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May 21, 2011, 12:38:44 PM
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Tomorrow will be 1 year from laszlo's post that he was able to exchange pizzas for bitcoins.
I want to have at least 1 bitcoin from that pizza storry.

So please, if you can trace your coins back to this transaction and read this post (and want to double your bitcoin),
PM me and we have a deal.

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May 21, 2011, 12:47:53 PM
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This idea is amazing. But I think it's not really feasible, they have probably been thoroughly mixed with the rest of their little buddies Smiley

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May 21, 2011, 12:58:57 PM
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.

saw something in another thread about how newly mined "pure" bitcoins with no transaction history can have a premium over other bitcoins due to their potential non-traceability.

Now someone valuing certain bitcoins more than others due to their transaction history.

how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations? i.e. one that was mined or spent a long time ago and then just kept since then?
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May 21, 2011, 01:00:17 PM
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i believe it's doable. all transactions are linked, don't mind if i'll be 1000 transactions from that pizza, just want to have link to that transaction. that key would be dumped, removed from wallet and never spent. so much i love it. and pizza. and pipes. and moon. and zeppelins and light bulbs. i'll go and question blockxplorer to see how the bitcoins moved since then and estimate my chances to get my hands on them.

btw since bitcoins are divisible, i would pay 2 btc even for a 0.01 part of it. you know, collectible ...

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May 21, 2011, 01:02:44 PM
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.

saw something in another thread about how newly mined "pure" bitcoins with no transaction history can have a premium over other bitcoins due to their potential non-traceability.

Now someone valuing certain bitcoins more than others due to their transaction history.

how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations? i.e. one that was mined or spent a long time ago and then just kept since then?
go tell numismats all over the world they're all morons Smiley

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May 21, 2011, 01:04:46 PM
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how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations?

in block 170 first transaction was recorded. satoshi -> hal.
keeping in mind that newly found coins need to mature 100 blocks to be spendable, they started to test the protocol pretty early. but that transaction does not interest me. i would maybe donate few cents to see a graph how that coins were spent but not really interested in owning them

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May 21, 2011, 01:05:13 PM
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i believe it's doable. all transactions are linked, don't mind if i'll be 1000 transactions from that pizza, just want to have link to that transaction. that key would be dumped, removed from wallet and never spent. so much i love it. and pizza. and pipes. and moon. and zeppelins and light bulbs. i'll go and question blockxplorer to see how the bitcoins moved since then and estimate my chances to get my hands on them.

btw since bitcoins are divisible, i would pay 2 btc even for a 0.01 part of it. you know, collectible ...

well i mean that the 10k tx out might have been used as an in for other txes along with other ones.
Let's say the payee then spent 20k coins using two 10k ins and creating a single 20k out, then those 20k have half the original pizza smell

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May 21, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.

saw something in another thread about how newly mined "pure" bitcoins with no transaction history can have a premium over other bitcoins due to their potential non-traceability.

Now someone valuing certain bitcoins more than others due to their transaction history.

how about the bitcoin with the most number of confirmations? i.e. one that was mined or spent a long time ago and then just kept since then?
go tell numismats all over the world they're all morons Smiley

didn't mean to suggest that anyone was a moron. not at all. just the concept of bitcoin numismatics is amazing and fascinating.
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May 21, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
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i believe it's doable. all transactions are linked, don't mind if i'll be 1000 transactions from that pizza, just want to have link to that transaction. that key would be dumped, removed from wallet and never spent. so much i love it. and pizza. and pipes. and moon. and zeppelins and light bulbs. i'll go and question blockxplorer to see how the bitcoins moved since then and estimate my chances to get my hands on them.

btw since bitcoins are divisible, i would pay 2 btc even for a 0.01 part of it. you know, collectible ...

well i mean that the 10k tx out might have been used as an in for other txes along with other ones.
Let's say the payee then spent 20k coins using two 10k ins and creating a single 20k out, then those 20k have half the original pizza smell

hm, bitcoin meets homeopathy. i see the point now. but that makes looking for a bitcoin with anchovy even easier.
let's hope the buyer does not sit on the coins and they are available.

btw i can't search the blockexplorer by block number or date Sad any workaround for that?

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May 21, 2011, 01:29:38 PM
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didn't mean to suggest that anyone was a moron. not at all. just the concept of bitcoin numismatics is amazing and fascinating.
Yea I understand, that's also pretty much why I'm still mining solo, I want the delicious smell of a freshly printed pure money to appear in my house Cheesy

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May 21, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
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The obvious person to ask is jercos, who received the payment from laszlo. I can't recall seeing him on the forum, but he has been on IRC. Even if he has been spending that money, he's highly likely to have some change transactions from it.
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May 21, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
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The obvious person to ask is ...
Thanks, i'm waiting for him there. Seems like biggest part of the problem solved. Thanks!

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May 29, 2011, 01:32:43 AM
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I currently have about 0.5 btc in my wallet.

If there's an easy way to trace them back let me know.

If you want to do the tracing, some of the links below have my address in them.

I'll sell all my pizza linked cents except one I'll hangon to.

