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January 04, 2015, 07:49:42 PM
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Not sorry for being so blunt...

You trusted your bitcoins to any other 3rd party? You lost. You kept your coins in any other place than your wallet? You risked your money for nothing.

You daytraded? You helped the price to go down. I for one, sold only when I needed cash, only because I could not pay for much in BTC. Because if I could... I would had 0 fiat currency.

Remember that when you see the price so low it hurts. We had full power as a community to make bitcoin the 8th wonder of the world. But kinda failed.

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January 04, 2015, 07:52:12 PM
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Not sorry for being so blunt...

You trusted your bitcoins to any other 3rd party? You lost. You kept your coins in any other place than your wallet? You risked your money for nothing.

You daytraded? You helped the price to go down. I for one, sold only when I needed cash, only because I could not pay for much in BTC. Because if I could... I would had 0 fiat currency.

Remember that when you see the price so low it hurts. We had full power as a community to make bitcoin the 8th wonder of the world. But kinda failed.


Actually this is good accusation, in my eyes daytraders fuck with the value alot.

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January 04, 2015, 07:53:26 PM
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Bitcoin is a business for many.
Many companies invested in hardware to mine, dump and just "produce".. FIAT.
Many others just daytrade to get... FIAT.

....sadly, because, as many said, the tech is brilliant.

Exactly. Almost everyone is in for fiat. Speculators, traders, 'investors', miners.

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January 04, 2015, 07:57:44 PM
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if bitcoin would be superior to fiat people would not trade to fiat

There is potential here but sadly it's just a good first try and you can not trade not for fiat
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January 04, 2015, 08:02:15 PM
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if bitcoin would be superior to fiat people would not trade to fiat

There is potential here but sadly it's just a good first try and you can not trade not for fiat

Overtaking fiat is the hardest battle humanity will fight. All goverments' power is based on fiat and banks so for them, fiat is high-stakes. But that doesn't make fiat superior.

Most people obey their goverments because are programmed to do so. And if they disobey, they won't be labeled as 'free' but as traitors, liabilities and so on. Goverments keep people under control, not vice-versa (the way it should be)

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January 04, 2015, 08:02:41 PM
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Not sorry for being so blunt...

You trusted your bitcoins to any other 3rd party? You lost. You kept your coins in any other place than your wallet? You risked your money for nothing.

You daytraded? You helped the price to go down. I for one, sold only when I needed cash, only because I could not pay for much in BTC. Because if I could... I would had 0 fiat currency.

Remember that when you see the price so low it hurts. We had full power as a community to make bitcoin the 8th wonder of the world. But kinda failed.

You kinda sound like the paycoin ceo lol

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January 04, 2015, 08:14:45 PM
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We just failed the price. Which is very important. The rest are somewhat a success.


Sheesh, relax. "Failed the price"?!? Bitcoin is still up something like 7000% over the past 2 years. Without the late 2013 bubble, we'd still be up an amount over 1yr that eclipses nearly any other asset class.

Sure, the price collapse periods suck, but this is a long-term battle, and the tech and ecosystem are stronger than ever.

As someone else who weathered the 2011 bear market, I'd expect you to have more appreciation for these considerations. In 2011, the question of whether bitcoin as an ecosystem could simply evaporate was material. But now, I think it's pretty clear that we're over that existential hump (barring unforeseen technical failure).

We no longer have to convince many tech-elite investors and entrepreneurs that bitcoin is a fascinating, enabling, and foundational new technology. They get it, and that mindshare hurdle is the big one. Traders can make the short and medium-term price gyrate however they like; this is a longterm transformational technology. It's not like a viral consumer website; that's the thinking that needs to change.

 

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
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January 04, 2015, 08:20:23 PM
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There are too many people complaining about dropping bitcoin price. You shouldn't. If you are sick of this slide and fed up with bitcoin, sell all of them and don't look back. If you have high hopes for bitcoin, buy some with you spare cash. There will always be fluctuations in a speculative market, pointing fingers do not help.
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January 04, 2015, 09:13:04 PM
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Shame I did not know about BTC when it was at $30 ... then dropped to $1

That was the best time to buy coins not when it was at $1200

Maybe a lot of people get a second chance now, which would lead to more adoption and a much better future for BTC

Remember that 30/1 is = 1200/40!

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January 04, 2015, 09:17:02 PM
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Shame I did not know about BTC when it was at $30 ... then dropped to $1

That was the best time to buy coins not when it was at $1200

Maybe a lot of people get a second chance now, which would lead to more adoption and a much better future for BTC

Remember that 30/1 is = 1200/40!

RULE No1 in crypto:
You can always rebuy lower - no exception

what's it worth to you? Utillity?
I'd pay between 5$ to 60$
everthing else is hype and bubble.
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January 04, 2015, 09:29:53 PM
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There are too many people complaining about dropping bitcoin price. You shouldn't. If you are sick of this slide and fed up with bitcoin, sell all of them and don't look back. If you have high hopes for bitcoin, buy some with you spare cash. There will always be fluctuations in a speculative market, pointing fingers do not help.

A sober view on the situation. After all, this is a speculative financial market and that's the nature of speculative markets - there's always a winner and a loser. A healthy wealth-driven competition is buying low and selling high, if you're here only due to the monetary value of Bitcoin.
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January 04, 2015, 10:00:14 PM
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Current time: April 2013. Lol. LOOOL

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