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January 01, 2015, 07:06:10 PM |
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Please take this situation as an example and learn from it! Ensure you are always in full control of any collateral you hold, it is your responsibility! Back story: moreia's account was placed in escrow (redsn0w's service) for a 0.8 BTC loan. The email wasn't changed (redsn0w believed it was a random email), which allowed someone (supposedly the actual moreia) to reset the account's password and regain control over it, prior to the loan being paid back. Today at 07:24:47 PM - moreia - password reset via email but the email was something like that : sgssdsds@hotmail.com That's a mistake on your part redsn0w.. Whenever you escrow an account (or anything) you must ensure it is in your FULL control. This includes entering a valid email which you control. I mean no offence to redsn0w by this post. |
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moreia
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January 01, 2015, 07:10:19 PM |
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This is not what happened. Delete this topic. You are spamming
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marcotheminer (OP)
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January 01, 2015, 07:13:50 PM |
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Seems like moreia could be someone other than the original account owner. Are you still lending? Could I get .25 if I use my account as collateral?
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Magic8Ball
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January 01, 2015, 07:16:32 PM |
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Seems like moreia could be someone other than the original account owner. Are you still lending? Could I get .25 if I use my account as collateral?
It could be moreia himself too. There was a suspicion that he was building up loans and the 0.8 BTC loan was supposed to be his final. He could be trying to get as much as possible now that he has received the 0.8 BTC. How much can you lend me with my account in escrow
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moreia
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January 01, 2015, 07:17:17 PM |
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Seems like moreia could be someone other than the original account owner. Are you still lending? Could I get .25 if I use my account as collateral?
How much would you give me? |
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January 01, 2015, 07:19:01 PM |
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Seems like moreia could be someone other than the original account owner. Are you still lending? Could I get .25 if I use my account as collateral?
How much would you give me? This is beyond funny  You seriously expect lenders to be so gullible? |
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January 01, 2015, 07:19:04 PM |
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Amazing , I didn't think it was a "real" email. I'm really sorry for that mistake , but I've always changed the password, email and also the forum question of all accounts that I held in collateral.
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January 01, 2015, 07:21:34 PM |
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Amazing , I didn't think it was a "real" email. I'm really sorry for that mistake , but I've always changed the password, email and also the forum question of all accounts that I held in collateral.
I never check to see whether its real or fake, I change it anyway. One can never be too cautious. If it makes you feel any better it did not change the outcome. The account is worth not even a fifth of the loan amount, and the only damage could have been if he could have taken more loan with the recovered account which has now been prevented. |
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moreia
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January 01, 2015, 07:27:27 PM |
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Amazing , I didn't think it was a "real" email. I'm really sorry for that mistake , but I've always changed the password, email and also the forum question of all accounts that I held in collateral.
I think you are trying to steal my account because I did not tip you |
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January 01, 2015, 07:29:46 PM |
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Amazing , I didn't think it was a "real" email. I'm really sorry for that mistake , but I've always changed the password, email and also the forum question of all accounts that I held in collateral.
I think you are trying to steal my account because I did not tip you This is a DRAMA , are you serious or are you just kidding me? I know it was my "mistake" because I didn't change the email ( I thought , it was a random letters). |
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January 01, 2015, 07:31:44 PM |
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Amazing , I didn't think it was a "real" email. I'm really sorry for that mistake , but I've always changed the password, email and also the forum question of all accounts that I held in collateral.
I think you are trying to steal my account because I did not tip you Moreia get on Skype and verify this is you and I'll take off negative trust... Sorry but you are never on at this time and I don't think its you. |
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January 01, 2015, 07:34:08 PM |
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Amazing , I didn't think it was a "real" email. I'm really sorry for that mistake , but I've always changed the password, email and also the forum question of all accounts that I held in collateral.
I think you are trying to steal my account because I did not tip you its looks like this guy want to ruin redsn0w reputation too, quit it scammer, u got the 0.8 btc already, stop your drama |
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January 01, 2015, 07:42:03 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
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January 01, 2015, 07:47:22 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. |
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January 01, 2015, 07:50:18 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. Why did the person who took the loan even take back the account himself ? It is obvious that without repayment, he will get a negative trust and would never get a loan again . |
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January 01, 2015, 08:05:42 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. that is not having it in hand. That is taking his word that he will not recover the account once he gets the loan |
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January 01, 2015, 08:08:45 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. that is not having it in hand. That is taking his word that he will not recover the account once he gets the loan I've seen this email : sfdsfsfsfs@mail.com and I thought it was a random letters. Then I didn't change the email , but it is the first time *I've always changed it*. |
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January 01, 2015, 08:09:37 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. that is not having it in hand. That is taking his word that he will not recover the account once he gets the loan He thought it was an invalid email. So in his mind he had full control of the account. He did not take his word for it, he took the account and thought there was no way it could be recovered. |
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January 01, 2015, 08:23:47 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. Why did the person who took the loan even take back the account himself ? It is obvious that without repayment, he will get a negative trust and would never get a loan again . I am in several discussions with several people to borrow money. I can use my bot for a loan that helps win gambling sites hot wallet |
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January 01, 2015, 08:25:01 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. Why did the person who took the loan even take back the account himself ? It is obvious that without repayment, he will get a negative trust and would never get a loan again . I am in several discussions with several people to borrow money. I can use my bot for a loan that helps win gambling sites hot wallet Moreia Skype me I don't think is you. So I left negative trust till you can confirm. |
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January 01, 2015, 08:27:22 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. Why did the person who took the loan even take back the account himself ? It is obvious that without repayment, he will get a negative trust and would never get a loan again . That was supposed to be the last of the progressively higher loans, and I doubt it was intended to be paid back. Any loan after that is a bonus. |
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January 01, 2015, 08:33:43 PM |
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I thought this was escrow 101 - always make sure any collateral is 100% "in hand" before confirming that it is safe to send Bitcoin (when it comes to loans).
This is one reason I would never considering offering escrow services. If one party scams you then you are held responsible.
He had the collateral in hand, he made a mistake in not changing the email. No harm done, nobody else got scammed except that redsn0w has to suffer some headache. that is not having it in hand. That is taking his word that he will not recover the account once he gets the loan I've seen this email : sfdsfsfsfs@mail.com and I thought it was a random letters. Then I didn't change the email , but it is the first time *I've always changed it*. that was probably the point of him setting it to that email. |
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January 01, 2015, 10:26:24 PM |
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So to be clear redsn0w did mistake yet paid the 0.8btc formit right? Then the thread is about howmgood escrow redsn0w is then. Escrow that pays for mistakes deserves respect
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January 01, 2015, 10:28:29 PM |
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So to be clear redsn0w did mistake yet paid the 0.8btc formit right? Then the thread is about howmgood escrow redsn0w is then. Escrow that pays for mistakes deserves respect
It was not voluntary (because I thought it was a random letters so I didn't change the email). Now I'm trying to understand if he is the real "moreia" or not. |
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January 02, 2015, 10:48:49 AM |
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January 02, 2015, 08:10:51 PM |
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I'd advise Escrows to stay away from account trades or trades where they are holding a tarnish-able item because there's no way to determine who's done what and you'll be stuck making a tough decision and wasting a lot of time. I've stopped using Escrow for any code trades because of the bad experiences I've had in the past. Someone who's trading with you without Escrow usually won't go to the trouble of sending you the money and then saying the item doesn't work, making a scam report, and trying to get their money back. All the problems I've ever had with useable items have been through Escrow. Normally I don't think people will go through all the trouble, but I've seen a few cases on here where Escrow's being used and the item turns up used and nobody takes the blame.
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