Communist Bitshares Wealth Redistribution IS THEFT!

[chryspano]

[Daedelus]

[benthach]

so many overnight millionaires in this game. get your game on or left homeless

[DecentralizeEconomics]

I didn't "lose" the debate.  Stan is the one that stopped posting because it became impossible for him to refute fact.  It's not "slander" if it's true.

so many overnight millionaires in this game. get your game on or left homeless

As I have said before, of course, everyone is here to make money.  What you have to decide is who is trying to make money legitimately and who is trying to make money by other means.  You are witnessing the "battle for the blockchain" against the Corporatists / Communists who have overrun and destroyed everything else in society.

[kitarohotono]

Why cry here, just don't buy that bitshares crap 

[solid12345]

The whole thing is a fugazzi anyway, what is Bitshares buy support on poloniex, 11 btc? Yet we're told this is a 26 million dollar asset?

[TaunSew]

The whole thing is a fugazzi anyway, what is Bitshares buy support on poloniex, 11 btc? Yet we're told this is a 26 million dollar asset?

Even on day #1 most of the volume came from China.  It's probably just that investment fund in Shanghai manipulating left and right.  No real user adoption at all.

[vlight]

The whole thing is a fugazzi anyway, what is Bitshares buy support on poloniex, 11 btc? Yet we're told this is a 26 million dollar asset?

Even on day #1 most of the volume came from China.  It's probably just that investment fund in Shanghai manipulating left and right.  No real user adoption at all.

The main market for BTS/BTC was on bter.com which recently was hacked. NXT and Nubits also were hurt by this badly in terms of volume. If you look at bitsharestalk.org forum, there are quite a lot Chinese members, so it's probably not just some fund manipulation, but the actual people buying and selling BTS.

[runpaint]

I have some Bitshares DNS at Poloniex, but they delisted it because "there are no active devs". 

I haven't been able to find any information about a wallet for Bitshares DNS.  Or PTS for that matter. 

I downloaded the regular Bitshares client, but it said I had to have some Bitshares to register an address before I could deposit any Bitshares, which means I can't deposit any, which means I can't register a deposit address.  So I didn't waste any more time on it, that was about a month ago.

Back in November the developers of BitShares DNS and BitShares VOTE merged their efforts with BitShares X to form a single Super DAC called simply BitShares.

So you use your BitShares wallet to claim BTS proportional to your share of DNS or VOTE.  There will not be separate DNS or VOTE wallets.

I went online and found the faucet, then pasted that into the bitshares client, and now my client sometimes says "registration pending" and sometimes "not registered on the blockchain". 

Anyway, now Poloniex is telling me my DNS can't be sent.  So if my bitshares account does get registered, how can I claim BTS proportional to my share of DNS?

[runpaint]

Poloniex is telling me that the DNS blockchain is "defunct", and therefore the DNS can't be withdrawn even though they told me to withdraw it.

If the blockchain doesn't exist, then the coins don't exist.  I know Poloniex wouldn't intentionally sell me something that doesn't exist, so maybe it's just a misunderstanding.

The Bitshares devs are telling me that DNS was merged with Bitshares in November, before I bought the DNS from Poloniex.  But then they also said that I could use my DNS to claim Bitshares with my Bitshares wallet.

If that is not the case, and the DNS I bought at Poloniex was in fact non-existent at the time it was sold to me at Poloniex, then the sale would have been a mutual misunderstanding between both parties.  My understanding was that I was buying something I could withdraw, and clearly Poloniex also thought it could be withdrawn since they told me to withdraw it. 

Therefore, in the case of a mutual misunderstanding, the sale could possibly be considered void under certain legal precedents, and I could simply be refunded the btc I spent on the DNS.  I am currently awaiting a response from Poloniex about it.

[muhrohmat]

well as we know its pattented as communism soo the coin that is equal for every one no matter how long you mine or wokr or bussiness it means that comuninsm its leveling equal for evey one its a idea but never works people are difrent and all qeual but intelegence and efforts are difrent to that can be called as a thief coin

[TaunSew]

well as we know its pattented as communism soo the coin that is equal for every one no matter how long you mine or wokr or bussiness it means that comuninsm its leveling equal for evey one its a idea but never works people are difrent and all qeual but intelegence and efforts are difrent to that can be called as a thief coin

Equal for all but some are more equal than others.

[DecentralizeEconomics]

Why cry here, just don't buy that bitshares crap  

Personally, it doesn't affect me if everyone and their brother goes out and buys Bitshares.  Everyone has to do their own research and come to their own conclusions.  I started this thread as a warning to those who, imo, are being misled by false statements.

