What is Data321?

[Bizmark13]

I've been getting Google search results for a site called Data321.net that seems to be Chinese in origin and a near-perfect mirror of Bitcointalk.org. The site is currently down at the moment but Google's cache reveals that it is exactly the same - i.e. it looks the same, has the same members, same threads and posts, etc. Even more strange is that all references to "bitcointalk.org" have been replaced with "data321.net" like as if someone performed a search & replace command on the whole site. - e.g. the thread "changing my username on bitcointalk.org" becomes "changing my username on data321.net".

It seems to have been up for a few months and only went down in the past several days or so. Does anyone know what it is and why it was created? Is it a secret project by one of the admins here? Or is it the Chinese version of Bitcointa.lk?

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[Blazr]

There's a bunch of sites out there that automatically copy posts from forums in order to try and get traffic from search engines. Some of them even use hacked domains. Data321 was probably just one of these websites.

[Salmon1989]

I've been getting Google search results for a site called Data321.net that seems to be Chinese in origin and a near-perfect mirror of Bitcointalk.org. The site is currently down at the moment but Google's cache reveals that it is exactly the same - i.e. it looks the same, has the same members, same threads and posts, etc. Even more strange is that all references to "bitcointalk.org" have been replaced with "data321.net" like as if someone performed a search & replace command on the whole site. - e.g. the thread "changing my username on bitcointalk.org" becomes "changing my username on data321.net".

It seems to have been up for a few months and only went down in the past several days or so. Does anyone know what it is and why it was created? Is it a secret project by one of the admins here? Or is it the Chinese version of Bitcointa.lk?

Sounds just like https://bitcointa.lk/ (wasn't working for a few months now) which copies the content of bitcointalk with web crawlers.

[cbase]

they just scrap data from bitcointalk and post them same as it is posted on bitcointalk
or you can say a clone site but right now we are at original site of bitcoin discussion

[GrandmaJean]

they just scrap data from bitcointalk and post them same as it is posted on bitcointalk
or you can say a clone site but right now we are at original site of bitcoin discussion

Here people can do things like edit and delete posts. However on mirrors and sites that copy information from the forum automatically, any edits that happen can be detected and called out, especially when someone is trying to pull some kind of scam or if there is some kind of dispute.

Sure the admins on here have access to this information as well but they often will not want to get involved in disputes 

[marcotheminer]

Could be to allow users from China to bypass the bitcointalk.org ban which is currently on over there. This could explain why the site shows just the local section for what is supposedly Chinese.

[grue]

if you visit the site and scroll to the bottom, you'll see this:

本网站为比特币加速站点，只为方便中国用户搜索及查找相关答案，属于非营利网站,友情链接或者其他相关问题，请联系QQ:2450057300.

which translates to

This website is Bitcoin accelerate site, only for the convenience of Chinese users to search and find relevant answers, a non-profit website, links or other related issues, please contact QQ: 2450057300.

Mystery solved. all you had to do was scroll down.

[marcotheminer]

if you visit the site and scroll to the bottom, you'll see this:

本网站为比特币加速站点，只为方便中国用户搜索及查找相关答案，属于非营利网站,友情链接或者其他相关问题，请联系QQ:2450057300.

which translates to

This website is Bitcoin accelerate site, only for the convenience of Chinese users to search and find relevant answers, a non-profit website, links or other related issues, please contact QQ: 2450057300.

Mystery solved. all you had to do was scroll down.

Yea right that it's non-profit.. I'm talking to you, banner ad!

[dogie]

if you visit the site and scroll to the bottom, you'll see this:

本网站为比特币加速站点，只为方便中国用户搜索及查找相关答案，属于非营利网站,友情链接或者其他相关问题，请联系QQ:2450057300.

which translates to

This website is Bitcoin accelerate site, only for the convenience of Chinese users to search and find relevant answers, a non-profit website, links or other related issues, please contact QQ: 2450057300.

Mystery solved. all you had to do was scroll down.

Yea right that it's non-profit.. I'm talking to you, banner ad!

Profiting off other's copyright, sounds familiar.

