015.
And I agree with jonald_fyookball.

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December 30, 2014, 12:28:17 PM
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This year i can see Bitcoin Falling and another new currency shoot for the clouds.

Even if that happens, I don't see the public being open to an immediate new idea of another digital currency. And even if it does, it would be subject to manipulation. Would be nice to see ethereum making an effect.

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December 30, 2014, 12:33:52 PM
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This false market has driven down the price of bitcoin, stolen bitcoin and money from everybody, and led to derision from onlookers. The whole concept and momentum of bitcoin has been diluted by this idiocy, and I am relieved that this altcoin bubble is now imploding.

I see it slightly differently. If what you see is true, then this 'false' altcoin market only drew capital from short term speculators, not long term "believers".  I havent traded a satoshi for altcoins, and I suspect you didnt either. So the current btc valuation is probably a lot more representative  and therefore whats happened this year was a healthy correction. So thank you scam coins Smiley.

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December 30, 2014, 12:35:41 PM
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I don't think anything was wrong in 2014. The price slump was the aftermath of the bubble in 2013. The price was quite stable in 2014 and Bitcoin gained acceptance from a few more merchants, including Microsoft. Not a bad year.
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December 30, 2014, 12:36:33 PM
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Oh I see. You're gauging it by how much you can get rid of Bitcoin for in exchange for analog money. That's cute.

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December 30, 2014, 01:03:28 PM
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I wholehartedly disagree. Yes, a lot of things went terribly wrong (pump and dump scams, ponzi schemes etc.) but that's to be expected with something new. Especially with something new that revolutionises the way we do financial transactions with each other. While it is messy, I see big steps forward.

And not in the last place in the world of altcoins. I think it's a good thing that there are multiple coins in existence, in fact I think the idea that there should be only one or only a few cryptocurrencies is as absurd as the idea that there should be only one or only a few email-providers. There will be a miriad of cryptocurrencies, some of them extremely local, some larger, and some huge. That's just one of the ways cryptocurrency is a revolution - our means of doing transactions are now fully customisable and can be made to fit any social structure, and not just nation states and their derivatives.

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Everybody just has to learn how to use this stuff. That's a process of, as we say in The Netherlands, falling and getting up again.

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December 30, 2014, 01:19:17 PM
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Yep, can agree with the number of shitcoins tarnishing the reputation of cryptocurrency in general. I also agree that the number of pump-and-dump coins is starting to die off now. I believe having a few proper exchange mechanisms in place for merchants to accept them in some cases (i.e. where sales tax and so forth need to be accounted for), a few altcoins will rise above the others.
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December 30, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
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well, 2014 has been a really bad year for bitcoin because of many factors, but mtgox is a determinat factor that has spoilt bitcoin enviroment
however, we have seen lots of new investors and enterprises that have been entering into bitcoin and I think that 2015 will be a very good year for bitcoin
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December 30, 2014, 01:45:39 PM
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It was a great year in everything but... price. It has been a year of steady infrastructure growth.

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December 30, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
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well, 2014 has been a really bad year for bitcoin because of many factors, but mtgox is a determinat factor that has spoilt bitcoin enviroment
however, we have seen lots of new investors and enterprises that have been entering into bitcoin

Hasn't been that bad really. Had lots of companies getting involved and I'm sure many are planning to for next year.

and I think that 2015 will be a very good year for bitcoin

That's what people said about this year  Cheesy.

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December 30, 2014, 06:04:36 PM
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2014 should have been a great year for Cryptocurrency – instead, it has been a disaster.


false. it was the best year bitcoin ever had when you know where to look at  Roll Eyes

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December 30, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
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I see no proof why bitcoin price should rise in 2015.
And I agree with jonald_fyookball.

there is no evidence for the rise in prices, and it is not possible to increase prices in 2015 Smiley
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December 30, 2014, 06:19:49 PM
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People need to stop focusing so much on altcoins and give bitcoin the love it deserves. We need more support for projects that put money into the bitcoin economy now, (Getting paid in bitcoin) more than we need projects that take money out (Buying products with bitcoin).
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