WoodCollector the saga continues?....

[smoothie]

This is WC's latest post where he says:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472.msg10239136#msg10239136

The shit storm will be over soon. Video proof should be up within the next 12-18 hours depending on how slow you tube wants to continue to be.

Let me correct myself, the "shit storm" will be over on my behalf. We all know nothing is going to shut this mad mob of degenerates down no matter what, not a single one of them is man enough to admit when they messed up and apologize.

Good job buddy I even said on multiple occasions that I would publicly apologize if you posted irrefutable proof that you claims of your work are purely hand-carved and not anything else.

Even despite that you have proven elsewhere on this forum you have:

1. Hypocritical by demanding that nubbins approach you as I did in a respectful manner about your work before making posts/accusations then you throw me under the bus about my coin design artwork stating that it was copied from deviant art which I disproved and you went silent on having nothing to say. Note: in Dec 2014 I respectfully approached you and tried to get the facts about your work. Then I thought your work was laser done and even those explanations did not convince me that your work was only hand-carved and not laser engrave.

From what I gather from the photos you posted above it seems to me (from what I can see) that your piece looks more like this https://i.imgur.com/CoDNGQm.jpg than this https://i.imgur.com/CoDNGQm.jpg

If I am not mistaken it does look a bit flat from the pictures. Could you elaborate to me how it is not like the first link I pasted above?

Lasers also have the ability to go at different depths. I would imagine other more specialized lasers have the ability to move the laser in a 3-dimensional space to carve out an image like the second link you provided above.

All one would need to do is provide the 3dimensional vector image to the system and it would do something as complex as the second link.

Then again that last part I am just guessing as I have not used a 3d laser (if it exists).

Shoot me a PM smoothie, i will go more into detail for you, or do you maybe have skype? I dont want to clutter up the thread with a pages full of talk about the difference between laser engraving and carving. On skype we could have conversation, you could teach me some things i dont know about laser engraving, and i can teach you about the process and results of carving.

2. Your claims of doing original/custom work and strongly implying it in several of your posts which contradicts your reasoning for not returning $200 deposit of LazerViking because you said you never said your work was original/custom. You sir are a liar on this point.

3. Your immature attitude in approaching your opposers and resorting to homophobic slurs and cussing shows your maturity level.

Waiting on the video...

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[Somekindabitcoin]

This is WC's latest post where he says:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472.msg10239136#msg10239136

The shit storm will be over soon. Video proof should be up within the next 12-18 hours depending on how slow you tube wants to continue to be.

Let me correct myself, the "shit storm" will be over on my behalf. We all know nothing is going to shut this mad mob of degenerates down no matter what, not a single one of them is man enough to admit when they messed up and apologize.

Good job buddy I even said on multiple occasions that I would publicly apologize if you posted irrefutable proof that you claims of your work are purely hand-carved and not anything else.

Even despite that you have proven elsewhere on this forum you have:

1. Hypocritical by demanding that nubbins approach you as I did in a respectful manner about your work before making posts/accusations then you throw me under the bus about my coin design artwork stating that it was copied from deviant art which I disproved and you went silent on having nothing to say. Note: in Dec 2014 I respectfully approached you and tried to get the facts about your work. Then I thought your work was laser done and even those explanations did not convince me that your work was only hand-carved and not laser engrave.

From what I gather from the photos you posted above it seems to me (from what I can see) that your piece looks more like this https://i.imgur.com/CoDNGQm.jpg than this https://i.imgur.com/CoDNGQm.jpg

If I am not mistaken it does look a bit flat from the pictures. Could you elaborate to me how it is not like the first link I pasted above?

Lasers also have the ability to go at different depths. I would imagine other more specialized lasers have the ability to move the laser in a 3-dimensional space to carve out an image like the second link you provided above.

All one would need to do is provide the 3dimensional vector image to the system and it would do something as complex as the second link.

Then again that last part I am just guessing as I have not used a 3d laser (if it exists).

