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January 07, 2015, 09:36:10 PM
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While after reading the title you might think you could care less for my personal reasons I assure you if you think about buying hashing power from cryptomine.io you should keep reading.

I was recently approached by Carra23[1] via PM. We had a nice chat whether I wanted to join their signature campaign for cryptomine.io or not. I asked for a day to think about it and used it to dig into the company behind this. I am also aware that I am not the only person that was approached[2] and I dont think there is anything wrong with this. I am in no way discrediting Carra23. This is purely about cryptomine.io as a company.

The following will be somewhat sorted by topic.

### Post address ###

The homepage[3] lists

Code:
    Cryptomine.io
    20-22 Wenlock Road
    London, N1 7GU
    United Kingdom

as official address. Which is the same address as a company called Virtual Office[4] that basically sells addresses
and other services required for shell companies. One of their marketing texts[5] states:

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...a business anywhere in the world can get the full benefit of a central London address.

### domain ###

This section is pretty borring, sorry.

whois cryptomine.io returns:
Expiry 2015-10-11
Owner: Gabriel Sterne
and the address as above

they claim to be hosted in sweden[7]

### removed pictures ###

The humans according to the homepage working for/owning cryptomine.io are:

Sergey Yakovlev
Gabriel Sterne
Aaron Belfer
Eric Rosby
Andrew Lee

They all had pictures[6] next to them, which have been removed after people started digging.

### no pictures of mining hardware ###


Hi can you provide photo about your mining rig ?

Will gladly do so as soon as possible. At the present moment we are not permitted by our agreements with our financial partners to make anything public, cooling equipment, mining rigs, infrastructure or wallets. Our partners also frown upon us going public and offering cloud mining services, but making any part of the operation or technology public would put us in clear breach of contract.
This is why we are trying very hard to separate and become independent as soon as possible.

I estimate that we are going to be completely independent by the end of February and we will be able to post videos and images of our setups and asic boards. It will be worth the wait.

### finance ###

Cryptomine is listed on cryptostocks[8][9] they stopped paying dividends 3 months ago according to the rating (black[10]).
If I understand the page correctly they got 100 BTC here and paid 35 BTC in dividents. I am pretty sure their investors would like to see what was done with the BTC.

### electricity costs in germany ###

I am from germany, thus I know the following statement from their cryptostocks advertisement is bullshit.

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We are operating our ASIC miners in the ”Ruhrpott” area of western Germany. In this highly industrialized zone we obtained access to electricity at prices that are only available to industrial facilities, not to private consumers. We are effectively paying a fraction of the normal electricity costs.

The price for electricity is on the rise[11] due to several reasons which include political decisions. According to newspapers industries with high energy consumption start to produce their own energy to counter this. Thus german is in no way a good place to start running ASICs. Even if you have access to relatively cheap energy, its still high in comparison to other countries.

### 1JAURjs5obKhfhDVsUWHtcDpLufC6JXckf ###

The address 1JAURjs5obKhfhDVsUWHtcDpLufC6JXckf[12] apparently holds their budget as payout from mining[13][14] has been paid from this address as well as the funds for the signature campaign[15].

Maybe someone skilled in blockchain analysis can use this as a startingpoint to figure out if any of the coins have recently been mined.

### CRYPTOMINE SERV LTD 09267160 ###

Companies house[16] offers free information about companies, they only require you to create an account.
The only new things we learn from this is:
- they registered 16/10/2014 ~1 week prior looking for funds on cryptostocks
- they have not been charged (yet?)
- they have not supplied a nature of business
- ERIC ROSBY born 06/12/1967 ist listed as director with the allready known address.
- Statement of capital as of 16/10/2014: GBP 1

Most of this can also be found here[17]

