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January 12, 2015, 09:32:45 AM
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2014/nov/05/islam-muslims-hate-ideology-racism

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January 12, 2015, 10:03:08 AM
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Poverty is the only reason.
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January 12, 2015, 02:10:09 PM
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The Devil makes us do it. But he makes the Muslims do it more. The rest of us have decided not to be so much that way. That's the reason we don't become Muslims.

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January 12, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
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I do not think that islam religion hates people, it is not true  Wink
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January 12, 2015, 03:58:24 PM
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I do not think that islam religion hates people, it is not true  Wink

You are right. Islam doesn't hate anybody. Islam doesn't love anybody either. Why not? Because Islam is only words on paper. It is the Koran and other writings. The writings don't love or hate or do anything else.

People are the ones with the emotion. If you adhere to the parts of the Koran that suggest hatefulness, then it is you who have made the decision to do so.

By the way, you don't have to be a Muslim to do the hateful things that are suggested by certain sections of the Koran. There are hateful people all over the place who would never dream of becoming a Muslim.

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January 12, 2015, 05:37:56 PM
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Poverty is the only reason.


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January 12, 2015, 05:43:14 PM
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I do not think that islam religion hates people, it is not true  Wink

You are right. Islam doesn't hate anybody. Islam doesn't love anybody either. Why not? Because Islam is only words on paper. It is the Koran and other writings. The writings don't love or hate or do anything else.

People are the ones with the emotion. If you adhere to the parts of the Koran that suggest hatefulness, then it is you who have made the decision to do so.

By the way, you don't have to be a Muslim to do the hateful things that are suggested by certain sections of the Koran. There are hateful people all over the place who would never dream of becoming a Muslim.

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This 100%. People follow religions and get caught up in the foolishness from them when they want to apply it to their own lives. If you hate a group of people, there's a religion somewhere that says its OK to hate and then hurt them for being different.
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January 12, 2015, 07:17:16 PM
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I do not think that islam religion hates people, it is not true  Wink

You are right. Islam doesn't hate anybody. Islam doesn't love anybody either. Why not? Because Islam is only words on paper. It is the Koran and other writings. The writings don't love or hate or do anything else.

People are the ones with the emotion. If you adhere to the parts of the Koran that suggest hatefulness, then it is you who have made the decision to do so.

By the way, you don't have to be a Muslim to do the hateful things that are suggested by certain sections of the Koran. There are hateful people all over the place who would never dream of becoming a Muslim.

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This 100%. People follow religions and get caught up in the foolishness from them when they want to apply it to their own lives. If you hate a group of people, there's a religion somewhere that says its OK to hate and then hurt them for being different.

Jainism (/ˈdʒeɪnɪzəm/), traditionally known as Jain Shasan or Jain dharma (Sanskrit: जैन धर्म),[1] is an Indian religion that prescribes a path of ahimsa—nonviolence—towards all living beings, and emphasises spiritual interdependence and equality between all forms of life. Practitioners believe that nonviolence and self-control are the means by which they can obtain liberation. Asceticism is thus a major focus of the Jain faith. The three main principles of Jainism are Ahimsa (Nonviolence), Anekantavada (Non-Absolutism) and Aparigraha (Non-Possessiveness).

Jainism is one of the oldest religions in the world.[2] Jains traditionally trace their history through a succession of twenty-four propagators of their faith known as tirthankaras with Rishabh as the first and Mahāvīra as the last of the current era.

Jainism is a religious minority in India, with 4.2 million adherents, and there are immigrant communities in Belgium, Canada, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, and the United States.[3] The population of the Jain community across the world is around 6.1 million





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January 12, 2015, 07:57:38 PM
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In my eyes, the american goverment created terrorism Wink

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January 13, 2015, 03:19:01 AM
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In my eyes, the american goverment created terrorism Wink




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January 13, 2015, 06:51:09 AM
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Poverty is the only reason.

What poverty? Many Arab countries are extremely rich from oil.

Nations such as Saudi Arabia fuel the divide between Sunni and Shiite. They endorse terrorism such as ISIS. You will never hear anything bad about Saudi Arabia in America though because of their energy alliance.

All the hate and violence stems from greed.
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January 13, 2015, 11:08:03 AM
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Poverty is the only reason.

Poverty. Hmm. Poverty is the most usual excuse what liberals and leftists using for whitewashing the uncivilized scum what voting for them.
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January 13, 2015, 11:22:16 AM
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That sentence doesn't even make any fucking sense, lately the Guardian has become absolutely terrible in it's journalism Islam is the religion and Muslims are the noun for people who follow that religion. Whatever point they had went out the window with such a stupid line, it's like Ben Affleck claiming that hating muslims is racist, there's a reason they call hating Jews anti-semitism for example.

