Winklevoss ETF update, what does this mean?

[Kipsy89]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

[Bobsurplus]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

[Kipsy89]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Do you think? Man those are some reassuring words! Which lawyer is this, is he known for anything special? Aren't there some rumors about the SecondMarket not being able to cash out their money right now???

[yumei]

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

When the SEC decides that there won´t be any Bitcoin ETF, they can just invent some excuse why they won´t accept it.
Just imagine the strong banking lobby which could have strong influence on this decission. I would say 50%, 50% that we will see this ETF in 2015.

[Kipsy89]

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

When the SEC decides that there won´t be any Bitcoin ETF, they can just invent some excuse why they won´t accept it.
Just imagine the strong banking lobby which could have strong influence on this decission. I would say 50%, 50% that we will see this ETF in 2015.

Do you think it will be pushed back to 2016, or even later, or rejected completely??? But you are right that the banking lobby may try to influence that decision! This could be a very bad thing for Bitcoin. "First they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you lose."

[QuestionAuthority]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

[Bobsurplus]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Do you think? Man those are some reassuring words! Which lawyer is this, is he known for anything special? Aren't there some rumors about the SecondMarket not being able to cash out their money right now???

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/brace-yourself-for-the-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-sITHeFwvSlWO7YMDSL9n7A.html

watch that....

It's a bit dated but is still very relevant.

[Bobsurplus]

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

When the SEC decides that there won´t be any Bitcoin ETF, they can just invent some excuse why they won´t accept it.
Just imagine the strong banking lobby which could have strong influence on this decission. I would say 50%, 50% that we will see this ETF in 2015.

More Doomsday hooplaaa!

The FBI are selling BTC... Consumers are buying Homes, Cars and Boats with BTC.

Bitcoin is real man... Wake up and realize this.. You just gotta be patient... Email did not become a major player in its first few years.

Give bitcoin some time!

[Bobsurplus]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

I never really gave up on LTC, although I have not followed the market for quite some time. I hold a few stacks and maybe one day they'll be worth $40 again or even more.. As for alts.. I never liked them.. I only saw them as a vehicle to acquire more BTC and Fiat. As for the ETF and btc swings.. I couldn't care less these days.. I have a 10 and 20 year plan with btc put away that I bought when they were in the low double digits. I have fiat and btc to live off of and I make more btc daily thanks to the altmarkets.

Im a long term HODLING bull when it comes to btc.... I just think that the ETF will indeed start the next bullrun

[QuestionAuthority]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

I never really gave up on LTC, although I have not followed the market for quite some time. I hold a few stacks and maybe one day they'll be worth $40 again or even more.. As for alts.. I never liked them.. I only saw them as a vehicle to acquire more BTC and Fiat. As for the ETF and btc swings.. I couldn't care less these days.. I have a 10 and 20 year plan with btc put away that I bought when they were in the low double digits. I have fiat and btc to live off of and I make more btc daily thanks to the altmarkets.

Im a long term HODLING bull when it comes to btc.... I just think that the ETF will indeed start the next bullrun

I hope your right. It sure would be nice to have a big fat paycheck instead of all the doom and gloom we've had lately.

[SirChiko]

You're very confident.  But we're talking about different things
You're talking about how the system works.

I am confident because I know how the system works. You obviously do not, so you engage in groundless speculations.

I'm talking about fraud by people in positions of power over the system.

I am talking about the mathematics of supply and demand.

More than a couple economists and knowledgeable commentators have proposed that both Fort Knox and the NY Fed's vault are empty

Those are groundless speculations. The only facts we know for sure is that the US gold reserves have not be audited for a very long time. Saying that the gold isn't there is a groundless speculation, just like saying that the gold is there. We don't know which is the case, because of the lack of audit.

GLD's gold is being sold off to keep the price of gold low.

This, however, is pure bullshit. If the GLD custodian wasn't buying and selling the gold it claims to buy and sell, GLD wouldn't have been able to track the gold price. And in order to sell gold, you must have it. Plus, GLD regularly (daily or weekly, don't remember) publishes the serial numbers of all the gold bars in their custody.