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=122354
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=913725.0
[3] https://cryptomine.io/contact.php
[4] http://www.londonpresence.com/
[5] http://www.londonpresence.com/about-us/
[6] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=832448.msg9976632#msg9976632
[7] https://www.bahnhof.net/
[8] https://cryptostocks.com/securities/58
[9] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326826.0
[10] https://cryptostocks.com/rating
[11] see chart on pg. 15 within the pdf (international/english version) https://www.destatis.de/DE/Publikationen/Thematisch/Preise/Energiepreise/EnergyPriceTrends.html
[12] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1JAURjs5obKhfhDVsUWHtcDpLufC6JXckf
[13] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=832448.msg10025528#msg10025528
[14] https://blockchain.info/tx/25e919bf253a08cacdd13f58ccaca857779151940bca54a57561dd12466a318c
[15] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/6f3d073a6ae2b60829972f58ff1b9cadbd5a7efa8e9eda75b18f20cb4750ed20
[16] https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/companies-house
[17] https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/cryptomine-serv

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January 10, 2015, 08:43:54 PM
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This is the reason I resigned but Carra paid me. Smiley

They told, they will make their mining farm public by February. Didn't got any updates after that and recently I saw some users told that they couldn't get any payments last 2 days. I hope this hasn't turned to a scam after a few months but I think they will get good profits if they ran away now. Roll Eyes

BTW, +10. Nice investigation. Smiley

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January 10, 2015, 09:57:54 PM
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This is the reason I resigned but Carra paid me. Smiley

Yeah, I honestly dont think Carra is into this and is just another victim in their scheme.

They told, they will make their mining farm public by February. Didn't got any updates after that and recently I saw some users told that they couldn't get any payments last 2 days. I hope this hasn't turned to a scam after a few months but I think they will get good profits if they ran away now. Roll Eyes

Well, if they come up with a reasonable explanation for all the secrecy and smoke bombs. Pictures would be a start. I am certain someone from the german section would be willing to visit their farm to confirm their operations. The Ruhrgebiet has a population of more than 5 million people. There should be someone nearby.

BTW, +10. Nice investigation. Smiley

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January 10, 2015, 11:30:55 PM
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thats some details on why not joining a signature, but if I found the same info I would of just said oh well and sign up on another signature instead of going through great lengths to dig up all that info.

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January 11, 2015, 04:04:51 AM
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thats some details on why not joining a signature, but if I found the same info I would of just said oh well and sign up on another signature instead of going through great lengths to dig up all that info.

Some people have problem advertising scams and likely. And also, advertising Ponzis/HYIPs are illegal but that doesn't matter unless someone report it. Telling others to jump into the scam, IMHO, is bad and I am not doing as its against my own law*.

This diggings are based on Cryptomine cloud mining not on signature campaign. This diggings will definitely help others who want to earn some BTC ASAP using cloud mining.

* Please don't fill the thread asking about this, it is just some laws which I put for my own good. Wink

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January 11, 2015, 05:33:17 AM
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thats some details on why not joining a signature, but if I found the same info I would of just said oh well and sign up on another signature instead of going through great lengths to dig up all that info.



Its not like I usually do this. Its just that I was asked directly by Carra and while I like the way Carra does the campaign I also like the site I currently advertise for. To resolve this issue I needed more information. Once I had them, why not share them? Its all publicly available data. Well I had someone open an account at UK companies house, but its free and they helped me out of curiousity. It basically took me two hours and a phone call.

Another thing is that same as MZ my personal book of rules[1] might be more strict than that of others.


[1] there is no actual book.

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January 11, 2015, 07:48:10 PM
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Looks like the laundering starts.

Very interesting info about wallet cryptomine.io (1JAURjs5obKhfhDVsUWHtcDpLufC6JXckf)
Only one hour ago this wallet unfreeze and recieved all btc fom users, and after send all this to others wallet.
But it's operation was only ONE HOUR AGO, before wallet was inactive from 07-jan-15

P.S. I'm contacting with Roman Vašíček, it's a professional IT, and DON'T AUTHOR of Cryptomine.io - hi is investing too !

64.24 BTC go to 1LiYz [1]
which get fused into 178.83815499 on 1FsVc [2]
next step is [3] on a single confirmation and none of the coins have been used yet.

[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/76150c7b5e066224ab4ef159001596ca08b7520f179d3c3de78f22d4a370c329
[2] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/d9333fd064061fef992a1978bfb059951be6e7c3dba0269e7792efa40e0339af
[3] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/d7669457f2a697a7f1aab901bc7a3e5687dd00ad1d2a88669ec0effe30cfdd42

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