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January 16, 2015, 12:44:45 PM
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It already happen a lot already
So, that's why i never advise anyone to have BTC as investment

And maybe we'll see another bubble in few months

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January 16, 2015, 07:10:02 PM
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It already happen a lot already
So, that's why i never advise anyone to have BTC as investment

And maybe we'll see another bubble in few months
why are you on this forum if you dont want to have it and dont want others to have it
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January 16, 2015, 07:35:27 PM
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things will turn out great in the end. hold on to your bitcoins and you'll see. be patience.
Ok, but I'm out when it hits 125€ anyway. Not really eager to wait a few months/years first.. And if it revises which I still hope then, bitcoin can never die Smiley.

If you don't have a discipline to hold for at least 5 years, you should get out now for your own good. Bitcoin investment is more volatile, and riskier than stock investment.
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January 16, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
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I really dont get it. Why is the price falling?

Arent people buying bitcoins as before? All the people who said bitcoin will rise when more people accept it have been prooved wrong.

Obviously, we need more people to adopt bitcoins.
Businesses are adopting bitcoins, but they convert them to fiat as soon as they get bitcoins. This dumps extra bitcoins to the market. Miners are also pressured to dump bitcoins to the market to recoupe with their investment on mining rigs and maintenance which brings the price down further.
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January 16, 2015, 11:39:03 PM
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When I started to get into BTC in 2011, it went from $30 to $2..

That's like us going from $1,000 to like ~$90 on a % scale wise... So yeah, Much worse.. :p

it actually touched 1.98 which was scary as hell b/c everyone thought it broke resistance and was headed at least to 1.00

But wasn't the descent much faster? This one is taking more than one year...


History repeats itself, but not in the same exact way/timeline.

I wonder if this is a much more overstretched bubble, maybe we'll have a flat 2015, slow rise in 2016 and new ath in 2017. THAT would be a true test for hodlers!

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Hahaha, good to know Smiley Same here!
Would be fun to have hodling bets. Like one would show his address, and no movements could happen between X and Y dates. If you move, you lose the bet. A way to punish damned panic sellers Cheesy
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January 16, 2015, 11:48:49 PM
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things will turn out great in the end. hold on to your bitcoins and you'll see. be patience.
Ok, but I'm out when it hits 125€ anyway. Not really eager to wait a few months/years first.. And if it revises which I still hope then, bitcoin can never die Smiley.

Ok, so let's review what you've revealed about your trading strategy so far.  You bought near the all time high, and you're planning to sell at the bottom of the crash.  So basically your strategy is: buy high, sell low.  You're not a really great investor, are you?

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January 17, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
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When I started to get into BTC in 2011, it went from $30 to $2..

That's like us going from $1,000 to like ~$90 on a % scale wise... So yeah, Much worse.. :p

it actually touched 1.98 which was scary as hell b/c everyone thought it broke resistance and was headed at least to 1.00

But wasn't the descent much faster? This one is taking more than one year...


History repeats itself, but not in the same exact way/timeline.

I wonder if this is a much more overstretched bubble, maybe we'll have a flat 2015, slow rise in 2016 and new ath in 2017. THAT would be a true test for hodlers!

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Cheesy

Hahaha, good to know Smiley Same here!
Would be fun to have hodling bets. Like one would show his address, and no movements could happen between X and Y dates. If you move, you lose the bet. A way to punish damned panic sellers Cheesy

IMO, I think if they have not already left they wont leave.

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January 17, 2015, 01:21:14 AM
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with that amount of cash in hand, you should have bought slowly especially whenever there is a dip. But don't worry too much, even though current situation is quite fragile, anything could still happen that we cannot predict or foresee. Anyway, I wouldn't call investment go wasted. there is always a chance left.

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January 17, 2015, 06:05:31 AM
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I'd say it was worse at the end of 2011 by a fair bit.  This makes me suspicious that we've not yet seen the worst here.


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January 17, 2015, 08:00:20 PM
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It's been even worse before! Back in September 2011 the price basically crashed within days sooo freaking severely, I bet a lot of people almost turned to stone. We'll have to see if the recovery continues. If so, we may now have entered a bull market again, otherwise we will likely revisit $150 for a double-bottom or maybe double digits!

Back then I would think that people knew that they were "gambling" more with something so new though.  Perhaps it should have been a little less shocking then?  At least that is what I figured.  Even when I joined the "party" in 2013 I was aware of the volatility and even warned we would have some bubble cycles, and was aware that there were risks involved so it didn't really come as a shock.  Now, however, it feels like we should be more "secure" with all the new developments in place.   Undecided
Well now there is significantly more money involved in the bitcoin ecosystem so any major drop in price is going to have a much bigger economic impact then it did previously.

