Vod just left negative feedback for iCEBREAKER after he left Vod negative rating

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

iCEBREAKER recently left Vod the following feedback:

"Constantly posts lies about TECSHARE in an effort to have him removed from the default trust list. Honest discussion is one thing, but he just posts BS with absolutely no basis.

Not trustworthy."

(This is clearly mocking  the negative feedback Vod has left TECSHARE).

In response, Vod has left negative feedback for iCEBREAKER:

"Possibly hacked account.

Posted the following feedback on my account: "Constantly posts lies about TECSHARE in an effort to have him removed from the default trust list. Honest discussion is one thing, but he just posts BS with absolutely no basis. Not trustworthy."

TECSHARE isn't on the default trust list. Not sure why this user would be lying about me in this way."

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Vod, can you please explain how iCEBREAKER "lied" about you?

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[takagari]

Lol, what a child.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Hmm I'm going to take a wild guess here but probably because Vod hasn't posted any lies about Techshare and IS NOT trying to get him removed from the Default Trust since he was already removed.

Once again, you are missing the point entirely by reading a couple of words individually and literally.

Please re-read the thread, specially the 'This is clearly mocking  the negative feedback Vod has left TECSHARE' part. iCEBREAKER is expressing the absurdity of Vod's negative feedback by copying it and applying it to Vod.

Please also read http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/parody and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire first.

[Quickseller]

Hmmm, I would say this is probably not appropriate. He claims that it is a possibly hacked account, however his password was not changed in the last 30 days.

I think that Icebreaker's trust left for Vod is probably a misunderstanding of the entire situation, however he is entitled to his opinion about Vod's left feedback for TECHSHARE.

I think Vod should remove his trust for Icebreaker as this is more of an example of him trying to silence critics.

I would say this is somewhat of an example of leaving trust because of "trust abuse" and anyone who leaves those kinds of reports should not have any of their trust reports relied upon 

[takagari]

Hmmm, I would say this is probably not appropriate. He claims that it is a possibly hacked account, however his password was not changed in the last 30 days.

I think that Icebreaker's trust left for Vod is probably a misunderstanding of the entire situation, however he is entitled to his opinion about Vod's left feedback for TECHSHARE.

I think Vod should remove his trust for Icebreaker as this is more of an example of him trying to silence critics.

I would say this is somewhat of an example of leaving trust because of "trust abuse" and anyone who leaves those kinds of reports should not have any of their trust reports relied upon 

You've not changed yours in 30 days, so your password could be compromised.
Therefor shall we all leave negative feedback on your trust. You could very well be a hacked account :O

[redsn0w]

I don't know what is this , but let us wait the new improvement of theymos.  I understood that trust ratings are not moderated  ,so it is  not effective  open a thread here.

[TECSHARE]

I don't know what is this , but let us wait the new improvement of theymos.  I understood that trust ratings are not moderated  ,so it is  not effective  open a thread here.

...But default trust is moderated, and VODs actions here are relevant to his standing accusations of default trust abuse.

[Quickseller]

Looking at the feedback that icebreaker left it looks like it matches what Vod left on TECHSHARE exactly (with the exception of who is being discussed). I do find it strange that he would leave the exact same trust rating like that.

[hilariousandco]

Hmmm, I would say this is probably not appropriate. He claims that it is a possibly hacked account, however his password was not changed in the last 30 days.

I think Vod should remove his trust for Icebreaker as this is more of an example of him trying to silence critics.

I would say this is somewhat of an example of leaving trust because of "trust abuse" and anyone who leaves those kinds of reports should not have any of their trust reports relied upon 

Agreed. Vod isn't really helping the situation here and this is just going to add fuel to the fire and perpetuate this entire commotion.

I don't know what is this , but let us wait the new improvement of theymos.  I understood that trust ratings are not moderated  ,so it is  not effective  open a thread here.

...But default trust is moderated, and VODs actions here are relevant to his standing accusations of default trust abuse.

Default Trust is not moderated.

Your removal because by the three people that had you on their list for being untrustworthy does not indicate moderation.

Think about it, if they trusted you to act accordingly, you would still be there.


~BCX~

The Default trust list is moderated in the sense that theymos and those on it can remove and add people, but feedback left usually isn't. The trust list works by adding those who appear trustworthy and removing those that don't (or cannot handle the responsibility of being on there).

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Default Trust is not moderated.

Your removal because by the three people that had you on their list for being untrustworthy does not indicate moderation.

DefaultTrust is moderated. Feedback is not moderated.

This is the 5th time today you have misread a post by literally interpreting it, or interpreting it in some completely absurd way.

Looking at the feedback that icebreaker left it looks like it matches what Vod left on TECHSHARE exactly (with the exception of who is being discussed). I do find it strange that he would leave the exact same trust rating like that.

So yes, mocking the feedback Vod left TECShARE.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

I responded to the "mocking" statement earlier above.

Lying requires intent to mislead.

