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January 23, 2015, 03:50:36 PM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad
blockchain.info will automatically remove the tx after 48 hr (i think) BUT will auto send it again with a new tx but with same inputs and fee

the 0 fees not confirming occurred exactly after cex.io announce they paused cloudmining! coincidence?!

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January 24, 2015, 07:11:42 AM
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It seems there was some problem in broadcasting your new transaction a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 to the network. The transaction can be found on blockchain.info, but not on other block explorers such as blockr, biteasy and blocktrail.
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January 24, 2015, 07:15:29 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad
blockchain.info will automatically remove the tx after 48 hr (i think) BUT will auto send it again with a new tx but with same inputs and fee

the 0 fees not confirming occurred exactly after cex.io announce they paused cloudmining! coincidence?!

Yes unconfirmed tx will be removed after some days on blockchain.info, but no it won't create a new tx for you automatically. Instead, it will be back to the state before and you can create a new tx yourself.

I don't think they are related at all. Cex stopped mining on Jan 12 but Ghash continues to function, and there are some other pools and private farms out there.
BTW, my high-priority 0-fee transaction got confirmed without problem. Smiley
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January 24, 2015, 07:18:58 AM
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a major shortcoming to bitcoin imnsho

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January 24, 2015, 08:11:14 AM
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It seems there was some problem in broadcasting your new transaction a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 to the network. The transaction can be found on blockchain.info, but not on other block explorers such as blockr, biteasy and blocktrail.

Big surprise! I go to sleep, wake up & my transaction is still unconfirmed https://blockchain.info/address/1N3ND3wijMp2tR5aYv8abZ8audQLcGM6m4 Sad This is getting worse, Blockchain.info where is my money! Now it's not even broadcasting to the network properly. Sad Is every Bitcoin transaction a battle for the highest fees & some transactions are tossed aside, ignored & lost? Also it's Blockchain.info screw up if other sites cant even see my transaction.
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January 24, 2015, 08:15:00 AM
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Read this for references: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees Smiley
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January 24, 2015, 08:50:56 AM
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It seems there was some problem in broadcasting your new transaction a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 to the network. The transaction can be found on blockchain.info, but not on other block explorers such as blockr, biteasy and blocktrail.

Big surprise! I go to sleep, wake up & my transaction is still unconfirmed https://blockchain.info/address/1N3ND3wijMp2tR5aYv8abZ8audQLcGM6m4 Sad This is getting worse, Blockchain.info where is my money! Now it's not even broadcasting to the network properly. Sad Is every Bitcoin transaction a battle for the highest fees & some transactions are tossed aside, ignored & lost? Also it's Blockchain.info screw up if other sites cant even see my transaction.
You are spending a output which is unconfirmed, unless that transaction gets confirmed, the new transaction you made will never be confirmed. For that tranasaction, you included a transaction fee, which is very low. Include a 0.0001 transaction fee next time when you send a new transaction. It may take sometime to confirm but it would be confirmed eventually.

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January 24, 2015, 12:08:18 PM
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Don't panic. It should confirm within 2-4 days based on my past experience. If you don't want to wait next time, remember to include a trans fee. Read more here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232979.0
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January 24, 2015, 02:02:36 PM
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.

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January 24, 2015, 03:17:17 PM
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.

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January 24, 2015, 03:22:47 PM
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Still, 10k is less than 0.03$. Might as well pay the fee if you don't want to wait forever till it confirms. The fee is relatively insignificant compared to bank fees.  Roll Eyes
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January 24, 2015, 03:58:07 PM
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Wow at that response, did you read the whole thread prior to attacking me? He has it on gambling that he will loose probably anyway and he doesn't have 2 cents to pay fees? U serious.

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January 24, 2015, 05:16:18 PM
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Wow at that response, did you read the whole thread prior to attacking me? He has it on gambling that he will loose probably anyway and he doesn't have 2 cents to pay fees? U serious.
Yes and obviously you didn't comprehend "who cares who he is paying to."
The point is transaction fees, not who they pay or how they spend it.
everyone is all big about paying the tax. man up and pay it for him.

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January 25, 2015, 12:19:48 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad
blockchain.info will automatically remove the tx after 48 hr (i think) BUT will auto send it again with a new tx but with same inputs and fee

the 0 fees not confirming occurred exactly after cex.io announce they paused cloudmining! coincidence?!

Yes unconfirmed tx will be removed after some days on blockchain.info, but no it won't create a new tx for you automatically. Instead, it will be back to the state before and you can create a new tx yourself.

I don't think they are related at all. Cex stopped mining on Jan 12 but Ghash continues to function, and there are some other pools and private farms out there.
BTW, my high-priority 0-fee transaction got confirmed without problem. Smiley

The transaction could theoretically be included in any arbitrarily chosen block in the future just as long as the original inputs have not been spent in the meantime. If people are experiencing a delay due to no transaction fees, they should just go ahead and re-broadcast the transaction with a fee.

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January 25, 2015, 07:10:55 AM
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I don't know much about this! but thanks to your thread , i ain't experimenting with my bitcoins .
paying a small fee is fine with me Smiley
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January 25, 2015, 07:56:24 AM
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I didn't even touch my blockchain.info wallet today & I get an email just now saying a transaction was sent to lucky bit blue!  Shocked

https://i.imgur.com/Eou5Abp.png

I also have the double spend warning! All I did was wait patiently for this transaction to confirm: a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 & then automatically without asking me blockchain.info tried to send to luckybit blue again! here: b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be also there was no fee just like before, I did not send this transaction! Somehow it resent my transaction that never got confirmed a few days ago automatically, WTF IS GOING ON!!

https://i.imgur.com/RPyAbcV.png
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January 25, 2015, 08:05:40 AM
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I didn't even touch my blockchain.info wallet today & I get an email just now saying a transaction was sent to lucky bit blue!  Shocked



I also have the double spend warning! All I did was wait patiently for this transaction to confirm: a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 & then automatically without asking me blockchain.info tried to send to luckybit blue again! here: b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be also there was no fee just like before, I did not send this transaction! Somehow it resent my transaction that never got confirmed a few days ago automatically, WTF IS GOING ON!!



Looks like someone has rebroadcast your original transaction to the network just now...
No idea who did that and why he did that, but the good news is others won't be able to alter the recipient address and steal your bitcoin.

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January 25, 2015, 08:23:52 AM
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Looks like someone has rebroadcast your original transaction to the network just now...
No idea who did that and why he did that, but the good news is others won't be able to alter the recipient address and steal your bitcoin.

Can you elaborate on that more? I don't understand how someone else can rebroadcast my old transaction that never got confirmed & was cancelled.
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January 25, 2015, 08:39:20 AM
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Looks like someone has rebroadcast your original transaction to the network just now...
No idea who did that and why he did that, but the good news is others won't be able to alter the recipient address and steal your bitcoin.

Can you elaborate on that more? I don't understand how someone else can rebroadcast my old transaction that never got confirmed & was cancelled.

If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/<TxID>?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.

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January 25, 2015, 09:27:42 AM
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I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

If you send more than 1 BTC with no fee it will confirm but a small number of btc without a fee seems likely never to confirm.
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