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"A prototype cryptocurrency point-of-sales (POS) terminal called Bitcoin Box can process transactions without the need for an Internet connection. Instead it relies on Near Field Communications (NFC) and Bluetooth to enable payments." I think this is a great news, and in the next 5-6 years the bitcoin will be more easily to use. Source : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-box-can-process-payments-web-connection/
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January 18, 2015, 05:12:18 PM |
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Using bluetooth? so its still vunerable to local attacks and people listening out this could be pretty bad in a high dense population as this could become a frequent attack looking out for bluetooth signals and intercepting them
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January 18, 2015, 05:33:36 PM |
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Using bluetooth? so its still vunerable to local attacks and people listening out this could be pretty bad in a high dense population as this could become a frequent attack looking out for bluetooth signals and intercepting them
Interesting possibilty , thanks for you opinion. This way it is only in the place without an internet connection.
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January 18, 2015, 05:51:07 PM |
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the most important is the security system problem
if people using nfc and bluetooth,then the priority is not the transaction itself but the security
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January 18, 2015, 06:58:55 PM |
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Using bluetooth? so its still vunerable to local attacks and people listening out this could be pretty bad in a high dense population as this could become a frequent attack looking out for bluetooth signals and intercepting them
Transactions are public information and they are secure because they are signed. There could be a danger of a MITM attack, though. The sender must be sure they are sending to the correct address.
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January 18, 2015, 07:43:28 PM |
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opens up a lot of possibilities for security and vulnerability in cold wallets
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"A prototype cryptocurrency point-of-sales (POS) terminal called Bitcoin Box can process transactions without the need for an Internet connection. Instead it relies on Near Field Communications (NFC) and Bluetooth to enable payments."
I think this is a great news, and in the next 5-6 years the bitcoin will be more easily to use.
Hey, NFC and Bluetooth enable some kind of an Internet connection, only less safe, less reliable, and much slower. Then, I don't know where guy who wrote this article is living, and everywhere I've been, it was easier to find an Internet connection than NFC or Bluetooth.
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January 19, 2015, 02:40:00 AM |
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I would advise against Bluetooth for important data
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January 19, 2015, 06:25:25 AM |
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"A prototype cryptocurrency point-of-sales (POS) terminal called Bitcoin Box can process transactions without the need for an Internet connection. Instead it relies on Near Field Communications (NFC) and Bluetooth to enable payments." I think this is a great news, and in the next 5-6 years the bitcoin will be more easily to use. Source : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-box-can-process-payments-web-connection/Using Bluetooth only in near location its not efficient and the security is too risk right.
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January 19, 2015, 06:38:32 AM |
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"A prototype cryptocurrency point-of-sales (POS) terminal called Bitcoin Box can process transactions without the need for an Internet connection. Instead it relies on Near Field Communications (NFC) and Bluetooth to enable payments." I think this is a great news, and in the next 5-6 years the bitcoin will be more easily to use. Source : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-box-can-process-payments-web-connection/Bluetooth ha ? so I have no chance to use this Bitcoin Box in my country or local area since no one here know what Digital Currency is or what Online shopping is , even Paypal .. they don't hear of it ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Guess I will just stick to internet connections and trade worldwide . I like the idea tho , It make things a lot more simple
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January 19, 2015, 07:49:04 AM |
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The most important is the security system problem
if people using nfc and bluetooth,then the priority is not the transaction itself but the security
Right. No matter what the payment system in use, NFC and Bluetooth communications have serious security problems. It's really tough authenticating securely to a device you've never seen before. There's something to be said for credit cards with mag stripes and contact-type credit cards. They're not readable while they're inside your wallet.
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January 19, 2015, 10:14:22 AM |
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"A prototype cryptocurrency point-of-sales (POS) terminal called Bitcoin Box can process transactions without the need for an Internet connection. Instead it relies on Near Field Communications (NFC) and Bluetooth to enable payments." I think this is a great news, and in the next 5-6 years the bitcoin will be more easily to use. Source : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-box-can-process-payments-web-connection/The way I see it, there should be an optical interface in order to send those transactions. It's the only safe way.
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January 19, 2015, 11:15:37 AM |
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if this is true this is are great news for us, maybe people dont want to use bluetooth and i understand it, using it is a risk for our security, but dont forget that this is still in develop/prototype so who know what will happend with the final product ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Btw It is a thing that bitcoin users care a lot, so i hope they improved it a lot before they release it.
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January 19, 2015, 11:40:53 AM |
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Something which I don't get is how does the transaction get written to the blockchain to be validated by the network. For example, if let's say two smartphones exchange bitcoins via NFC, then in this scenario, how does the transaction get confirmed?
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January 19, 2015, 12:31:17 PM |
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The security is pretty weak, don't you think? I mean the possibility of someone unwanted getting access is very common and the biggest question is how is it get confirmed by the network !!!
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January 19, 2015, 12:36:16 PM |
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Interesting read, as mentioned already; it'll be interesting to see how they handle the security aspect.
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January 19, 2015, 02:23:56 PM |
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So in this way is it not "secure" ? hmmm I thought it was a great idea , but with the bluetooth it is not secure.... you are right.
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January 19, 2015, 02:29:59 PM |
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Why is Bluetooth insecure for Bitcoin transactions? I don't understand. Transactions are already sent signed, so it's not like someone could tamper them, or can they?
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January 19, 2015, 07:19:50 PM |
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Why is Bluetooth insecure for Bitcoin transactions? I don't understand. Transactions are already sent signed, so it's not like someone could tamper them, or can they?
I don't know if it is possible "tamper" a transaction when it was sent, maybe you can modify it before but not during/after the sending.
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January 19, 2015, 07:24:17 PM |
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Why is Bluetooth insecure for Bitcoin transactions? I don't understand. Transactions are already sent signed, so it's not like someone could tamper them, or can they?
I don't know if it is possible "tamper" a transaction when it was sent, maybe you can modify it before but not during/after the sending. OK, so sending the transaction via Bluetooth is secure. Is there something I'm missing? Maybe the other ones who said it's insecure can answer me.
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