In 2011 there were no mining companies, the only people mining was hobbyist miners who had purchased a bunch of video cards that could potentially be resold. Today there are billions of dollars invested in various aspects of bitcoin.

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January 17, 2015, 09:11:37 PM
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Bitcoin had its chance boys and girls. Mass adoption didn't happen in the window given.

Why when the next hype around crypto occurs wouldn't money start pouring into any one of the 1000 bitcoin clones with active development?
Bitcoin's value will fall to its true value relative to all the alts. It's a race, a race to mass adoption and bitcoin had a headstart and it's fallen ass-over-tit.
Whatever attracts mass adoption it's not going to be BTC - overpiced, no real development, a sham 'foundation' that does fuck-all except funnel money, and a sour political histroy.

I should add that despite above I do weep for BTC. A first and true love in this space. But lettuce be reality.
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January 18, 2015, 11:05:58 PM
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things will turn out great in the end. hold on to your bitcoins and you'll see. be patience.
Ok, but I'm out when it hits 125€ anyway. Not really eager to wait a few months/years first.. And if it revises which I still hope then, bitcoin can never die Smiley.

Ok, so let's review what you've revealed about your trading strategy so far.  You bought near the all time high, and you're planning to sell at the bottom of the crash.  So basically your strategy is: buy high, sell low.  You're not a really great investor, are you?
It's more about selling in time before it gets to 10$ and Bitcoin doesn't recover. Last days were positive for the exchange rate but time will learn, I see a very little chance in recovering it to my buy-price for now.
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January 18, 2015, 11:25:22 PM
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things will turn out great in the end. hold on to your bitcoins and you'll see. be patience.
Ok, but I'm out when it hits 125€ anyway. Not really eager to wait a few months/years first.. And if it revises which I still hope then, bitcoin can never die Smiley.

Ok, so let's review what you've revealed about your trading strategy so far.  You bought near the all time high, and you're planning to sell at the bottom of the crash.  So basically your strategy is: buy high, sell low.  You're not a really great investor, are you?
It's more about selling in time before it gets to 10$ and Bitcoin doesn't recover. Last days were positive for the exchange rate but time will learn, I see a very little chance in recovering it to my buy-price for now.
Lol, don't hold your breath. There's no chance in hell this show is over and things are just getting started before the real bull market begins. While the bulls had this coming after a year of wrong calculations, this chatter is on borrowed time. We've either turned the corner or are on the verge of doing so, flat out.
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January 18, 2015, 11:30:30 PM
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things will turn out great in the end. hold on to your bitcoins and you'll see. be patience.
Ok, but I'm out when it hits 125€ anyway. Not really eager to wait a few months/years first.. And if it revises which I still hope then, bitcoin can never die Smiley.

Ok, so let's review what you've revealed about your trading strategy so far.  You bought near the all time high, and you're planning to sell at the bottom of the crash.  So basically your strategy is: buy high, sell low.  You're not a really great investor, are you?
It's more about selling in time before it gets to 10$ and Bitcoin doesn't recover. Last days were positive for the exchange rate but time will learn, I see a very little chance in recovering it to my buy-price for now.
Lol, don't hold your breath. There's no chance in hell this show is over and things are just getting started before the real bull market begins. While the bulls had this coming after a year of wrong calculations, this chatter is on borrowed time. We've either turned the corner or are on the verge of doing so, flat out.

Come on, this really is stereotypical permabull behavior. Just keep both options open, as any reasonable person would do. Cultism and anything that ends on 'ism' in general is for idiots that lost their way in life.
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January 26, 2015, 06:46:51 PM
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And got out at just a bit below 300$. After the Coinbase announcement it started dropping?? Seems so illogical to me, but economics, it's nothing for me.
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January 26, 2015, 06:59:03 PM
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this is not even a crash compared to the 2011 one, also this crash was really slow from 1200 to current value, not a big drop in short amount of time, which could lead in to some "uninterest" from the majority of people, instead of just pure manipulation
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January 26, 2015, 07:51:57 PM
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this is not even a crash compared to the 2011 one, also this crash was really slow from 1200 to current value, not a big drop in short amount of time, which could lead in to some "uninterest" from the majority of people, instead of just pure manipulation

Yes, and it might lead to a healthier bubble due to this!
Though, like food, healthy is often less exciting...
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January 26, 2015, 08:44:53 PM
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this is not even a crash compared to the 2011 one, also this crash was really slow from 1200 to current value, not a big drop in short amount of time, which could lead in to some "uninterest" from the majority of people, instead of just pure manipulation

Yeah, I don't think the 2011 crash was comparable at all.

Just in terms of sentiment, I remember the boards filled with complete despair and a good amount of fear. I would sum up the sentiment of the boards in this crash as disappointment with a sprinkle of fear.
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