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January 25, 2015, 12:25:50 PM
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If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/<TxID>?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.

This is a huge flaw in BTC! Angry How the fuck am I supposed to get my bitcoin back? People are going to repeatedly rebroadcast my transactions that will never be confirmed because miners are greedy assholes.

It happened just now again! Angry Someone rebroadcasted my 2nd bitcoin transaction without my permission! Is there any way out of this unconfirmed limbo loop?! I just wanna get my coins the hell off blockchain.info!
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January 25, 2015, 12:52:36 PM
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If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/<TxID>?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.

This is a huge flaw in BTC! Angry How the fuck am I supposed to get my bitcoin back? People are going to repeatedly rebroadcast my transactions that will never be confirmed because miners are greedy assholes.

It happened just now again! Angry Someone rebroadcasted my 2nd bitcoin transaction without my permission! Is there any way out of this unconfirmed limbo loop?! I just wanna get my coins the hell off blockchain.info!

It won't be a problem for people rebroadcasting your second transaction (the one with fee). In fact, it is a good thing to you.

But if people keep rebroadcasting your first transaction (the one without fee), the bitcoin nodes will not drop it from their mempool and it will be hard for your second transaction to be relayed across the network and reach the miners.

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January 25, 2015, 01:03:50 PM
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If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/<TxID>?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.

This is a huge flaw in BTC! Angry How the fuck am I supposed to get my bitcoin back? People are going to repeatedly rebroadcast my transactions that will never be confirmed because miners are greedy assholes.

It happened just now again! Angry Someone rebroadcasted my 2nd bitcoin transaction without my permission! Is there any way out of this unconfirmed limbo loop?! I just wanna get my coins the hell off blockchain.info!

Maybe lucky.bit rebroadcasts transactions automatically. Ask them, they should give you some informations because they must have the situation of small amounts sent without a fee quite often.

I asked : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757624.2420
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January 25, 2015, 02:31:59 PM
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My double spend warning is gone & I got this email from blockchain.info just now:



So my transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 is sent to my mobile wallet with a fee of 0.00001000 & the greedy miners are still ignoring my transaction.

Again unconfirmed transactions and it's been like 20 blocks already. I tried to move my coins again now into prime dice & it's costing me more fees & still unconfirmed Sad I'm getting the warning: "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed."

I used the default fee that the program makes me use... so what's going on? Do I really have to pay 10000 Satoshis? Shocked Why isn't that the default then in the mobile app? This sucks I'll be waiting another 24 hours & that's if it gets reversed again. Who knows what to expect Undecided I will be devastated if I lose my $7 worth of bitcoins.

read this @picolo he got refund i think !
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January 25, 2015, 02:45:38 PM
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My double spend warning is gone & I got this email from blockchain.info just now:



So my transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 is sent to my mobile wallet with a fee of 0.00001000 & the greedy miners are still ignoring my transaction.

Again unconfirmed transactions and it's been like 20 blocks already. I tried to move my coins again now into prime dice & it's costing me more fees & still unconfirmed Sad I'm getting the warning: "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed."

I used the default fee that the program makes me use... so what's going on? Do I really have to pay 10000 Satoshis? Shocked Why isn't that the default then in the mobile app? This sucks I'll be waiting another 24 hours & that's if it gets reversed again. Who knows what to expect Undecided I will be devastated if I lose my $7 worth of bitcoins.

read this @picolo he got refund i think !

Not really. He is still waiting to get one of those double-spend transactions confirmed, and someone else was rebroadcasting those transactions for no reason.

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January 25, 2015, 05:12:16 PM
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Your transaction has finally been confirmed. https://blockchain.info/tx/773ab9373b8a26914efa5b2ac2ba0b52b6657c59b5e6cb788d1c2b34c5528e22
Congrats, and you shouldn't make a zero fee transaction next time. Smiley

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January 25, 2015, 05:18:01 PM
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Wow at that response, did you read the whole thread prior to attacking me? He has it on gambling that he will loose probably anyway and he doesn't have 2 cents to pay fees? U serious.
Yes and obviously you didn't comprehend "who cares who he is paying to."
The point is transaction fees, not who they pay or how they spend it.
everyone is all big about paying the tax. man up and pay it for him.
Pay it for him? Lol and how? And why? That's retarded argument.

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January 25, 2015, 05:21:46 PM
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its strange payment not conformed

Do not make Zero fees
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January 25, 2015, 06:26:45 PM
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Your transaction has finally been confirmed. https://blockchain.info/tx/773ab9373b8a26914efa5b2ac2ba0b52b6657c59b5e6cb788d1c2b34c5528e22
Congrats, and you shouldn't make a zero fee transaction next time. Smiley

Yes that one got confirmed! So I got my coins off blockchain.info but my next transaction moving the coins off my mobile into primedice.com
https://blockchain.info/tx/516fd6543d063ee4e1cc338c68f9ae3e76a3deb85cc2e83315e7eaf1aa4aea3e sent 0.00001000 fee automatically.

I had no choice, I was looking through the menu & there seems to be no option to change the fee on the bitcoin mobile app.  Sad still waiting...
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January 25, 2015, 06:37:54 PM
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Huh, very interesting, man. I think miners or full nodes should drop transactions with not enough fees (if they don't intend to include them in a block) in favour of the transaction with transaction fees!

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