[ANNOUNCE] OpenPay - Entering Burn In, Shake Down & Alpha Test phase.

[ripper234]

I apologize for the delay in release.  A young couple who were close friends of mine died suddenly in a head on collision last Friday.  I've been in a state of shock.  They left behind 4 young girls.  The funeral will be this Friday after which I plan to put a whole new bundle of code into the git repo and we can start shaking it down for bugs.

My condolences, it's a shitty situation all around.

[Elwar]

Any new developments on this one?

[Deafboy]

My condolences, it's a shitty situation all around.

^
Any updates? I am super excited about OpenPay.

[isis]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for your patience!  So here's what's been happening on the OpenPay front.
My contract to develop this had some wording in it, standard legalese along the lines of "All work performed under contract remains our sole and exclusive property."  So we had to have their legal department rewrite the contract to allow for the release of the code and the designs.
Anyways, we have the approval, it'll get the stamp of approval tomorrow and there will be a rather significant commit sometime in the next 48 hours.

Now one caveat...
The merchant gateway application was designed to interface with Pincomm from ISD (now ACI) and we couldn't secure the rights to release that portion quickly enough.  Therefore I'm working on an integration pathway with QuickBooks POS and the Inuit Payment Network since they have a readily available and open API.

Switching the gateway over to QuickBooks POS is one of the things that triggered the need for a new contract since QuickBooks POS is actually a competing product (in the loosest sense of the term).

So keep your fingers crossed and stay tuned.

[isis]

For the record, there is no compensation for my time to develop the QuickBooks POS & Intuit Integration.  Therefore donations are gladly accepted

[rjk]

There was another thread in which someone was asking about an app for Radiant systems. Do you have any experience with those, or do you feel that it could be an option?

[isis]

There was another thread in which someone was asking about an app for Radiant systems. Do you have any experience with those, or do you feel that it could be an option?

Because of contractual obligations I cannot comment on that until after August 13th

[Elwar]

There was another thread in which someone was asking about an app for Radiant systems. Do you have any experience with those, or do you feel that it could be an option?

Because of contractual obligations I cannot comment on that until after August 13th

tick tick tick...

[streblo]

There was another thread in which someone was asking about an app for Radiant systems. Do you have any experience with those, or do you feel that it could be an option?

Because of contractual obligations I cannot comment on that until after August 13th

tick tick tick...

Tock! So is it Radiant systems?

[rjk]

Oh yes I remembered this.... It's the 13th, maybe today or tomorrow we can know?

[marcus_of_augustus]

The dude hasn't ben active on the forums since August 1st so I doubt we will hear anything

Big deal, he hasn't said anything for 13 whole days ... he's been more than generous with everything else he's put up, considering the possibilities of what this stuff could do for bitcoin.

Maybe you could put your spare code cycle time to good use and have a look at the github project? https://github.com/openpay/OpenPay

(your signature says you are looking for java work ... go at it, dude.)

[marcus_of_augustus]

The dude hasn't ben active on the forums since August 1st so I doubt we will hear anything

Big deal, he hasn't said anything for 13 whole days ... he's been more than generous with everything else he's put up, considering the possibilities of what this stuff could do for bitcoin.

Maybe you could put your spare code cycle time to good use and have a look at the github project? https://github.com/openpay/OpenPay

(your signature says you are looking for java work ... go at it, dude.)

I don't work for free pay me and I will work on it.

It's Open Source. If you don't work for free then maybe you should have to pay to complain .... or you could politely stfu?

[HostFat]

It's also august, some people usually have holidays during this time

[isis]

It's also august, some people usually have holidays during this time

it just doesn't look good when you set a date and you don't make any post that date, usually two things, either it wasn't good news and he didn't want to tell us, or he abandoned that project.

Nah I just had to wrap up some legal stuff and wait for an NDA to expire so I could start disclosing and discussing again.
All of that wrapped up yesterday.  Initial code drop of the new stuff is happening tonight. 
Sorry for the delay.

So for those of you who have been waiting for further updates here's what's going on...
OpenPay was commissioned by a company that has been a client of mine for a couple of years.  At first they were all for it, but when we started talking about setting up a new payment network and opening the source etc there was heavy opposition from upper management.  Mostly they were frightened that secret sauce recipes might accidentally be disclosed.

Eventually it was decided to just rescind the project and take it private.  This means I had to re-imburse the company for the time I billed them developing it.  Effectively I bought it out.  In the meantime certain sections of the code were determined to be touching on trade-secrets and those had to be re-implemented.

Finally what I ended up doing is doing a from scratch re-write of the initial re-write.
I apologize for being so tight lipped, it won't happen again.

Tonight you will see the merchant gateway module drop.  This will include a MtGox exchange connector, a balance check module, a module to connect the merchant to the OpenPay network and fallback signing module.
Tomorrow you will see an enrollment module and some pieces intended for service providers to connect an online wallet to OpenPay.

In the next couple of days you will start seeing modules for QuickBooks POS and other POS systems that will add OpenPay as a tender type.

Thanks again for your patience!
 

[isis]

There was another thread in which someone was asking about an app for Radiant systems. Do you have any experience with those, or do you feel that it could be an option?

Because of contractual obligations I cannot comment on that until after August 13th

tick tick tick...

Tock! So is it Radiant systems?

Yes there will be support for Radiant Systems.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Great. For me, this is probably the next most important project than bitcoin itself. Terminal whingers aside, any code that can do what you are proposing would be huge step forward, the enemy of function is perfection ... or something like that.

Big kudos to you "isis" for trucking along with OpenPay against the adversities. Too bad management couldn't get their heads out of the old ways of thinking to fathom the potential.

I'm doing a little investigation to see if I can bring some resources to bear on OpenPay.

[jim618]

Great work Isis !

Look forward to perusing your code.

What hardware will a developer need to get started ?

If you could recommend a card supplier and card reader that you know is reliable and usable on all of Win/ Mac / Linux that would be very useful. I am thinking EMV.

I imagine until we get an IIN it will have to be a testnet but I would like to get familiar with the kit.

[istar]

If successful will this be cheaper than buying a prepaid VISA with Bitcoins?

[Elwar]

If successful will this be cheaper than buying a prepaid VISA with Bitcoins?

Likely, though you would have to do a lot of the leg work yourself to get the cheapest rate (running your own bitcoin transaction server, setting up your card...).

More than likely there will be services out there that set things up for you and it will be close to the rate of a prepaid card.

[isis]

I'm having some problems with getting the code up on github.  I think it's a failed merge, I get the feeling I'm missing something simple and stupid.  Anyways the code is ready to drop.  If you can't wait to get it from github shoot me an IM and I'll send you a zip.  In the meantime I just need to figure out what I'm doing wrong with this commit.

Sincerely,
Isis

p.s. Thanks for all the props to all the supporters out there.  It keeps me motivated to keep working on the code.

p.p.s.  I'm setting up a test gateway on AWS, will post a link to it as soon as it's up.  The test gateway will allow you to perform real transactions without all the headache of setting up the entire system locally.  Since no information is actually stored at the gateway I don't see any sort of security issue putting it on AWS, but if anyone finds something let me know and I'll either fix it or take it down.