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January 18, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
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I have been doing some digging and trying to find where Satoshi's alleged 1 million BTC are. I can't find anyone who can point me in the right direction, can anyone here help?

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January 18, 2015, 02:50:00 PM
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I have been doing some digging and trying to find where Satoshi's alleged 1 million BTC are. I can't find anyone who can point me in the right direction, can anyone here help?

I don't think it will be possible for anyone to find it out, as even in the rich list, the addies with the max BTC amount that you will find won't be more than 160,000...

References: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html   &   http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

It's not possible for anyone to find out Satoshi's address, as he's only the one, who created Bitcoin, for the purpose of Anonymity... Wink

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January 18, 2015, 02:51:01 PM
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I have been doing some digging and trying to find where Satoshi's alleged 1 million BTC are. I can't find anyone who can point me in the right direction, can anyone here help?

I don't think it will be possible for you to find it out, as even in the rich list, the addies with the max BTC amount that you will find won't be more than 160,000...

References: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html   &   http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

It's not possible for anyone to find out Satoshi's address, as he's only the one, who created Bitcoin, for the purpose of Anonymity... Wink
So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature

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January 18, 2015, 02:55:42 PM
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So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature
Sure. It's pretty clear which addresses belong to him. If one of those coins are transferred to
an exchange deposit address (or, in fact, to any other address), this will be the hottest topic
here and on reddit and everywhere within minutes.
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January 18, 2015, 02:56:51 PM
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So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature
Sure. It's pretty clear which addresses belong to him. If one of those coins are transferred to
an exchange deposit address (or, in fact, to any other address), this will be the hottest topic
here and on reddit and everywhere within minutes.
Can you point me to any of these addresses? Purely for research I should add

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January 18, 2015, 02:59:49 PM
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So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature
Sure. It's pretty clear which addresses belong to him. If one of those coins are transferred to
an exchange deposit address (or, in fact, to any other address), this will be the hottest topic
here and on reddit and everywhere within minutes.
Can you point me to any of these addresses? Purely for research I should add
Here are the first 5 blocks:

https://blockchain.info/address/12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX
https://blockchain.info/address/1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1
https://blockchain.info/address/1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR
https://blockchain.info/address/15ubicBBWFnvoZLT7GiU2qxjRaKJPdkDMG
https://blockchain.info/address/1JfbZRwdDHKZmuiZgYArJZhcuuzuw2HuMu
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January 18, 2015, 03:06:04 PM
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So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature
Sure. It's pretty clear which addresses belong to him. If one of those coins are transferred to
an exchange deposit address (or, in fact, to any other address), this will be the hottest topic
here and on reddit and everywhere within minutes.
Can you point me to any of these addresses? Purely for research I should add
Here are the first 5 blocks:

https://blockchain.info/address/12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX
https://blockchain.info/address/1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1
https://blockchain.info/address/1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR
https://blockchain.info/address/15ubicBBWFnvoZLT7GiU2qxjRaKJPdkDMG
https://blockchain.info/address/1JfbZRwdDHKZmuiZgYArJZhcuuzuw2HuMu

That is a start, 250 down, 999,750 to go. Is there anyway I can easily track down blocks created mined in chronological order?

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January 18, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
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Among the first block rewards, the ones belonging to satoshi can be characterized
by their particular nonce-values. Maybe this helps:
https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/
(The emphasize is different, but what you want is extractable.)
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January 18, 2015, 03:11:29 PM
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That is a start, 250 down, 999,750 to go. Is there anyway I can easily track down blocks created mined in chronological order?

You can go to blockchain.info and enter the block height (starting from 1) since it is clear that only he was mining at the very beginning.

Personally I would write a program to do this and query against my own bitcoind.
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January 18, 2015, 03:14:32 PM
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That is a start, 250 down, 999,750 to go. Is there anyway I can easily track down blocks created mined in chronological order?

You can go to blockchain.info and enter the block height (starting from 1) since it is clear that only he was mining at the very beginning.

Personally I would write a program to do this.
I am a total noob at searching the blockchain. How can I enter the block height on the blockchain?

After if i was to write a script to assemble information then would you be able to help?

Not expecting you to do the work for me, just check the code I write

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January 18, 2015, 03:16:01 PM
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Among the first block rewards, the ones belonging to satoshi can be characterized
by their particular nonce-values. Maybe this helps:
https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/
(The emphasize is different, but what you want is extractable.)
Thanks for the pointer Smiley . Interesting read.

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January 18, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
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I am a total noob at searching the blockchain. How can I enter the block height on the blockchain?

After if i was to write a script to assemble information then would you be able to help?

Not expecting you to do the work for me, just check the code I write

https://blockchain.info/block-height/2

Just put the number of the height you want... (Here: 2)

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January 18, 2015, 03:18:52 PM
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I am a total noob at searching the blockchain. How can I enter the block height on the blockchain?

After if i was to write a script to assemble information then would you be able to help?

