Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins!

[Elwar]

Holy shit, this is insane:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da

KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police.

Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets.

Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act.

The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner.

“I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police.

Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites.

Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up.

Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it.

Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0

Up to 20btc available as of writing.
Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts

[CrackedLogic]

Holy shit, this is insane:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da

KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police.

Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets.

Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act.

The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner.

“I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police.

Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites.

Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up.

Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it.

Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0

Up to 20btc available as of writing.
Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts

Holy balls... This is why people think we're maniacs

[Lethn]

Forgive me for my attitude since I'm used to this kind of thing now, but oh great, now everyone is going to think we're all murderous psychopaths beacuse of this asshole

[michaeladair]

He just wanted to HODL!

[Elwar]

free market. anger phase. blood on streets.

It was likely in December. His posts ended on Dec. 10th.

From the looks of it, his roomate (Jesse) was on him to give him money for some reason. The dude comes on here to try to get a loan (either to just pay the guy or use it to make money via localbitcoins), nobody gives him the loan so his roomate tells him to sell the 20 coins he does have. Dude says no so Jesse ties him up, puts a gun to his head and forces him to cash it out.

Guy breaks free, bludgeons the guy with a hammer.


Or it could be something else entirely that happened.

[Lethn]

To be serious, this is precisely why we shouldn't be giving money to people who are being extremely aggressive about it they could easily be people like that guy, there are some genuine psychopaths out there.

[DarKSpectrE]

Sounds like most of the guys here would do the same in a heartbeat if they were given such an opportunity.

[Lethn]

Sounds like most of the guys here would do the same in a heartbeat if they were given such an opportunity.

Fuck off.

[floggitexx]

1. $2750 rent per month for one-room apartment in Queens??

2. 29 year old "lawyer" living with an 18 y/o in a one-room apartment? Sound like a man-boy love thing.

[thresher]

You guys aren't getting the big picture, self defense in the lovely state of ny, and they want to prosecute him for murder? 
Hey you escaped your captors and did what you had to to survive, sorry we are putting you in jail for life.  Next time why don't you just lay down and die.

.....Welcome to the progressive new pussy world 

[floggitexx]

You guys aren't getting the big picture, self defense in the lovely state of ny, and they want to prosecute him for murder?  
Hey you escaped your captors and did what you had to to survive, sorry we are putting you in jail for life.  Next time why don't you just lay down and die.

.....Welcome to the progressive new pussy world  

Doesn't sound like self-defense to me, not even in Redneckistan.

“I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,”

Dude #1 walks into kitchen, grabs hammer, goes back to the living room and beats dude #2 to death.
It's not like dude #1 pulled the hammer out of his waistband to defend himself.

[floggitexx]

 "A police source told the Daily News Smith and Copobianco  were fighting over drugs, specifically heroin."

So it was the Bitcoin or the heroin that made them go loco?

[elasticband]

I wonder if the price drops had anything to do with why one of them wanted to liquidate their holdings? the pitfalls of multisig? If you want out you may have to tie your partner up and force him at gun point.....

[thresher]

You guys aren't getting the big picture, self defense in the lovely state of ny, and they want to prosecute him for murder? 
Hey you escaped your captors and did what you had to to survive, sorry we are putting you in jail for life.  Next time why don't you just lay down and die.

.....Welcome to the progressive new pussy world 

Doesn't sound like self-defense to me, not even in Redneckistan.

“I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,”

Dude #1 walks into kitchen, grabs hammer, goes back to the living room and beats dude #2 to death.
It's not like dude #1 pulled the hammer out of his waistband to defend himself.

What are you going to do when someone comes into your home, ties you up and attempts to kill you?  When you escape do you think you are jsut going to waltz out of the apartment?  Do you think the guy will not try to kill you again?  DO you have any idea the fear, adrenaline, and emotions that are running through your head during an incident such as that?   

Besides all of that it is an apartment.  Walking into the kitchen could have been the back room, and the guy could have been by the front door prevent his escape, or maybe he didn't want to get chased and shot in the back. 

Then again your probably a person would advise a woman to get raped as opposed to fighting back, because hey you could get hurt more.  What if the woman being raped picked up a knife after the rapist was done and killed him.  Would you charge her for murder and possession of a weapon? 

[coa032]

This means despair phase, blood on the streets haha. Time to buy more cheap bitcoins.

[Wendigo]

He was trying to be an extra in the Wolf of Wall Street apparently... Jokes aside there must have been some serious reason for this to have happened.
Money is bad for your health figuratively and literally.

[floggitexx]

Then again your probably a person would advise a woman to get raped as opposed to fighting back, because hey you could get hurt more.  What if the woman being raped picked up a knife after the rapist was done and killed him.  Would you charge her for murder and possession of a weapon?  

Yeah, thats voluntary manslaughter if the women kills the dude AFTERWARDS.

"Voluntary manslaughter is commonly defined as an intentional killing in which the offender had no prior intent to kill, such as a killing that occurs in the "heat of passion." The circumstances leading to the killing must be the kind that would cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed; otherwise, the killing may be charged as a first-degree or second-degree murder. - See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/voluntary-manslaughter-overview.html#sthash.42ZjdBGr.dpuf "

[Wendigo]

Okay then to not get killed and sued for murder instead everyone needs to go out and buy a taser gun or some pepper spray obviously.

[Elwar]

Ya, so it was a lot more than just about Bitcoin, drugs and a relationship were probably the main contributors.

As for the hammer, ya it was probably part of a bigger fight. The fact that it came to the guy holding him at gunpoint to sell his bitcoins sounds like they had a lot of fights over money.

Though if they did drugs...I would think they would want to keep their money in bitcoins so they can buy from Silk Road.

[jacktheking]

I cant believe someone acutally tied someone for Bitcoin. I cant believe someone murdered someone because of a conflict related to Bitcoin.

Also, he is protecting himself.. why is the court charging him so much?