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January 17, 2015, 12:32:10 PM
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Question about cloud mining :

If they have the spare capacity... Why aren't *they* mining with it? Why do they want to "share" the profit? Smiley

Clearly, it's more profitable for them to "rent" you the capacity than to mine themselves. So how can YOU achieve ANY profit?
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January 17, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
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I agree with you.
I was gonna ask the same question.
But the thing is that many people buy it...
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January 17, 2015, 01:57:45 PM
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Question about cloud mining :

If they have the spare capacity... Why aren't *they* mining with it? Why do they want to "share" the profit? Smiley

Clearly, it's more profitable for them to "rent" you the capacity than to mine themselves. So how can YOU achieve ANY profit?

There are reasons why legitimate mining operations would want to offer cloudmining.

For example, say a miner costs 1 btc and will produce 1.5 btc over the next 6 months.

A cloudmining company could offer the miner for 1.25 btc (for immediate profit), reinvest in hardware, sell new hardware for 1.25 btc. Rinse and repeat.

Cloudmining is like selling hardware but instead of shipping it, the company hosts it. That way people can have access to cheap industrial electricity rates.

With that said, ~95% of existing cloudmining companies are likely ponzis.
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January 17, 2015, 06:49:04 PM
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I agree with you.
I was gonna ask the same question.
But the thing is that many people buy it...

well, this is not a problem that these are ponzies. many people like to play...it's ok. you can "bet" some money and it is possible to earn something if you are in the first ones who "play". the last ones will always lose. Smiley it's the ponzi rule.

the problem is when these so called cloud mining "companies" are advertising as being "corporation" with huge data centers. At least, they have to admit what they really are and I am sure many people will still play Smiley

Look some HYIPs (ponzi) who admit what they are and they have tons of clients Smiley

http://finefxgt.net/home.php

https://phenixpro.com/index.php

https://trend-og.com/
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January 18, 2015, 05:49:56 PM
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Not all cloud mining are ponzis.

Some received more likely legit avaliation by the cloudmining risk assessment topic, like BIT-x and others

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0
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January 18, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
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there is a legit cloud
Example : hashnest
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January 18, 2015, 06:12:01 PM
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there is a legit cloud
Example : hashnest
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all the ponzies are paying for a while and the people are earning. i know many people who earned a lot of money from HYIPs . not with cloud mining but with "normal" HYIPs like similars to the ones from above.

BUT these clould mining MUST admit what they are, that's all Smiley

hashnest = HYIP (ponzi)...
Bit-x = HYIP (ponzi)
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January 18, 2015, 07:20:36 PM
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hashlet is a form of ponzi...
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January 19, 2015, 09:41:39 AM
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hashlet is a form of ponzi...

for me, hashnest isnt a ponzi
maybe you are right, maybe i am wrong
but i trust them..

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January 19, 2015, 10:32:16 AM
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Not all cloud mining is a ponzi.

For example, this seems legit:



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January 19, 2015, 10:47:21 AM
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maybe it's not ponzi but 10.000 dolar is too high for mining invest
i dont suggest you to do this Smiley
it has high risk..

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January 19, 2015, 02:27:25 PM
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Question about cloud mining :

If they have the spare capacity... Why aren't *they* mining with it? Why do they want to "share" the profit? Smiley

Clearly, it's more profitable for them to "rent" you the capacity than to mine themselves. So how can YOU achieve ANY profit?

Some cloud mining companies are shady but they want to get some BTC to buy more hardware.

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January 19, 2015, 03:41:17 PM
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Cloud mining is more of a reverse loan, or a bond. Say you buy 1gh/s for 20 cents. You then enter a contract to get paid .5% of that 20 cents a day for however long the contract lasts, as of late the trend seems to be "unlimited hosting" (yeah right). They don't need to be ponzi schemes. They're paying you back with your own money while they keep the rest and put it in a stock portfolio, probably dividends. So, they take 10 cents, put it in their portfolio and then over the course of 3 months pay you with the 10 cents they set aside for you to get paid back while earning money on your capital. How they choose to earn it is up to their risk. Some simply just set aside the 50% and then pocket the other 50% to have nice vacations and buy cars etc. though.
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January 19, 2015, 03:44:45 PM
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hashlet is a form of ponzi...

Are you referring to Hashnest or the Hashlet product from Gaw miner's.

At least with Hashnest you know they have hardware since bitmain owns them.

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January 20, 2015, 01:15:06 AM
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hashlet is a form of ponzi...

Are you referring to Hashnest or the Hashlet product from Gaw miner's.

At least with Hashnest you know they have hardware since bitmain owns them.
You could say the same about hashlets, they are sold by a a hardware reseller so they must have it Wink

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January 20, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
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hashlet is a form of ponzi...

Are you referring to Hashnest or the Hashlet product from Gaw miner's.

At least with Hashnest you know they have hardware since bitmain owns them.

only gaw has been selling hashlets Smiley
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