Non-existent, non-redeemable digital tokens masquerading as "assets" which are REALLY derivatives contracts are NOT "Safer than a Swiss Bank Account" as Bitshares repeatedly claims.  It's not "decentralized" when the wealthiest stakeholders can manipulate the delegate elections through the approval voting process, which imo is the REAL reason they chose "approval voting", a voting system known to be unfair.  It IS Corporatism / Communism because Bitshares(TM), the company, (as Stan puts it) controls the ENTIRE Bitshares' economy.  That is in fact the VERY definition of "Corporatism".  There is no difference between "State Capitalism" and "State Socialism".  You can clearly see this Communist / Corporatist dynamic playing out as they now have officially instituted a policy of blocking the flow of information to the community, retaining all information to themselves, with imo the intention of capitalizing off this "insider information".

I don't like seeing people get scammed and I don't want to see the crypto-currency movement, which was founded on the premise of economic freedom regardless of socioeconomic status, become another Corporatist stronghold like it seems everything has become these days.  I'm drawing the line here.

[DecentralizeEconomics]

I felt the need to post this here as well.

Dan is a coward for freedom to bow to his new Chinese overlords.

I like how Stan, Dan and the Bitshares' team attempts to portray themselves as Libertarians, but then the next thing you know, they're gagging everybody and hiring a PR firm to do all their talking for them.  Maybe I'm mistaken but I thought Libertarians believed in free speech.  What a complete joke.

You're right, that is a bit confusing.  They should simply claim to be the employees of a company that is for sale to the highest bidder.  A purely capitalist enterprize.  If Hitler's spawn bought $10k in BitShares and told Dan to __________________insert non-Libertarian action__________ then precident dictates that he would continue to sell his soul.

So in order to eliminate investor confusion Stan, I believe that both you and Dan should quit confusing your investors with your political ideologies and either shut up about your political opinions or align them with those of the top shareholders because you are no longer men, but corporate slaves like the rest of us who toil for big business.

Your free market coin was bought by corpratists, and you will tow the line.  Speaking of Libertarianism from here on out is no different than you releasing insider information about a merger before your PR release officially happens.  In other words:

If you are going to shut your mouth on important stuff, then keep it shut!  Your wants, hopes, and dreams for the future of BitShares and your Libertarian Utopia will no longer be taken seriously.  They would only be hypocracy. 

In a Libertarian free market Utopia, he would be fired for such brazen treason to core ideals, however, in this corporatocracy, I don’t see how he could lose his highest paid delegate status because he has supported his Chinese lords (who obviously have voting power) plans to create a sub-class of individuals who are to be kept without knowledge until the upper class (those with the knowledge) decides to give the knowledge to the lower class sub-humans.

So now we have Libertarian Stan who was getting paid to spout Libertarian ideals, but can’t anymore because the strategic political direction of the company has obviously changed.  Will Stan continue to collect the largest possible paycheck (which he was already collecting at the shareholders expense).

YES

Having a rational discussion where everyone can expand his understanding is what convinces me in the end not some some emotional and fear* driven ideology! Maybe that is wishful thinking

* fear driven because it needs to humiliate other / other groups to show own achievements (see all the humiliating memes about Daniel Larimer).

I think that you are straying from the topic of the OP which is a simple reporting of the fact, not fear, that the planet can now be divided into 2 distinct types of people:

1. Those who know the BitShares news before the official PR report is published.  The OP refers to this group affectionately as the "Oligarchs," but the term "capitalist insider" could fit as well, or you could call them simply "the informed," or "keepers of secrets," whatever, but it does not change the fact that these particular humans are now permanently distinguished as different if not more privileged (who would not want to be like them?) than the other class of humans that has now been created which is conversely:

2. Everybody else, or the uninformed, or ____insert "discriminatory" (not to be confused with "derogatory") term to effectively (or unaffectionately) label this particular type of human being as being "different" than the first class___.

Nobody is disputing or afraid of this simple fact that some BitShares holders are now "different" than others, and I do believe that everybody who learns of this fact will intuitively understand exactly which class of people that they belong to.  The message has been clearly portrayed.  If you want to discuss something pertaining to the topic of the OP, then why don't you tell me what name you will give to this class of humans (should we still refer to them as humans?) who are now considered "different"

Please  discuss, I would love to hear what clever marketing you have up your sleeve.

This class of shareholder will henceforth be referred to as _________________________.

I will personally send 1000 BTS as a marketing bounty to my favorite answer

Incidentally, an ancient definition of the word "fear" is "that which is created the moment something is named or labelled," that is why the Dao or Tao is nameless.  That which is nameless cannot be possessed.  Slave class citizens are property. 

Speaking of fun facts, the market cap of all USA Slaves prior to emancipation exceeded that of all USA real estate, or USA bank balance sheets, or total capital sunk into any USA business sector.  The total capital business book value of all the USA slaves was larger than the total capital book value of any other industry in the US.  Therefore, it is not without free market capitalist precedent that some anonymous BitShare holders (no community vote occurred) have voted to harvest a new slave class of __________(insert 1000 BTS prizewinner)_____.  Now that BitShares, the corporation, has harnessed the power of corporate slavery which has been proven most lucrative, its market cap will surely be sustained at these levels, but at what cost?  The cost of freeing the slaves would be that there would have been some cheap shares on the market as soon as the slave driving Chinese sold their shares in disgust at Dan's refusal to create 2 separate classes of shareholder. 

