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before they take over the gambling section  Undecided
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January 13, 2015, 05:01:39 AM
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not much we can do about it...the fad will die down soon hopefully
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January 13, 2015, 05:16:48 AM
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not much we can do about it...the fad will die down soon hopefully

Exactly. Not much we can do unless admin decides to change the rules regarding them.

It's not even the number of ponzis but the constant bumping and spam they are putting on this board. That should at least constitute some bans for these operators.
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January 13, 2015, 05:17:22 AM
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not much we can do about it...the fad will die down soon hopefully

Why not? Add ponzis (or scams, to be more direct) like the Games and Rounds one. And ponzis should be allowed to create threads only on that board.
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January 13, 2015, 05:18:40 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

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January 13, 2015, 05:19:52 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
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January 13, 2015, 05:23:23 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.
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January 13, 2015, 05:26:21 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.

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January 13, 2015, 05:54:41 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.
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January 13, 2015, 06:02:20 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.

You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week.

Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions.
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January 13, 2015, 06:06:07 AM
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Shouldn't these ponzis be moved to games and rounds?
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January 13, 2015, 06:07:18 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.

You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week.

Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions.
But there is no reason for us to close shop. Even if there is one or two deposits in a round we still make profit. When the round ends, the final balance is the owners as we've stated on site and on the forum countless times.
And no, I result to the truth. Because I am literally spoon feeding you what can already be read on our thread, on our site or anywhere that has our name in it.
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January 13, 2015, 06:09:07 AM
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The Games And Rounds section isn't meant for that kind of stuff.

Ponzis don't really fall into "Spreadsheet games, forum-based games, and discussion of individual rounds/games on other sites.".

Besides, using a ponzi is considered gambling.

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January 13, 2015, 06:14:48 AM
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Just check the lounge.  Wink
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January 13, 2015, 06:23:55 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.

You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week.

Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions.
But there is no reason for us to close shop. Even if there is one or two deposits in a round we still make profit. When the round ends, the final balance is the owners as we've stated on site and on the forum countless times.
And no, I result to the truth. Because I am literally spoon feeding you what can already be read on our thread, on our site or anywhere that has our name in it.

Great. You write some stuff in your thread that I don't agree with. Is that understandable to you? Eventually, you won't even get those one or two deposits and you will be finished. That is the real truth. Given by your trust rating, I see that many people agree with me as well.
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January 13, 2015, 06:36:51 AM
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The Games And Rounds section isn't meant for that kind of stuff.

Ponzis don't really fall into "Spreadsheet games, forum-based games, and discussion of individual rounds/games on other sites.".

Besides, using a ponzi is considered gambling.

Some ponzis were already moved into there.

They are forum-based in that the transaction IDs and promotion activity are through this forum. They are also round based and have time limits.

All the threads in games and rounds fall under this description. They are all considered gambling. They are in a gambling subsection
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January 13, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.

You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week.

Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions.
But there is no reason for us to close shop. Even if there is one or two deposits in a round we still make profit. When the round ends, the final balance is the owners as we've stated on site and on the forum countless times.
And no, I result to the truth. Because I am literally spoon feeding you what can already be read on our thread, on our site or anywhere that has our name in it.

Great. You write some stuff in your thread that I don't agree with. Is that understandable to you? Eventually, you won't even get those one or two deposits and you will be finished. That is the real truth. Given by your trust rating, I see that many people agree with me as well.
We won't be finished a new round wi begin and if there is such in-activity then we can close doors, but that doesn't mean we'll scam?
Eventually a dice site will never have activity and they'll have to close doors, same deal.
Your arguments are complete and utter garbage.
People label our site a scam because many ponzi sites do in away with people money, not because they agree with your quite illogical arguments
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January 13, 2015, 06:42:07 AM
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Games  and rounds are designed for giveaways. The ponzis are asking users to report their experiences with their scam ponzi sites.

Games and rounds is for when you need to post an insubstantial post in order to get some kind of prize
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January 13, 2015, 06:42:49 AM
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If it has a website, it belongs in Gambling. If it does not have a website, it belongs in Games and Rounds.

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Well they could give ponzis their own secion.  They could also just name it less entertaining ways of losing your money.  But then gambling is only as entertaining for as long as you have money to lose.  Well then again they both have their own unique dramas.  Separation would still be good.

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