Not expecting you to do the work for me, just check the code I write

https://blockchain.info/block-height/2

Just put the number of the height you want... (Here: 2)
Thank you.

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January 18, 2015, 06:08:57 PM
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So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature
Sure. It's pretty clear which addresses belong to him. If one of those coins are transferred to
an exchange deposit address (or, in fact, to any other address), this will be the hottest topic
here and on reddit and everywhere within minutes.
Can you point me to any of these addresses? Purely for research I should add
Here are the first 5 blocks:

https://blockchain.info/address/12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX
https://blockchain.info/address/1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1
https://blockchain.info/address/1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR
https://blockchain.info/address/15ubicBBWFnvoZLT7GiU2qxjRaKJPdkDMG
https://blockchain.info/address/1JfbZRwdDHKZmuiZgYArJZhcuuzuw2HuMu


There is a 99% that's it him I guess but why & why in the world he never touched his BTC if it's his or even anyone else BTC Shocked
Unless he is a millionaire I don't see why he didn't touch his Bitcoins to be honest , maybe lost private keys ? but I don't think a careful about privacy as Satoshi could simply lose his private keys Shocked

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January 18, 2015, 06:16:29 PM
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There is a 99% that's it him I guess but why & why in the world he never touched his BTC if it's his or even anyone else BTC Shocked
Unless he is a millionaire I don't see why he didn't touch his Bitcoins to be honest , maybe lost private keys ? but I don't think a careful about privacy as Satoshi could simply lose his private keys Shocked

He may be millionaire or he may be running some sort of big bitcoin service that's making him $$$ and he use that untouched millions to keep bitcoins value up.

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January 18, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
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So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature
Sure. It's pretty clear which addresses belong to him. If one of those coins are transferred to
an exchange deposit address (or, in fact, to any other address), this will be the hottest topic
here and on reddit and everywhere within minutes.
Can you point me to any of these addresses? Purely for research I should add
Here are the first 5 blocks:

https://blockchain.info/address/12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX
https://blockchain.info/address/1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1
https://blockchain.info/address/1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR
https://blockchain.info/address/15ubicBBWFnvoZLT7GiU2qxjRaKJPdkDMG
https://blockchain.info/address/1JfbZRwdDHKZmuiZgYArJZhcuuzuw2HuMu


There is a 99% that's it him I guess but why & why in the world he never touched his BTC if it's his or even anyone else BTC Shocked
Unless he is a millionaire I don't see why he didn't touch his Bitcoins to be honest , maybe lost private keys ? but I don't think a careful about privacy as Satoshi could simply lose his private keys Shocked

Think about it, someone who essentially architects a system reliant on asymmetric cryptography (Bitcoin) would lose or forget his private key... I think not, the fact that people think this is true is actually funny to me.
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January 18, 2015, 07:24:01 PM
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I have been doing some digging and trying to find where Satoshi's alleged 1 million BTC are. I can't find anyone who can point me in the right direction, can anyone here help?

Here is a very detailed analysis of who likely mined the early blocks as well as a lower bound on how many bitcoins they heach have control of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507458.0

You also might want to take a look at this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
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January 18, 2015, 11:22:13 PM
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I have been doing some digging and trying to find where Satoshi's alleged 1 million BTC are. I can't find anyone who can point me in the right direction, can anyone here help?

Here is a very detailed analysis of who likely mined the early blocks as well as a lower bound on how many bitcoins they heach have control of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507458.0

You also might want to take a look at this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
This is very helpful. Thank you Smiley

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January 18, 2015, 11:27:06 PM
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So can anyone prove that he hasn't already cashed out?

I'm sceptical by nature
Sure. It's pretty clear which addresses belong to him. If one of those coins are transferred to
an exchange deposit address (or, in fact, to any other address), this will be the hottest topic
here and on reddit and everywhere within minutes.
Can you point me to any of these addresses? Purely for research I should add
Here are the first 5 blocks:

https://blockchain.info/address/12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX
https://blockchain.info/address/1HLoD9E4SDFFPDiYfNYnkBLQ85Y51J3Zb1
https://blockchain.info/address/1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR
https://blockchain.info/address/15ubicBBWFnvoZLT7GiU2qxjRaKJPdkDMG
https://blockchain.info/address/1JfbZRwdDHKZmuiZgYArJZhcuuzuw2HuMu


There is a 99% that's it him I guess but why & why in the world he never touched his BTC if it's his or even anyone else BTC Shocked
Unless he is a millionaire I don't see why he didn't touch his Bitcoins to be honest , maybe lost private keys ? but I don't think a careful about privacy as Satoshi could simply lose his private keys Shocked

Think about it, someone who essentially architects a system reliant on asymmetric cryptography (Bitcoin) would lose or forget his private key... I think not, the fact that people think this is true is actually funny to me.

Deliberately lose maybe, bitcoin was/is just an experiment and was virtually valueless at the time so it wouldn't have really made him greedy.
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