Only a total ignoramus can claim that GLD does not have the gold it claims to have.

Germany recently demanded we give them back the gold they had left in the NY Fed's vault for safe keeping.  The US said it would take years to give it back (why?) and only shipped back a tiny percent.

Germany recently inspected its holdings at the NY Fed, was satisfied by what it saw, and decided not to press for repatriation of its gold.

But the gold they shipped back wasn't the old bars the Germans had deposited, it was new bars.  Why the change?

Why not? Gold is fungible. Germany owns gold there, not pieces of art.

Some say Germany's old bars have already been sold off, so they had to rush out and buy a little new gold.

And some say this is total bullshit. Venezuela successfully repatriated all its gold and it is not exactly a friend of the USA. The Netherlands recently successfully repatriated all its its gold. Apparently, the gold was there.

The Fed and the US Treasury know that the price of gold is the canary in the mine.  If it's price goes up, everyone will know the dollar is in trouble.

This is bullshit spewed by the gold promoters. Don't believe them, or you'll lose money. There are much more efficient ways of manipulating the currency markets.

They MUST keep the price low to keep everyone assured that the "recovery" is proceeding.

Except a few crazies, nobody cares about the gold price. That the "recovery" is fake is obvious from the falling labor force, the stagnating household income, and a zillion of other things. The gold price is falling not because of some dark conspiracy but because the dollar is going up. (Check the gold price in Russian rubles or Japanese yen.) And the dollar is going up because the global economy has started falling apart at the periphery and capital is rushing into the perceived safe haven, which is the world reserve currency.

That's mostly accomplished with naked shorting of gold on the future's market, but they have to have enough physical gold available to meet demand for the scheme to work, hence they steal from GLD's vault.

Nonsense.

The last statement about dollar going up is bullshit, the russian rubbles did loose value against every currency and it wasn't about dollar getting stronger in any way.

[Bobsurplus]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

I never really gave up on LTC, although I have not followed the market for quite some time. I hold a few stacks and maybe one day they'll be worth $40 again or even more.. As for alts.. I never liked them.. I only saw them as a vehicle to acquire more BTC and Fiat. As for the ETF and btc swings.. I couldn't care less these days.. I have a 10 and 20 year plan with btc put away that I bought when they were in the low double digits. I have fiat and btc to live off of and I make more btc daily thanks to the altmarkets.

Im a long term HODLING bull when it comes to btc.... I just think that the ETF will indeed start the next bullrun

I hope your right. It sure would be nice to have a big fat paycheck instead of all the doom and gloom we've had lately.

You see, that's what I dont get. I seen a bunch of hero and legendary members on the forum as of late bashing btc, calling for lower lows and all around turning their back on btc. I'm not sure if this is maybe because they were early adopters, who sold out for major profits early on ($1-$50)... then got trapped on the last bull run and have watched all them profits fade away or maybe its something else. Who knows?

But dont worry bud... BTC is bigger then all the hero/legendary member and this forum combined..

#ToThemoon

[QuestionAuthority]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

I never really gave up on LTC, although I have not followed the market for quite some time. I hold a few stacks and maybe one day they'll be worth $40 again or even more.. As for alts.. I never liked them.. I only saw them as a vehicle to acquire more BTC and Fiat. As for the ETF and btc swings.. I couldn't care less these days.. I have a 10 and 20 year plan with btc put away that I bought when they were in the low double digits. I have fiat and btc to live off of and I make more btc daily thanks to the altmarkets.

Im a long term HODLING bull when it comes to btc.... I just think that the ETF will indeed start the next bullrun

I hope your right. It sure would be nice to have a big fat paycheck instead of all the doom and gloom we've had lately.

You see, that's what I dont get. I seen a bunch of hero and legendary members on the forum as of late bashing btc, calling for lower lows and all around turning their back on btc. I'm not sure if this is maybe because they were early adopters, who sold out for major profits early on ($1-$50)... then got trapped on the last bull run and have watched all them profits fade away or maybe its something else. Who knows?