Also, the reason Islam is so violent is because they haven't moved on from the middle ages, if you look at the old testaments of other religions you'll see they've had to adapt themselves to society, these guys haven't and so they're getting a lot of shit for it. Add on a shit ton of brainwashing at a young age and this is why you have so many people ready to become martyrs for the prophet.

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But if we allow that the crimes of Stalin, or of Mao, were comparable to those of the transatlantic slave trade in ambition if not in duration, they are not excused in the slightest by saying that the most terrible atheist dictators were not very racist at all.

Ahhh, the old Stalin and Mao were Athiest argument when it fact they made state the religion, I need to stop reading this shit, the stupidity is pissing me off.
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January 13, 2015, 12:37:10 PM
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Seems like Snail2 is trying telling us that we vote for our government, and then our government that gets voted in, calls us scum.

It is kinda true. Just take a look at these two short Larken Rose videos to see what it is all about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXiLGaiUuRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjWR4_ekego

Of course, much of the info in these videos is common knowledge among the older Bitcoiners. Satoshi knew it, and that's why he worked so hard to make Bitcoin.

I think that the reason Muslims can be violent as they so often are follows this pattern:
1. You are captured by Muslim terrorist forces and held captive. Perhaps you are beaten;
2. The Muslims use "good cop, bad cop" type of brainwashing on you, making you feel that they are your friend, sort of, at the same time you are their captive;
3. Stockholm Syndrome sets it. You might even fall in love with one of your captors, and it is even possible that a captor falls in love with you. At any rate, you become buddies with them because they have spared your life and have even done reasonably good by you;
4. They promise you freedom if you convert to Islam, but you must be sincere, or you will be tortured to the extreme if you aren't, and are found out;
5. Perhaps you have in mind to escape later, but you agree with them just to get some freedom. They never give you enough freedom to escape; they continue their brainwashing; finally you convert for real so that they can give you enough freedom for escape, but you don't use it (a few people do use it);
6. You become active in the Islamic religion, and the terrorist cell that captured you in the first place.
7. You become one of the new terrorists, and the cycle is repeated.

Place a shark in a tank of water. Block off a section of the tank with a pane of glass, and fill it with goldfish. The shark sees the goldfish. He wants to eat the goldfish. He swims full speed at the goldfish. But the pane of glass stops him, even stuns him a little, even hurts his nose a bit. Leave the shark and the goldfish in this situation for many days. After a while, the shark has learned his limits. Remove the glass pane that divides the sections of the tank. Now the goldfish can swim unharmed all around the shark... most of the time. Conditioning. Brainwashing.

The Millitaries of the world are a bit like this with their soldiers. In the U.S., often a person becomes a soldier voluntarily. He submits to basic training. There his voluntary agreement to become a soldier is used to brainwash him into submission to his commanding officers. A few people die in basic because they are pushed beyond their physical limit. Those who don't die become reasonable BRAINWASHED soldiers. Many go on to become officers, and are trained in how to do the brainwashing without even realizing that it is brainwashing that they are doing. This brainwashing remains with them throughout their lives. They call it patriotic thinking. Try to convince a patriotic ex-marine that Bitcointalk.org has any good in it. Difficult. The brainwashing has told him it is foolishness.

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January 13, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
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A great followup to the above ^^ Larken Rose videos is Larken's " The Tiny Dot" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs .

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January 14, 2015, 01:49:53 AM
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But if we allow that the crimes of Stalin, or of Mao, were comparable to those of the transatlantic slave trade in ambition if not in duration, they are not excused in the slightest by saying that the most terrible atheist dictators were not very racist at all.

Ahhh, the old Stalin and Mao were Athiest argument when it fact they made state the religion, I need to stop reading this shit, the stupidity is pissing me off.

Neither is it true.  There's a long standing prejudice against "non Han" in China, that's a racial prejudice.  Also ridiculously strong prejudices against marrying non-Chinese, and riots over blacks from Africa in Bejing.  Look at Chinese prejudice against the Mongols for kicks and grins.  I could go on and on but I'll quit.
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January 14, 2015, 02:04:31 AM
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i not hate islam,
because, religion never taught a bad thing.

but, islamic people
but the people of Islam is guilty, because they like to terrorize innoncent people
ex : ISIS
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January 14, 2015, 02:07:12 AM
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All replies are very helpful to understand what people think of these issues.
awesome!
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January 14, 2015, 07:08:01 AM
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All replies are very helpful to understand what people think of these issues.
awesome!

Don't you simply love the Larken Rose videos?   Kiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXiLGaiUuRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjWR4_ekego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs

Governments don't.

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January 14, 2015, 08:00:48 AM
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religion does not teach people about a bad thing
but people themselves who make bad things happen
as a result of several factors such as greed, poverty, hatred, ignorance, and some other stuff
so we had to changed the mindset of our ownself to become better  Wink
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