Making a statement that someone may interpret differently, is not lying when there is no intent to mislead.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Spoken like a lawyer LOL

That's because you choose to be disruptively pedantic instead of focusing on the point of this thread, which is this feedback being inappropriate.

[dogie]

I responded to the "mocking" statement earlier above.

Lying requires intent to mislead.

Making a statement that someone may interpret differently, is not lying when there is no intent to mislead.

Spoken like a lawyer LOL

~BCX~

Or, by negligence. If I have a duty to make my instructions clear (ie by saying the word fo-our and not four), its still my fault if its interpreted incorrectly. Anyway.... can people stop prodding the Vod please, someone's going to lose an arm sooner or later.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Anyway.... can people stop prodding the Vod please, someone's going to lose an arm sooner or later.

So you're okay with people being hit with negative trust if they criticize Vod in a meaningful way, for something that he should be criticized for?

[TECSHARE]

I responded to the "mocking" statement earlier above.

Lying requires intent to mislead.

Making a statement that someone may interpret differently, is not lying when there is no intent to mislead.

Spoken like a lawyer LOL

~BCX~

Or, by negligence. If I have a duty to make my instructions clear (ie by saying the word fo-our and not four), its still my fault if its interpreted incorrectly. Anyway.... can people stop prodding the Vod please, someone's going to lose an arm sooner or later.

Have you considered that maybe VOD is the one prodding too many people?

[iCEBREAKER]

Hmmm, I would say this is probably not appropriate. He claims that it is a possibly hacked account, however his password was not changed in the last 30 days.

I think that Icebreaker's trust left for Vod is probably a misunderstanding of the entire situation, however he is entitled to his opinion about Vod's left feedback for TECHSHARE.

I think Vod should remove his trust for Icebreaker as this is more of an example of him trying to silence critics.

I would say this is somewhat of an example of leaving trust because of "trust abuse" and anyone who leaves those kinds of reports should not have any of their trust reports relied upon 

My account has not been hacked.

I've been here longer than Vod.

This is clearly an abuse of his default trust, which isn't supposed to be used for petulant tit-for-tat retaliation.

[Beastlymac]

not that i am commenting on this situation but on the situation of trust as a whole. I think something needs to be done about trust that is clearly wrong and can be proven wrong. I think that this hinders the community moving forward and needs to be changed.

[Quickseller]

Hmmm, I would say this is probably not appropriate. He claims that it is a possibly hacked account, however his password was not changed in the last 30 days.

I think that Icebreaker's trust left for Vod is probably a misunderstanding of the entire situation, however he is entitled to his opinion about Vod's left feedback for TECHSHARE.

I think Vod should remove his trust for Icebreaker as this is more of an example of him trying to silence critics.

I would say this is somewhat of an example of leaving trust because of "trust abuse" and anyone who leaves those kinds of reports should not have any of their trust reports relied upon 

My account has not been hacked.

I've been here longer than Vod.

This is clearly an abuse of his default trust, which isn't supposed to be used for petulant tit-for-tat retaliation.

Like I said it is probably not appropiate. If you can provide a signed message from an address from an old unedited post then it would squash any hacking claim and if he wants to remain reputable then he will need to remove the trust. Although I do not think that should be necessary.

I do think this is essentially leaving trust because they are engaging in "trust abuse" and any trust left for this reason makes the person's trust left be unreliable

[iCEBREAKER]

Hmmm, I would say this is probably not appropriate. He claims that it is a possibly hacked account, however his password was not changed in the last 30 days.

I think that Icebreaker's trust left for Vod is probably a misunderstanding of the entire situation, however he is entitled to his opinion about Vod's left feedback for TECHSHARE.

I think Vod should remove his trust for Icebreaker as this is more of an example of him trying to silence critics.

I would say this is somewhat of an example of leaving trust because of "trust abuse" and anyone who leaves those kinds of reports should not have any of their trust reports relied upon 

My account has not been hacked.

I've been here longer than Vod.

This is clearly an abuse of his default trust, which isn't supposed to be used for petulant tit-for-tat retaliation.

Like I said it is probably not appropiate. If you can provide a signed message from an address from an old unedited post then it would squash any hacking claim and if he wants to remain reputable then he will need to remove the trust. Although I do not think that should be necessary.

I do think this is essentially leaving trust because they are engaging in "trust abuse" and any trust left for this reason makes the person's trust left be unreliable

Vod didn't make the refutable claim that my account was in fact hacked.  He used the slimey, non-refutable "possibly hacked account" wording instead.

Every account on this board is "possibly hacked."  Even if I signed an old address, he could still weasel around that by claiming my private key was also "possibly hacked."

Look at my recent posts; they are written with the same pompous bombast they always have been.   

Vod is just being a dick, not making an honest accusation that he could reasonably believe to be true.

[Quickseller]

I think the easiest solution would be a signed message. I agree that the trust should really not have ever been left.

It is up to you but whatever you do I would suggest not starting any kind of hate campaign.