But dont worry bud... BTC is bigger then all the hero/legendary member and this forum combined..

#ToThemoon

Yeah but it's hard to get fucked for years and not begin hating on the jar of vasoline even if it is protecting your ass.    May all your btc dreams come true.

[Bobsurplus]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

I never really gave up on LTC, although I have not followed the market for quite some time. I hold a few stacks and maybe one day they'll be worth $40 again or even more.. As for alts.. I never liked them.. I only saw them as a vehicle to acquire more BTC and Fiat. As for the ETF and btc swings.. I couldn't care less these days.. I have a 10 and 20 year plan with btc put away that I bought when they were in the low double digits. I have fiat and btc to live off of and I make more btc daily thanks to the altmarkets.

Im a long term HODLING bull when it comes to btc.... I just think that the ETF will indeed start the next bullrun

I hope your right. It sure would be nice to have a big fat paycheck instead of all the doom and gloom we've had lately.

You see, that's what I dont get. I seen a bunch of hero and legendary members on the forum as of late bashing btc, calling for lower lows and all around turning their back on btc. I'm not sure if this is maybe because they were early adopters, who sold out for major profits early on ($1-$50)... then got trapped on the last bull run and have watched all them profits fade away or maybe its something else. Who knows?

But dont worry bud... BTC is bigger then all the hero/legendary member and this forum combined..

#ToThemoon

Yeah but it's hard to get fucked for years and not begin hating on the jar of vasoline even if it is protecting your ass.    May all your btc dreams come true.

How have you been getting fuck for years with btc??? Only way I can think of is you're the worst trader on the planet!

:p

What's the deal?

[QuestionAuthority]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

I never really gave up on LTC, although I have not followed the market for quite some time. I hold a few stacks and maybe one day they'll be worth $40 again or even more.. As for alts.. I never liked them.. I only saw them as a vehicle to acquire more BTC and Fiat. As for the ETF and btc swings.. I couldn't care less these days.. I have a 10 and 20 year plan with btc put away that I bought when they were in the low double digits. I have fiat and btc to live off of and I make more btc daily thanks to the altmarkets.

Im a long term HODLING bull when it comes to btc.... I just think that the ETF will indeed start the next bullrun

I hope your right. It sure would be nice to have a big fat paycheck instead of all the doom and gloom we've had lately.

You see, that's what I dont get. I seen a bunch of hero and legendary members on the forum as of late bashing btc, calling for lower lows and all around turning their back on btc. I'm not sure if this is maybe because they were early adopters, who sold out for major profits early on ($1-$50)... then got trapped on the last bull run and have watched all them profits fade away or maybe its something else. Who knows?

But dont worry bud... BTC is bigger then all the hero/legendary member and this forum combined..

#ToThemoon

Yeah but it's hard to get fucked for years and not begin hating on the jar of vasoline even if it is protecting your ass.    May all your btc dreams come true.

How have you been getting fuck for years with btc??? Only way I can think of is you're the worst trader on the planet!

:p

What's the deal?

The trading I've done well with but I fell for a few of the scams and thefts because they were being pitched by people I thought were reputable. The only ones that really shocked me were Bitcoinica and GLBSE. I was sure they were legit. Oh well, tomorrow is a new day right?

[Pattart]

Ive heard about this quite some time ago, it seems there's a lot of regulation and such associated with it.  Hopefully we see it soon.

[Bobsurplus]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence. The nasdaq sees trillions of dollars in volume yearly. Just dec 31st alone saw 58B traded on the nasdaq for the DAY!!!!

With that kind of liquidity and eager investors to dabble in btc were sure to see some serious gains in 2015.

#VivaLaBTC

What if the ETF isn't going to be approved? What about the BTC the twins already prepared for it? People who bought BTC in anticipation of the fund are going to dump their stash on the market... We could go much lower then...

