Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins!

[Wendigo]

I cant believe someone acutally tied someone for Bitcoin. I cant believe someone murdered someone because of a conflict related to Bitcoin.

Also, he is protecting himself.. why is the court charging him so much?

The judge probably wants all of his bitcoin stash in charges 

[floggitexx]

They seem seemed to be some nice gentlemen of Bitcoin:

https://i.imgur.com/GusmJfo.png

[pawel7777]

Then again your probably a person would advise a woman to get raped as opposed to fighting back, because hey you could get hurt more.  What if the woman being raped picked up a knife after the rapist was done and killed him.  Would you charge her for murder and possession of a weapon?  

Yeah, thats voluntary manslaughter if the women kills the dude AFTERWARDS.

"Voluntary manslaughter is commonly defined as an intentional killing in which the offender had no prior intent to kill, such as a killing that occurs in the "heat of passion." The circumstances leading to the killing must be the kind that would cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed; otherwise, the killing may be charged as a first-degree or second-degree murder. - See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/voluntary-manslaughter-overview.html#sthash.42ZjdBGr.dpuf "

Yes, but they still intend to charge him of murder, not manslaughter.

The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder

[Jamie_Boulder]

Over 20 BTC...despicable.

[BaselessBitcoin]

Well I hope their families find some peace.

[biscotaste]

Its only money. If you can't afford to lose it, you should not be playing in the market.

[Blinken]

A hammer is a tool, not a weapon.

[Gleb Gamow]

free market. anger phase. blood on streets.

It was likely in December. His posts ended on Dec. 10th.

From the looks of it, his roomate (Jesse) was on him to give him money for some reason. The dude comes on here to try to get a loan (either to just pay the guy or use it to make money via localbitcoins), nobody gives him the loan so his roomate tells him to sell the 20 coins he does have. Dude says no so Jesse ties him up, puts a gun to his head and forces him to cash it out.

Guy breaks free, bludgeons the guy with a hammer.


Or it could be something else entirely that happened.

Heroin and gay sex comes to mind. http://www.coloradonewsday.com/news/regional/91447-new-york-lawyer-with-a-heroin-habit-jesse-smith-bludgeoned-to-death-after-row-over-drugs.html

[SAYNOTOPONZI]

nasty.

[btbrae]

He just wanted to HODL!

Not laughing at the dead, but this made me chuckle haha     

Drugs and money... both of these things cause people to behave like human evolution never happened. 

[Jammalan the Prophet]

A hammer is a tool, not a weapon.

So he just "tooled" him , right?
Wanted to turn him into a leather armchair?

[Gleb Gamow]

A successful lawyer and a heroin addict? Did BFL just lose its lead counsel?

[Flashman]

A hammer is a tool, not a weapon.

Yah, that disturbs me, if that's what the weapon charge was based on.

[floggitexx]

A hammer is a tool, not a weapon.

Unless used as a weapon.

[thompete]

Holy shit, this is insane:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da

KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police.

Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets.

Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act.

The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner.

“I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police.

Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites.

Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up.

Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it.

Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0

Up to 20btc available as of writing.
Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts

Wow that is some crazy shit. Sad to hear that.

[juju]

Ya, so it was a lot more than just about Bitcoin, drugs and a relationship were probably the main contributors.

As for the hammer, ya it was probably part of a bigger fight. The fact that it came to the guy holding him at gunpoint to sell his bitcoins sounds like they had a lot of fights over money.

Though if they did drugs...I would think they would want to keep their money in bitcoins so they can buy from Silk Road.

Pretty sad story, I recall reading somewhere recently that psychologically, Losses are twice as emotionally significant compared to gains. Probably one of the two lost faith in the technology and wanted out

[RodeoX]

He does not have a prayer at arguing this was self defense. He went and got a weapon then returned and murdered his roommate. I don't think NY even has the castle doctrine. That means even if someone is in his home trying to kill him, he is obligated to try running away and not fight.  He's a murderer and his life is over.
 

[bassclef]

Holy shit! Bottom confirmed.

[cakebet]

yup

I cant believe someone acutally tied someone for Bitcoin. I cant believe someone murdered someone because of a conflict related to Bitcoin.

Also, he is protecting himself.. why is the court charging him so much?

The judge probably wants all of his bitcoin stash in charges 

[SAYNOTOPONZI]

It's normal in America.