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May 21, 2011, 12:38:44 PM |
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Tomorrow will be 1 year from laszlo's post that he was able to exchange pizzas for bitcoins.
I want to have at least 1 bitcoin from that pizza storry.
So please, if you can trace your coins back to this transaction and read this post (and want to double your bitcoin),
PM me and we have a deal.
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May 21, 2011, 12:47:53 PM |
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This idea is amazing. But I think it's not really feasible, they have probably been thoroughly mixed with the rest of their little buddies  |
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May 21, 2011, 12:58:57 PM |
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.
saw something in another thread about how newly mined "pure" bitcoins with no transaction history can have a premium over other bitcoins due to their potential non-traceability.
Now someone valuing certain bitcoins more than others due to their transaction history.
how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations? i.e. one that was mined or spent a long time ago and then just kept since then?
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May 21, 2011, 01:00:17 PM |
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i believe it's doable. all transactions are linked, don't mind if i'll be 1000 transactions from that pizza, just want to have link to that transaction. that key would be dumped, removed from wallet and never spent. so much i love it. and pizza. and pipes. and moon. and zeppelins and light bulbs. i'll go and question blockxplorer to see how the bitcoins moved since then and estimate my chances to get my hands on them.
btw since bitcoins are divisible, i would pay 2 btc even for a 0.01 part of it. you know, collectible ...
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May 21, 2011, 01:02:44 PM |
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.
saw something in another thread about how newly mined "pure" bitcoins with no transaction history can have a premium over other bitcoins due to their potential non-traceability.
Now someone valuing certain bitcoins more than others due to their transaction history.
how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations? i.e. one that was mined or spent a long time ago and then just kept since then?
go tell numismats all over the world they're all morons |
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May 21, 2011, 01:04:46 PM |
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how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations?
in block 170 first transaction was recorded. satoshi -> hal. keeping in mind that newly found coins need to mature 100 blocks to be spendable, they started to test the protocol pretty early. but that transaction does not interest me. i would maybe donate few cents to see a graph how that coins were spent but not really interested in owning them |
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May 21, 2011, 01:05:13 PM |
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i believe it's doable. all transactions are linked, don't mind if i'll be 1000 transactions from that pizza, just want to have link to that transaction. that key would be dumped, removed from wallet and never spent. so much i love it. and pizza. and pipes. and moon. and zeppelins and light bulbs. i'll go and question blockxplorer to see how the bitcoins moved since then and estimate my chances to get my hands on them.
btw since bitcoins are divisible, i would pay 2 btc even for a 0.01 part of it. you know, collectible ...
well i mean that the 10k tx out might have been used as an in for other txes along with other ones. Let's say the payee then spent 20k coins using two 10k ins and creating a single 20k out, then those 20k have half the original pizza smell |
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May 21, 2011, 01:06:37 PM |
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.
saw something in another thread about how newly mined "pure" bitcoins with no transaction history can have a premium over other bitcoins due to their potential non-traceability.
Now someone valuing certain bitcoins more than others due to their transaction history.
how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations? i.e. one that was mined or spent a long time ago and then just kept since then?
go tell numismats all over the world they're all morons didn't mean to suggest that anyone was a moron. not at all. just the concept of bitcoin numismatics is amazing and fascinating. |
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May 21, 2011, 01:17:00 PM |
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i believe it's doable. all transactions are linked, don't mind if i'll be 1000 transactions from that pizza, just want to have link to that transaction. that key would be dumped, removed from wallet and never spent. so much i love it. and pizza. and pipes. and moon. and zeppelins and light bulbs. i'll go and question blockxplorer to see how the bitcoins moved since then and estimate my chances to get my hands on them.
btw since bitcoins are divisible, i would pay 2 btc even for a 0.01 part of it. you know, collectible ...
well i mean that the 10k tx out might have been used as an in for other txes along with other ones. Let's say the payee then spent 20k coins using two 10k ins and creating a single 20k out, then those 20k have half the original pizza smell hm, bitcoin meets homeopathy. i see the point now. but that makes looking for a bitcoin with anchovy even easier. let's hope the buyer does not sit on the coins and they are available. btw i can't search the blockexplorer by block number or date  any workaround for that? |
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May 21, 2011, 01:29:38 PM |
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didn't mean to suggest that anyone was a moron. not at all. just the concept of bitcoin numismatics is amazing and fascinating.