I guess I could move them all to one address so its easy to locate all that's mine.

Set up the same thing..
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May 29, 2011, 07:20:34 AM
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I currently have about 0.5 btc in my wallet.

If there's an easy way to trace them back let me know.

If you want to do the tracing, some of the links below have my address in them.

I'll sell all my pizza linked cents except one I'll hangon to.

I guess I could move them all to one address so its easy to locate all that's mine.

And you know they're all pizza linked, how?
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May 29, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
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I currently have about 0.5 btc in my wallet.

If there's an easy way to trace them back let me know.

If you want to do the tracing, some of the links below have my address in them.

I'll sell all my pizza linked cents except one I'll hangon to.

I guess I could move them all to one address so its easy to locate all that's mine.

And you know they're all pizza linked, how?

I dont know, guess i should edit the post to make it more clear that if they wete linked id sell them, and i dont know a good way to determin if they are.  Theres a possiblity they are linked, as long as  papa johns spent them.

Set up the same thing..
http://bit.ly/btcrefs
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May 29, 2011, 07:45:20 PM
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I successfully located the original pizza transaction in block 57043.

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May 31, 2011, 03:37:26 PM
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amazing, it seems a bitcoin is a bitcoin is not true. some are more valuable than others.

This is no more than a coin collector looking for a coin with a certain serial number or print.

If you think I've been helpful, toss me a few bitcoin -  1J2bbukPKFrwEfk4iHueKfLfFBXLSNGnTi
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June 02, 2011, 09:41:30 PM
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I spent a couple minutes looking at transactions and was able to find 100 BTC at an address that came from the pizza transaction.

Original pizza transaction

which were sent to two different addresses

Tracking the larger transaction

In this transaction the 5777 BTC and the 4333 BTC were joined back together along with many others

Which was then split

and split again

and again

and again

and again (first block in 2011)

and again

and again

and again

leaving us with 100 BTC yet to be redeemed from this transaction


And since the 10000 pizza coins were included in a transaction with 11022 coins I guess you could say these 100 coins are 10000/11022 = 90.7276% "pure"  Cheesy

Now to find this wallet! I'm sure there's many other BTC that can be traced back too someone just needs to put in the work I suppose.
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this can make an interesting example of how bitcoin transfers may not be 100% anonymous all of the time. 
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I finally managed to figure it out! Grin

Here is a 75-long chain of transactions all the way from the pizza exchange to the coins I got for the "cryptographic keys" T-shirt at Square2Wear (which I still have). Obviously there's a lot of mixing due to multiple inputs, so it isn't strictly speaking "pure", but I hope that is forgivable. Are you ready?

