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January 23, 2015, 06:03:14 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad
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January 23, 2015, 06:17:56 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

Are you using blockchain.info wallet? If so, you can wait for 2 to 3 days and the transaction will be removed if it is still unconfirmed, and you can create a new transaction then.

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January 23, 2015, 06:20:33 AM
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thats what happens when you dont give a transaction fee, theres no incentive for anyone to process your transaction
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January 23, 2015, 06:21:10 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

Are you using blockchain.info wallet? If so, you can wait for 2 to 3 days and the transaction will be removed if it is still unconfirmed, and you can create a new transaction then.

yes I used the blockchain.info wallet, I don't see the point in them offering a zero fee transaction when it's never confirmed & you have to wait days before you can try again  Undecided
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January 23, 2015, 06:27:52 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

Are you using blockchain.info wallet? If so, you can wait for 2 to 3 days and the transaction will be removed if it is still unconfirmed, and you can create a new transaction then.

yes I used the blockchain.info wallet, I don't see the point in them offering a zero fee transaction when it's never confirmed & you have to wait days before you can try again  Undecided

Zero fee transactions would confirm in a reasonable time, if the transactions satisfy 3 conditions. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Sending

However, your transaction has a priority of just 1034764, which is way too low. https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

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January 23, 2015, 06:43:33 AM
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Is it called Orphaned Block when your transaction never confirm?
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January 23, 2015, 06:45:12 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

Are you using blockchain.info wallet? If so, you can wait for 2 to 3 days and the transaction will be removed if it is still unconfirmed, and you can create a new transaction then.

There is no way to send 0 fee transactions using blockchain.info.

Also the network undo old 0 confirmation transactions after some days. So just wait and avoid 0 fees in the future

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January 23, 2015, 07:03:47 AM
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Your own fault for being so stingy with the tx fee
Next time, 10k satoshis

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January 23, 2015, 07:14:40 AM
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Your own fault for being so stingy with the tx fee
Next time, 10k satoshis

people are so stingy they wont even pay 0.02 usd for a transaction, at least lower the fee if youre patient enough to wait a bit longer, but 0 is going a bit far
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January 23, 2015, 07:59:19 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

Are you using blockchain.info wallet? If so, you can wait for 2 to 3 days and the transaction will be removed if it is still unconfirmed, and you can create a new transaction then.

There is no way to send 0 fee transactions using blockchain.info.

In fact, you can.
OP has confirmed that he was using blockchain.info in making that zero fee transaction.
Another example is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186737.0.

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January 23, 2015, 08:25:51 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

Are you using blockchain.info wallet? If so, you can wait for 2 to 3 days and the transaction will be removed if it is still unconfirmed, and you can create a new transaction then.

There is no way to send 0 fee transactions using blockchain.info.

In fact, you can.
OP has confirmed that he was using blockchain.info in making that zero fee transaction.
Another example is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186737.0.

All I did was choose Frugal as default fee policy. I don't know what "unless absolutely essential" means but it seems essential that my transaction will not end up unconfirmed forever until days later when I can try again.

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January 23, 2015, 08:33:37 AM
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I kind of smile, when I see the "zero fees" being advocated, when you use Bitcoin. Yes you can send BTC to someone with zero fees, but you run the risk, that it would never be confirmed.

They should say, "Very low fee's" or "flexible fee's" when they talk about this. People who are new to BTC will be discouraged, if they send transactions with zero fee's and it gets discarded or never confirmed.

Rather encourge people to send BTC with low fees, and have quicker transaction confirmation and tell them to increase the fee's, if they are in a hurry.  Wink

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January 23, 2015, 08:52:02 AM
Last edit: January 23, 2015, 11:19:55 AM by twister
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Why is it so hard for people to add the minimum fee which is only 10k sats? You'll have to wait for as long as it takes it to either go through or come back to your wallet and you can't do anything about it but hopefully you'll learn from this and never ever do it again.

 

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January 23, 2015, 08:54:21 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

Are you using blockchain.info wallet? If so, you can wait for 2 to 3 days and the transaction will be removed if it is still unconfirmed, and you can create a new transaction then.

yes I used the blockchain.info wallet, I don't see the point in them offering a zero fee transaction when it's never confirmed & you have to wait days before you can try again  Undecided
Complaining about miners' greed?

Your greed for just 0.0001 BTC is at fault.
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January 23, 2015, 09:11:21 AM
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Now it's saying my bitcoin address "Double Spend"  Huh Is this because I tried to load my private key into my phone while it was still unconfirmed?

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January 23, 2015, 09:13:40 AM
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Now it's saying my bitcoin address "Double Spend"  Huh Is this because I tried to load my private key into my phone while it was still unconfirmed?


If you loaded it onto your phone and tried to sent transactions, then yes. This is why.
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January 23, 2015, 12:26:00 PM
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My double spend warning is gone & I got this email from blockchain.info just now:

https://i.imgur.com/5WbXG1g.png

So my transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 is sent to my mobile wallet with a fee of 0.00001000 & the greedy miners are still ignoring my transaction.

Again unconfirmed transactions and it's been like 20 blocks already. I tried to move my coins again now into prime dice & it's costing me more fees & still unconfirmed Sad I'm getting the warning: "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed."

I used the default fee that the program makes me use... so what's going on? Do I really have to pay 10000 Satoshis? Shocked Why isn't that the default then in the mobile app? This sucks I'll be waiting another 24 hours & that's if it gets reversed again. Who knows what to expect Undecided I will be devastated if I lose my $7 worth of bitcoins.
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January 23, 2015, 12:41:07 PM
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My double spend warning is gone & I got this email from blockchain.info just now:



Interesting. I didn't know blockchain.info would send out a notification when your unconfirmed transaction is dropped by their server.

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January 23, 2015, 12:49:32 PM
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better to add a small fee upon the default one, you also get faster confirmation for this
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January 23, 2015, 03:19:21 PM
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 
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