Yea I understand, that's also pretty much why I'm still mining solo, I want the delicious smell of a freshly printed pure money to appear in my house  |
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May 21, 2011, 02:00:00 PM |
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The obvious person to ask is jercos, who received the payment from laszlo. I can't recall seeing him on the forum, but he has been on IRC. Even if he has been spending that money, he's highly likely to have some change transactions from it.
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May 21, 2011, 03:36:00 PM |
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The obvious person to ask is ...
Thanks, i'm waiting for him there. Seems like biggest part of the problem solved. Thanks! |
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May 29, 2011, 01:32:43 AM |
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I currently have about 0.5 btc in my wallet.
If there's an easy way to trace them back let me know.
If you want to do the tracing, some of the links below have my address in them.
I'll sell all my pizza linked cents except one I'll hangon to.
I guess I could move them all to one address so its easy to locate all that's mine.
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May 29, 2011, 07:20:34 AM |
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I currently have about 0.5 btc in my wallet.
If there's an easy way to trace them back let me know.
If you want to do the tracing, some of the links below have my address in them.
I'll sell all my pizza linked cents except one I'll hangon to.
I guess I could move them all to one address so its easy to locate all that's mine.
And you know they're all pizza linked, how? |
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May 29, 2011, 04:55:13 PM |
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I currently have about 0.5 btc in my wallet.
If there's an easy way to trace them back let me know.
If you want to do the tracing, some of the links below have my address in them.
I'll sell all my pizza linked cents except one I'll hangon to.
I guess I could move them all to one address so its easy to locate all that's mine.
And you know they're all pizza linked, how? I dont know, guess i should edit the post to make it more clear that if they wete linked id sell them, and i dont know a good way to determin if they are. Theres a possiblity they are linked, as long as papa johns spent them. |
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May 29, 2011, 07:45:20 PM |
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I successfully located the original pizza transaction in block 57043. |
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May 31, 2011, 03:37:26 PM |
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.
This is no more than a coin collector looking for a coin with a certain serial number or print. |
If you think I've been helpful, toss me a few bitcoin - 1J2bbukPKFrwEfk4iHueKfLfFBXLSNGnTi
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June 02, 2011, 10:31:39 PM |
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this can make an interesting example of how bitcoin transfers may not be 100% anonymous all of the time.
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June 03, 2011, 06:37:55 AM |
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how on EARTH did you manage todo that... |
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June 03, 2011, 06:42:32 AM |
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how on EARTH did you manage todo that...
I sure as hell didn't do it by hand. I did it by making a python script, largely based on bitcointools |
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June 03, 2011, 06:52:46 AM |
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how on EARTH did you manage todo that...
I sure as hell didn't do it by hand. I did it by making a python script, largely based on bitcointoolsOh ok, sweet, care to share? |
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June 03, 2011, 07:10:14 AM |
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Oh ok, sweet, care to share?
Ok, copy all the files into the bitcointools folder: This one is a small modification to a bunch of functions found in bitcointools that makes my life easier: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28441300/deserialize_unfinishe.pyHere is the first program that I used to find out whether any of my unredeemed coins were actually descended from the pizza transaction: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28441300/bitcoin_descendants.pyNext, seeing that I had some at one of my addresses, I made another program to find the exact path: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28441300/bitcoin_descendants_pizza.pyIt's kind of sloppy (I wasn't planning on releasing it), so you'll have to change a few things to use it for a more general case (parent_block, parent_transaction, my address, the restriction for only transactions with 1 BTC or more). |
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June 03, 2011, 08:14:48 AM |
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Donate to my college Ramen fund! 18Keg2qxL65fYAmQ2ABmfibwuwtRCnTMqv
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June 05, 2011, 09:03:29 PM |
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* ptmhd back from holiday catching up with the bitcoin latest events thanks for the amazing work on block explorer and i'd be happy with diluted pizza bitcoins so any coins linkable are fine for my anchovy pub key project |
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June 06, 2011, 01:17:50 PM |
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Ok, just tell me what address to send it to.