Doomsday scenarios.  I'll bet every bitcoin I own that it will go ahead as planned. No reason not to.. The winkvoss have one of the best if not the best ETF lawyer in the country. They have enough capital to float them through any bureaucratic red tape they may find themselves dealing with.

Trust me.... The ETF will be here in 2015, and the bull run will get underway.

Have you given up on altcoins Bob (EMC2 & LTC)? I would think the spike in BTC price coming from an ETF wouldn't be enough profit fast enough for you.

I never really gave up on LTC, although I have not followed the market for quite some time. I hold a few stacks and maybe one day they'll be worth $40 again or even more.. As for alts.. I never liked them.. I only saw them as a vehicle to acquire more BTC and Fiat. As for the ETF and btc swings.. I couldn't care less these days.. I have a 10 and 20 year plan with btc put away that I bought when they were in the low double digits. I have fiat and btc to live off of and I make more btc daily thanks to the altmarkets.

Im a long term HODLING bull when it comes to btc.... I just think that the ETF will indeed start the next bullrun

I hope your right. It sure would be nice to have a big fat paycheck instead of all the doom and gloom we've had lately.

You see, that's what I dont get. I seen a bunch of hero and legendary members on the forum as of late bashing btc, calling for lower lows and all around turning their back on btc. I'm not sure if this is maybe because they were early adopters, who sold out for major profits early on ($1-$50)... then got trapped on the last bull run and have watched all them profits fade away or maybe its something else. Who knows?

But dont worry bud... BTC is bigger then all the hero/legendary member and this forum combined..

#ToThemoon

Yeah but it's hard to get fucked for years and not begin hating on the jar of vasoline even if it is protecting your ass.    May all your btc dreams come true.

How have you been getting fuck for years with btc??? Only way I can think of is you're the worst trader on the planet!

:p

What's the deal?

The trading I've done well with but I fell for a few of the scams and thefts because they were being pitched by people I thought were reputable. The only ones that really shocked me were Bitcoinica and GLBSE. I was sure they were legit. Oh well, tomorrow is a new day right?

Sorry to hear that man. But yes tomorrow is a new day. Good luck man.. i'm sure you'll figure out some way to make your own moves and get on top.

[Kipsy89]

You see, that's what I dont get. I seen a bunch of hero and legendary members on the forum as of late bashing btc, calling for lower lows and all around turning their back on btc. I'm not sure if this is maybe because they were early adopters, who sold out for major profits early on ($1-$50)... then got trapped on the last bull run and have watched all them profits fade away or maybe its something else. Who knows?

But dont worry bud... BTC is bigger then all the hero/legendary member and this forum combined..

#ToThemoon

Hero and even Legendary members don't necessarily need to be around for that long, really! A lot of them came with the first bubble of 2013, I guess. So they don't necessarily have profited from it, maybe they didn't anticipate and thus missed the second bubble of 2013 and now try to recoup their losses because they bought at the top...

[Bobsurplus]

You see, that's what I dont get. I seen a bunch of hero and legendary members on the forum as of late bashing btc, calling for lower lows and all around turning their back on btc. I'm not sure if this is maybe because they were early adopters, who sold out for major profits early on ($1-$50)... then got trapped on the last bull run and have watched all them profits fade away or maybe its something else. Who knows?

But dont worry bud... BTC is bigger then all the hero/legendary member and this forum combined..

#ToThemoon

Hero and even Legendary members don't necessarily need to be around for that long, really! A lot of them came with the first bubble of 2013, I guess. So they don't necessarily have profited from it, maybe they didn't anticipate and thus missed the second bubble of 2013 and now try to recoup their losses because they bought at the top...

yeah I hear that.. But most of the ones who caught my eye were indeed oltimers. Makes no difference anyway as bitcoin is gonna moon and mars and all that good stuff....

Most of us will be talking in 20-30-40-50 years and telling people where we were when btc hit 1k 10K 25K 50K ect..

Just like we all remember where we were when we first heard about sep 11.

[KenJackson]

It means that the next bull run is about to commence.

No, it means you guys should learn to edit.  We can all scroll.  You don't need to include the whole thread in every post.