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January 01, 2015, 03:41:08 AM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
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January 01, 2015, 02:11:06 PM
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You can normally run only one instance on your network. So fire up the node on the computer you already have running all the time, and forget about all the other equipment you have lying around.

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January 01, 2015, 04:58:00 PM
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We can use the home computer and launch the bitcoin wallet when we turn on the computer. That is a kind of full node, although it is off some time.
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January 01, 2015, 07:18:26 PM
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We can use the home computer and launch the bitcoin wallet when we turn on the computer. That is a kind of full node, although it is off some time.
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January 01, 2015, 07:22:34 PM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

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January 01, 2015, 07:26:25 PM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.
Would it be possible using a bananapi or cubietruck or something similar? Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.
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January 01, 2015, 07:30:23 PM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.
Would it be possible using a bananapi or cubietruck or something similar? Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.

3-5gb upload per day i heard.
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January 01, 2015, 11:02:15 PM
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Not the cheapest, but has been running well since it was installed 6 weeks ago.

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January 01, 2015, 11:19:31 PM
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Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.
My full node is currently using 660MB of ram, connected to 54 peers.

Not sure how much bandwidth I use each month. I have an unlimited home broadband package, so I don't worry about it.

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January 02, 2015, 09:07:03 AM
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Would it be possible using a bananapi or cubietruck or something similar? Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.

Traffic depends on the number of connections obviously. I limited them to 50 a while back.

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January 02, 2015, 10:10:39 AM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.
With some configuration, it is possible to reduce the memory footprint to as low as 200 or lower megabytes.

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January 02, 2015, 10:31:43 AM
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Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?
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January 02, 2015, 11:40:54 AM
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Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?

Mine [1] is a VServer (single core, 2 GB Ram, 50(?)GB SSD) and its fine as a node. Its a bit slow from time to time for the analysis of the mempool I want to run, but Im working on another baremetal server at home for that.


[1] http://213.165.91.169/

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January 02, 2015, 01:38:18 PM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.
With some configuration, it is possible to reduce the memory footprint to as low as 200 or lower megabytes.

Can you show me how to do this? I would prefer to use a Pi instead of an x86_64 motherboard setup.

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January 02, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
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Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?

Mine [1] is a VServer (single core, 2 GB Ram, 50(?)GB SSD) and its fine as a node. Its a bit slow from time to time for the analysis of the mempool I want to run, but Im working on another baremetal server at home for that.


[1] http://213.165.91.169/

What program did you use to get those stats?

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January 02, 2015, 02:25:26 PM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.
You can use swap and also take steps to reduce memory usage but you would need to have a hard disk/SSD connected to the pi. AFAIK, SD cards aren't designed to have a heavy read and write cycles and can be relatively slow.

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January 02, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
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What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?
You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.
With some configuration, it is possible to reduce the memory footprint to as low as 200 or lower megabytes.

Can you show me how to do this? I would prefer to use a Pi instead of an x86_64 motherboard setup.
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However, setting -listen to 0 means you will not be relaying transactions to other nodes, and that is the most important part of being a full node. You will still be receiving transactions, just not relaying them to other peers.

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January 02, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
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How about an Banana Pi as full node? It costs nearly the same as RPI but has 1GB of Ram (which should be sufficient,right) and a SATA Port.
In March I will try to get a full node running on Banana Pi with 10Mbit upload. Will there be a significant benefit for using an old SSD for Blockchain storage instead of oldschool HDD? Maybe I/O performance?

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January 02, 2015, 06:13:50 PM
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Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?

Mine [1] is a VServer (single core, 2 GB Ram, 50(?)GB SSD) and its fine as a node. Its a bit slow from time to time for the analysis of the mempool I want to run, but Im working on another baremetal server at home for that.


[1] http://213.165.91.169/

That looks really nice. Is there a step-by-step guide how to set up a full node available somewhere?
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January 02, 2015, 10:26:19 PM
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http://blog.pryds.eu/2014/06/compile-bitcoin-core-on-raspberry-pi.html

instead of the sdcard, get one external hdd and use it full time /home/ and move all the partitions to external hdd, use just a 4 gb sd for the other partitions.

Get an usb hub or use latest raspberry pi b+ with the 4 usb hubs, should do well, im planning my self to set one up in later january Smiley
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