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January 12, 2015, 08:45:32 PM
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Just a few moments ago, I got deauthed from my WiFi connection.

I open wicd to reconnect, and see another WiFi AP with the same ESSID as mine and even on the same channel as mine., and I'm like WTF!?
The faux AP is unsecured (mine uses WPA2), and has this MAC address: e8:4e:06:11:00:32

Should I be worried?
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January 12, 2015, 08:56:03 PM
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I don't see any reason why you should be worried. It must have been just a simple glitch. As long as you do not connect to the "imposter" WiFi access point, I do not see what could go wrong.
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January 12, 2015, 09:16:16 PM
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I tried to connect, but I can't get an IP address. I would've spoofed his DNS and bring up a Javascript chatbox Grin

And it's not a glitch, I'm sure of that. The MAC address is a whole another company, not having anything to do with my WiFi card in my computers, or with my router.

Update:

It now switched to another channel and changed its ESSID.
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January 12, 2015, 09:31:05 PM
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Probably someone setting up one of their cheap netgear extender things. You mirror the network you connect to, so he tried to connect it to your network and it probably didn't work due to invalid credentials.

Nothing to fear.

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January 12, 2015, 09:36:11 PM
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Relax. There is nothing to worry about.
Although this is one of the reasons for which Wi-fi shouldn't be set up if you have a lot of people/suspicious people near you.
I mean, there is no need for it. Just don't use useless devices such as tablets and you're fine.  Smiley

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January 12, 2015, 09:37:27 PM
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Relax. There is nothing to worry about.
Although this is one of the reasons for which Wi-fi shouldn't be set up if you have a lot of people/suspicious people near you.
I mean, there is no need for it. Just don't use useless devices such as tablets and you're fine.  Smiley

There is need for it. I don't have ethernet cables that are long enough for some stuff Cheesy
Plus, my network is pretty damn secure. It's just seeing stuff like this makes me paranoid. Who knows who's doing what.
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January 12, 2015, 09:42:54 PM
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There is need for it. I don't have ethernet cables that are long enough for some stuff Cheesy
Plus, my network is pretty damn secure. It's just seeing stuff like this makes me paranoid. Who knows who's doing what.
Trust me, home networks aren't secure enough. Even corporate ones are weak if there is someone trying to get into it with intent. Unless you have a ton of great hardware, such as firewalls which I doubt you need for your home.  Cheesy
I bought a 10m LAN cable for 7$.

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January 12, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
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There is need for it. I don't have ethernet cables that are long enough for some stuff Cheesy
Plus, my network is pretty damn secure. It's just seeing stuff like this makes me paranoid. Who knows who's doing what.
Trust me, home networks aren't secure enough. Even corporate ones are weak if there is someone trying to get into it with intent. Unless you have a ton of great hardware, such as firewalls which I doubt you need for your home.  Cheesy
I bought a 10m LAN cable for 7$.

dd-wrt and/or cisco hardware helps a lot Smiley
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January 12, 2015, 09:58:19 PM
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dd-wrt and/or cisco hardware helps a lot Smiley
The problem lies in the backdoors that are installed in hardware itself.

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January 12, 2015, 10:01:38 PM
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dd-wrt and/or cisco hardware helps a lot Smiley
The problem lies in the backdoors that are installed in hardware itself.

Meh, most people are inexperienced with obscure stuff like that, and the authorities (still Cheesy) don't have a reason to watch me.

Bonus security tip: using whitelists instead of blacklists for MAC addresses.
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January 12, 2015, 10:02:04 PM
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Just a few moments ago, I got deauthed from my WiFi connection.

I open wicd to reconnect, and see another WiFi AP with the same ESSID as mine and even on the same channel as mine., and I'm like WTF!?
The faux AP is unsecured (mine uses WPA2), and has this MAC address: e8:4e:06:11:00:32

Should I be worried?

It could be a cheapo wifi extender thats badly configured, but that does look really suspicious. You could try and locate it by moving around and checking the change in signal strength.

Bonus security tip: using whitelists instead of blacklists for MAC addresses.

Thats security by obscurity. MAC addresses are really easy to spoof. A MAC address whitelist gives no extra protection.

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January 12, 2015, 10:08:42 PM
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Bonus security tip: using whitelists instead of blacklists for MAC addresses.

Thats security by obscurity. MAC addresses are really easy to spoof. A MAC address whitelist gives no extra protection.

Not if you can't even see the clients that are connected to the AP.
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January 12, 2015, 10:09:50 PM
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Bonus security tip: using whitelists instead of blacklists for MAC addresses.

Thats security by obscurity. MAC addresses are really easy to spoof. A MAC address whitelist gives no extra protection.

Not if you can't even see the clients that are connected to the AP.

Normally you can. I'm not sure there is a way to prevent that?

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January 12, 2015, 10:22:21 PM
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I looked up the manufacturer for that essid:

http://coffer.com/mac_find/?string=e8%3A4e%3A06%3A11%3A00%3A32

Comes back with a company (EDUP International Co., Ltd.) that makes USB WiFi dongles, some of which are very high power (>1000mW).....

http://www.cccme.org.cn/shop/szedup/offer.aspx

I am a paranoid guy, but I'd be very paranoid if I was in your situation...

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January 12, 2015, 10:31:08 PM
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I looked up the manufacturer for that essid:

http://coffer.com/mac_find/?string=e8%3A4e%3A06%3A11%3A00%3A32

Comes back with a company (EDUP International Co., Ltd.) that makes USB WiFi dongles, some of which are very high power (>1000mW).....

http://www.cccme.org.cn/shop/szedup/offer.aspx

I am a paranoid guy, but I'd be very paranoid if I was in your situation...

I've done the research already. But yeah, this stuff is quite suspicious. Still, my network remains unhacked, and firewalls aren't reporting anything. Let's hope it stays that way.
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January 12, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
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I wish I knew what you were talking about haha, I know nothing about this technical stuff.
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January 13, 2015, 01:54:07 AM
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SSID "FBI VAN #1234" is a sign that you done wrong.

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January 13, 2015, 04:47:40 AM
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if FBI VAN near your home I would be Grin
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January 15, 2015, 03:44:18 AM
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Paranoid is just the opposite of naive imo, so nothing to worry about .
I prefer to be paranoid than naive personnaly
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