http://blockexplorer.com/tx/a1075db55d416d3ca199f55b6084e2115b9345e16c5cf302fc80e9d5fbf5d48d#o0 <== Original Pizza Transaction
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/cca7507897abc89628f450e8b1e0c6fca4ec3f7b34cccf55f3f531c659ff4d79#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/9e744590d196b63d02a1dd7ef596fd6082286f84295d66da411a9ffebfdd1957#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/1d001840a1eccd2d3f0505a6b54d60812cf9295a08a1afc48871cf21ad1147f8#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/6ac97d586d1bbcc71d5d735bacd4535a7bbfb5cb074eb7b562d7a49c258a61fa#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/967e8c36a633d2451525f4a833c2fa7574f8f56932bc3d6e939c5a624cebf60d#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/fae1d55a6d983536a2a34515d2dcc67f92e4535f645a82eded11e6ee3c19399e#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/54d5f507d301a392f400c21b36eeba7f40446a45654de52f30cb291321d5d5e1#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/c4f51349d554340d683bc273d0d2ce05e36d53eb201e38fc860e60c1c439b1f1#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/046f4f443e80f691a1761c2fbf71d4a06cca94bf65e7e42465dce871f31ccfed#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f772f378ef4da61cf1c9c085ececf64a18228596f4f5a72566ac16991a52f707#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/3230867e41ea13c6084792fb7e08695c933c8ac4225edfaab1aa746cf7fcf015#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/500668aba996714527323dfbe7d57c50a688ce284b52b02f1316f418d3422d22#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/b69cd57181261cac7f894add1b08809796ad17335c96d708ae9093f8d59f4972#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/92d7049d20dc837bf57a7e30a0929f86c2676cdabb35022a62ca008aead3557c#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/251fd4a6cd5857abbd1b56713f0ba453b85af1e0757ae9ce5a3214ade944361f#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/7198a39670fe6cfd329104d0113045cbf66460c8e9bdb7235f7d6d9064353f41#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/82bf4360e8b8364587835791a836b8a0d0bce6d1cd2a8bca9b1bc3f2395daacf#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/dbd77823ddec2575bfc667d03b32f5b6a0b054f90bd33319e9661c616d894593#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/95e6e6712cb00443effa93041f00730ffdbb9772b3b9b38801d453521829cf52#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/2c075e3f7c27cdeb5ea321783a10f2907c081203325b62ed24afe1dbcdd1c4ce#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/b1b3b5cc900ad3080a7b82af8f4bd2555cf63dc571ed17b7a1ea2b760143c147#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/8a2facfb4451caa76466e0f71af18b3ef98bc4c6934f469a91956536fd5cb63c#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/07ffb3bb978e043e50ae3ae37826fa374fa91fb5bdeff72504a845211ea54db2#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/bdc390e4285a1912a5e15bff4696002f1427789150cdb839773165f57bfae4cb#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/5b54880ab2ccbc6288d2ac8f8ba9aca77e2dc2d5724825c280f510cf3a614732#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f0e5bc7f13b6d25824ee3b7abdcdba4053fdf39220332709d9ccfe5b92e7b824#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/e543ff0d21b0b9e0e939bab6c169e7525bc7f6686d1e33620c77391cabe1d8dd#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/988c68924bd95ac551b72c349099d752101cf9fc4327991de55f42a8ad6c7a45#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/4263803b5c8381b13584d3d09ec5a8068b8abf17ab4e8000ee43bac39754020e#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/1ceadf6c64370835db27b2e2c72138465b31de093ce5a224f15c59a92dffc891#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/775d9c66e350b0c6c1ac21f41f3db86a3554d762538539aa324e4543bf25f7d6#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/00b5017350b3e9e292cbda1631deff77144f273ae8cd17efef70607168d97234#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/dbe7131d4b3ae79f3970dc0c6b31e7b85392981167e8f28f9e06f8d92de83bd2#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/e9c517c03bc92076b8574b67f82459596154cc86de135ad42454e84889fbfcb7#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/1ad202c987919914245e9a4c440a8e5e6a5facd050337d2247ccec70ae0928ab#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/948e52394455e8e4f0844ab4d464b962b8c643cbb311d9c1f29a759cf9a850c4#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/831408bf9f4913847cc6eb6802842aa992187e154a1649bab6fbf36038c89f6b#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/ebf5e19b74db2a96cd97eb7ddbe0edc1e5924e6e1fa2cb7815e7485522ebcbe5#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/ab14ce0419bd775b158467dee138305d6882216e474a850b2442eca002b05153#o0
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http://blockexplorer.com/tx/29fced924f03205d8045b374febcf7d142bc2d8d11eb17eec585f9a377e1ab0b#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/71887816e604da04819bb6d09f6aa43f692cad68529e6bf00e39f587580c667d#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/41d54ae86bb4b67c71171e57acec414072e491b1e968496b7fbdc3701e932723#o1
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http://blockexplorer.com/tx/8ea436d71d500a25806c297f597428cd78a2479d296a128cfce095155261c0d6#o9
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/b722b28286f667b5093dd43a20c3497e866bbfc722167fa49cc5ba5fb32dcd61#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f6a4c21147164458704eb6edeae769e0612cd350a25ef6d4ca21d0da1be308f4#o0
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http://blockexplorer.com/tx/a521ea79c72d2bcdd271b9f5a83bd62e9be96be853ef7075058a9ef16e904f65#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f0bc8f93817f5efad538ea35558a14e66e2455f5125bade0e339c37ecc1e6bda#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/b7b6c132e7b201d90104c2db6e444694bfc50eb0953fe2c6c3d0e033712a348c#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f719c506d86a23606092f805189f8203733ceefebca361fe636d79ae784465cc#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/465e47410d55e45270114e3fe4b5d9197f9c115fabeb4f12bbb66a15f1e8dbbf#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/897a7407d2d58d5d3c9269c65403c8fb530f74787f45e9b46f63ec22860ffba9#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/66a610459eb27d08105639b68a26ec9275ce1d5723c177c3ba9f15f5d253efc2#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/3d61590c2b7b6f330ddd99b78884e136fefde11624378287edbe44188f637939#o0
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http://blockexplorer.com/tx/5bbc4f9a9088ea1501b26d6f6249d5a6739366ee0946c0301ed93a62a4b2ca59#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/eeb302ad6273ba1dc81b1085c6afa058075036510c121f01309acc38f2be9fbd#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/7dcc160a0f429ab3511fecff5cdd7db3b30c1ded7b9f680e8ae6b313caa7d1d3#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/fa04d7cc7ac03f06fc6c6710b90cd26ae64bb1bcdf5c297b4c7d1c8d7bd093fe#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/803de6605de761b92eeeb58f8f30862e73050c1ee7cb8586a7abc9925135d519#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/bc4e39854ddce83c68b6c6001c9a0e353ef0255779d4d5bac6dcf4cc673d9983#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/3004d72fbd7242d487cb657e78baafc68523061c82ae41fba46cfde325ef1297#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/963d4efe18f3b1a44939374998e5fcbafd3d05f1c30f1179da97f5de179ceb72#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/a34adcc72cc738c54fb46000ad4d5a590d43a36c7964ac90564776d2a213e08a#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/909730039a110c6a415abaaa98b81f2dfc137bc989018cb894f0fde2bc870992#o0
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/fdb12fec4141875bc08d794c0bf0a5ff01bf22f5322863797ba6ea8f4ba5b79b#o1
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/2a85b1092ae9c4eb9490af4098d394113a86a7373768462cb410ada2b450f6a7#o1 <== My coins

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