I would have bought some of those cheap shares and stood proudly beside you my fearless freedom fighter, but instead, you sold me into slavery my friend, and I'm sitting here ralphing my guts out regretting the time I wasted fighting for a coward.  My own personal historical horror show will endlessly loop within my subconscious afterlife as the sinister realization of the heinous punchline that not only did I condone slavery, but championed the whip as well.  What a soul sucking learning experience this has been for me.

I thought that we would fight fearlessly to the death together, but instead, I'm betrayed.  Such is my destiny.

The topic of this thread is not weather or not anybody is embarrassed by this fact, or intends to do anything about the perfectly legal insider trading that can now occur prior to an "official BitShares PR"; this thread is simply designed to enlighten the world to this freshly created crypto fact.

"Back in the day, buying a slave was like buying a Ferrari.  Congratulations on your purchase BitShare holders.  Drive it with pride!"

OMG STAN!  THE SLAVES ARE WAKING UP!!! THE SLAVES ARE WAKING UP!!!!11111

BitcoinJesus2.0 used to be a very strong advocate of Bitshares.  It's understandable why he is upset over the situation.  Everyone invested in Bitshares, imo, is getting sold down the river to line Stan, Dan, and I3's pockets.

Everyone wants to make money to provide better for themselves and their families, but at what cost?  Do we turn from our morals and start selling each other out for a measly dollar?  I hope not.  I can write this and honestly say, I have never made a dime from illegitimate means, fooling others, taking advantage of the uninformed or betraying my ideals.  This is what is most important.  Corporatism has no place on the blockchain and anyone participating in corporatist schemes will only get betrayed and enslaved.

[testz]

If you communism expert you should be aware of:

If enemies scold us, we do everything correctly. If praise - we should look for, where we screwed up... (c) Stalin

PS: Looking forward for new posters. 

[achimsmile]

BitShares has never fallen from the Top 5 on www.coinmarketcap.com


and never will...

Your claim lasted 1 month + 1 day

[DecentralizeEconomics]

May the light of rational thought and truth shine

they fear the truth.

and nothing will stop the truth.  

BitShares has never fallen from the Top 5 on www.coinmarketcap.com




and never will...

It seems BItshares is suffering a catastrophic collapse.  It has plunged in value over the last few days and fallen to #6.  I suspect this is due to multiple reasons.

Imo, the main cause of this is because Bitshares(TM), the company, is in fact a "company" in the truest sense of the word.  Look at how many "companies" fail in the first few years of operation.  The mass majority fail.  Now compare this to decentralized movements.  If Bitshares(TM), the company, fails, then the current Bitshares' blockchain becomes entirely worthless.  In comparison to a truly decentralized movement, there is no "company" that controls the blockchain and imo, this removes the inherent risk of the "company" failing and taking the blockchain down with it.

I don't bring up Bitshares losing its #5 marketcap spot to gloat, but instead to reinforce, imo, the risk of "investing" in centralized systems.  I started this thread in the hope that it would prevent people from losing money.  It doesn't make me happy to see this occurring.

[vlight]

It seems BItshares is suffering a catastrophic collapse.  It has plunged in value over the last few days and fallen to #6.  I suspect this is due to multiple reasons.

Imo, the main cause of this is because Bitshares(TM), the company, is in fact a "company" in the truest sense of the word.  Look at how many "companies" fail in the first few years of operation.  The mass majority fail.  Now compare this to decentralized movements.  If Bitshares(TM), the company, fails, then the current Bitshares' blockchain becomes entirely worthless.  In comparison to a truly decentralized movement, there is no "company" that controls the blockchain and imo, this removes the inherent risk of the "company" failing and taking the blockchain down with it.

I don't bring up Bitshares losing its #5 marketcap spot to gloat, but instead to reinforce, imo, the risk of "investing" in centralized systems.  I started this thread in the hope that it would prevent people from losing money.  It doesn't make me happy to see this occurring.

And all these "truly decentralized movements" don't fail.. ever . Besides, the collapse is not catastrophic . It's just the whole crypto is in a bear market and all coins/assets suffer. BitShares got the largest hit, because it was overvalued the most, and relied on chinese market heavily.

How is BitShares more centralized than any other Bitcoin 2.0 project?

[StanLarimer]

We would like to  invite you to be the Guest of "Honor" at our next BitShares Skunk Hunt.

[DecentralizeEconomics]

We would like to  invite you to be the Guest of "Honor" at our next BitShares Skunk Hunt.

Hmm... A small group of instigators with pitchforks attempting to rally support for their cause... Clearly, this is some type of Communist rally.

I urge anyone who witnesses these traitors to immediately report them to the authorities!