[Quickseller]

if you visit the site and scroll to the bottom, you'll see this:

本网站为比特币加速站点，只为方便中国用户搜索及查找相关答案，属于非营利网站,友情链接或者其他相关问题，请联系QQ:2450057300.

which translates to

This website is Bitcoin accelerate site, only for the convenience of Chinese users to search and find relevant answers, a non-profit website, links or other related issues, please contact QQ: 2450057300.

Mystery solved. all you had to do was scroll down.

Yea right that it's non-profit.. I'm talking to you, banner ad!

Profiting off other's copyright, sounds familiar.

just because they have revenue doesn't mean they are profiting. They obviously have expenses.

[marcotheminer]

if you visit the site and scroll to the bottom, you'll see this:

本网站为比特币加速站点，只为方便中国用户搜索及查找相关答案，属于非营利网站,友情链接或者其他相关问题，请联系QQ:2450057300.

which translates to

This website is Bitcoin accelerate site, only for the convenience of Chinese users to search and find relevant answers, a non-profit website, links or other related issues, please contact QQ: 2450057300.

Mystery solved. all you had to do was scroll down.

Yea right that it's non-profit.. I'm talking to you, banner ad!

Profiting off other's copyright, sounds familiar.

Was this aimed at me, what are you referring to?

[dogie]

if you visit the site and scroll to the bottom, you'll see this:

本网站为比特币加速站点，只为方便中国用户搜索及查找相关答案，属于非营利网站,友情链接或者其他相关问题，请联系QQ:2450057300.

which translates to

This website is Bitcoin accelerate site, only for the convenience of Chinese users to search and find relevant answers, a non-profit website, links or other related issues, please contact QQ: 2450057300.

Mystery solved. all you had to do was scroll down.

Yea right that it's non-profit.. I'm talking to you, banner ad!

Profiting off other's copyright, sounds familiar.

Was this aimed at me, what are you referring to?

No, badly phrased. Just that it's common.

[b!z]

if you visit the site and scroll to the bottom, you'll see this:

本网站为比特币加速站点，只为方便中国用户搜索及查找相关答案，属于非营利网站,友情链接或者其他相关问题，请联系QQ:2450057300.

which translates to

This website is Bitcoin accelerate site, only for the convenience of Chinese users to search and find relevant answers, a non-profit website, links or other related issues, please contact QQ: 2450057300.

Mystery solved. all you had to do was scroll down.

Yea right that it's non-profit.. I'm talking to you, banner ad!

Profiting off other's copyright, sounds familiar.

just because they have revenue doesn't mean they are profiting. They obviously have expenses.

Doesn't matter if you're a non profit... I believe the rule is that you shouldn't use other people's copyrights for any commercial gain?

[grue]

Doesn't matter if you're a non profit... I believe the rule is that you shouldn't use other people's copyrights for any commercial gain?

consider the following:
If I was running a http proxy, would it be okay to insert a banner at the top of each page (like this) to fund the server?

[b!z]

Doesn't matter if you're a non profit... I believe the rule is that you shouldn't use other people's copyrights for any commercial gain?

consider the following:
If I was running a http proxy, would it be okay to insert a banner at the top of each page (like this) to fund the server?

I'm not a lawyer, but common sense tells me the answer is 'no' - it would not be okay to earn money off of someone else's work without their permission.

It doesn't apply to your example, because there's no commercial intent. But if there was a banner ad there...

[dogie]

Doesn't matter if you're a non profit... I believe the rule is that you shouldn't use other people's copyrights for any commercial gain?

consider the following:
If I was running a http proxy, would it be okay to insert a banner at the top of each page (like this) to fund the server?

I'm not a lawyer, but common sense tells me the answer is 'no' - it would not be okay to earn money off of someone else's work without their permission.

It doesn't apply to your example, because there's no commercial intent. But if there was a banner ad there...

The law goes further than that [not a layer]. Every post is the copyright of the poster if reproduced in its entirety. So if the rights holder (or by proxy, the forum owner) requests that they do not reproduce their content then they would have to abide (ignoring they're in CN and would ignore it). Commercial use / monetisation doesn't matter in this case, if there is no permission or license then they cant reproduce content in its entirety.

[As an aside, it gets more interesting in a dispute between the poster and the forum operator.]