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June 06, 2011, 03:46:08 PM |
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Ok, just tell me what address to send it to.
wow, you really got one? i'll create a new address for this one transaction to make sure it can be dumped from wallet safely and stored in my coin collection display i'm using bitcoin only from home, please allow few more hours for reply yay! |
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June 06, 2011, 11:10:55 PM |
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Just to be clear, whenever you're ready, I will send 1 BTC (or however much you want... the prices have been pretty crazy lately) from my account with the T-shirt coins (the ones at the end of that huge chain I posted earlier in the thread), to another one of my addresses (just so I can make sure that the chain looks good), and then I'll send from that address to yours. So, all you'll need to do is add two more transactions to make a grand total of 77 transactions from the legendary pizza to you. |
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June 07, 2011, 10:14:21 AM |
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whenever you're ready
ready I am, offer to exchange 1 : 2 still valid is was offline yesterday after leaving the office, no new wallet created the long chain from pizza to me does not disturb me those coins might not be XF or uncirculated but still very important for me i might be the first bitnumismatic eva ; ) thanks for the bump, please do not spend them all. i'm setting up a reminder for today edit: if i wanted moar, let's say 50, would you ask for 51 or for 100? i was lucky with zimbabwe dollar exchange so i have a few bitcoins i can put aside and never use |
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June 07, 2011, 06:22:38 PM |
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edit: if i wanted moar, let's say 50, would you ask for 51 or for 100?
i was lucky with zimbabwe dollar exchange so i have a few bitcoins i can put aside and never use
Well, I only have 3.5 to give, but if you wanted it, I suppose I'd be willing to trade for 4.5. |
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June 07, 2011, 11:31:04 PM |
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i wanted to post the adress here but then i might receive unrelated bitcoins if some funny guy would like to spoil the wallet with tasteless coins. pm sent and please reply where i should send you mine. once again thank you very much, a dream comming true |
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June 08, 2011, 07:51:15 PM |
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solved, issue closed. was great fun and now I have a piece of the legend
thank you all for contribution especially to unfinishe for a nice exchange
btw if you stumble over the coins from satoshi to hal from tx in block 170
please leavme me a message, i might be interested as well
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June 09, 2011, 12:27:52 AM |
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I look at block 170 all the time while I'm writing code to parse the block chain. If I come up with anything I'll let you know.
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June 09, 2011, 08:01:23 PM |
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so, I'm guessing block 170 http://blockexplorer.com/b/170 is the first transfer from one address to another? had a look at some of the previous blocks (but not all 170) and didn't see any transactions. |
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June 09, 2011, 08:37:39 PM |
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Is this going to turn into the bitcoin equivalent of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon?
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June 10, 2011, 12:51:28 AM |
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so, I'm guessing block 170 http://blockexplorer.com/b/170 is the first transfer from one address to another? had a look at some of the previous blocks (but not all 170) and didn't see any transactions. Yes, block 170 contains the first Bitcoin transaction (other than generation, of course). |
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June 10, 2011, 05:39:12 PM |
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true. mined coins must mature at least 100 blocks or so, to be spendable. it was not possible to send any coins in the first 100 blocks I look at block 170 all the time while I'm writing code to parse the block chain. If I come up with anything I'll let you know.
hal actually is active on the forum, i just might ask him directly. but if you stumble upon the coins, i welcome any info |
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June 10, 2011, 07:23:26 PM |
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seven degrees of bacon pizza?
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June 20, 2011, 06:15:23 PM |
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seven degrees of bacon pizza?
more like ordinary passion for coins. I doubt that people check their coins history and see if they are connected to pizza or first transaction |
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June 21, 2011, 01:51:58 PM |
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This is why we need clients to have address differentiation.
As it is, the client gives no option for spending specific coins, so if 1BTC is from pizza history and 199 are from other history, it will be difficult to pick the correct one.
Of course merging all 200 to one address could work, but then it gets watered down. . .
Client should give option of which received address BTC to send. . .
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June 21, 2011, 04:06:15 PM |
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you have a handful of options
- new wallet for new incomming coin to your collection
- wallet for the whole collection but you shall not spend from it & new address for new payment is a must
- keep accepting them as usual, spend them when the time will come
if you're skilled enough (and a collector), you can remove the private key of the address with the valuable coin
and -rescan to update the balance of your account. this is actually the bitcoin, the key to it is everything.
this way you should be safe not to spend it by chance (the client would not have the signing authority over the bitcoins)
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