Shoot me a PM smoothie, i will go more into detail for you, or do you maybe have skype? I dont want to clutter up the thread with a pages full of talk about the difference between laser engraving and carving. On skype we could have conversation, you could teach me some things i dont know about laser engraving, and i can teach you about the process and results of carving.

2. Your claims of doing original/custom work and strongly implying it in several of your posts which contradicts your reasoning for not returning $200 deposit of LazerViking because you said you never said your work was original/custom. You sir are a liar on this point.

3. Your immature attitude in approaching your opposers and resorting to homophobic slurs and cussing shows your maturity level.

Waiting on the video...

Truth, but I wouldn't take that one video proof as total proof. Sure, he could have made that one by hand, but look at the subtle differences between the other coins in his pictures and the one in the video. Truly, if they look different (since all the other coins seem to look exactly the same) he could be laser cutting the others.


I proposed a challenge in which he would manually carve every creation he makes and livestream the entire process for the buyer and other people who would like to see it.

[jcpham]

I for one have enjoyed my popcorn this week, long time reader, infrequent participant. Smoothie I'm one of your socks now, the cat is out of the bag, sorry.

Where's the dang YouTube link, I could've made a porno and sourced actors about carving wood by now and uploaded to youtube, what gives!?!?!

[devthedev]

The uncensored service discussion thread is now available! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=933887.msg10239274#msg10239274

[jonald_fyookball]

Most of the stuff woodcollector did isn't 3d like the image smoothie posted.
It seems to be a fixed focal length, like for example the lion head on the coin.  its possible he used a few different lengths for
different parts of the same piece, but again, not really 3d like that. 

[logicalq]

Why was the original thread locked  ?

[nubbins]

Why was the original thread locked  ?

Because it sucked and there's nothing left to say

[runpaint]

So if he does post a video, it won't make any difference?

[jonald_fyookball]

So if he does post a video, it won't make any difference?

Doubtful.

Unless its the most amazing video ever, no... and even then...
he's already been caught in so many lies.

Like someone else pointed out, WC is anonymous.
So, even if he shows us a video
of some unbelievably good carving skills, how would
we know its him and not someone he paid?

That said, I don't think there will be a video because
he can't find someone to show carving skills.  And
if he does, there will be more ridiculous excuses
about the delay (my computer crashed etc).
...and even when the video does surface, it probably won't
really show carvings that look like laser engravings.

[smoothie]

Seems lime 24 hours at least have passed and...no video?

lol waiting... 

[jarvanIV]

i dont know why a person would make a claim, if they cant back up their own stuff up lol.

Why even bother with a video, just accept you fucked up..

[smoothie]

i dont know why a person would make a claim, if they cant back up their own stuff up lol.

Why even bother with a video, just accept you fucked up..

Anyone who takes pride in their work will have no problem showing it off and showing the proof of it.

If I was a master carver I would video every piece I do and upload that on youtube and get more clients that way.

To delay like this goes to show that he likely doesnt have the same pride I would in my work and keeping the evidence to prove your skills to show anyone on a whim.

The delay makes him look even more like a fool on top of the fact that he is keeping a customer's funds while misrepresenting himself as doing original/custom work multiple times on this forum.

The guy is at least a liar, a thief, and a hot head when it comes to confrontation.

[jonald_fyookball]

i dont know why a person would make a claim, if they cant back up their own stuff up lol.

Why even bother with a video, just accept you fucked up..

Hard for normal, honest people to fathom as it isn't even rational.

But I suppose in some people, dishonesty runs so deep that
they would keep lying even when everyone knows it.

[smoothie]

i dont know why a person would make a claim, if they cant back up their own stuff up lol.

Why even bother with a video, just accept you fucked up..

Hard for normal, honest people to fathom as it isn't even rational.

But I suppose in some people, dishonesty runs so deep that
they would keep lying even when everyone knows it.

Some people can't admit they are wrong and will dig themselves deeper just to try to cover up previous lies.

I must say that WC did seem professional at first, then when the accusation came he got really defensive and provided nothing to back up his claims...even now...several days later...0 proof.

[jonald_fyookball]

i dont know why a person would make a claim, if they cant back up their own stuff up lol.

Why even bother with a video, just accept you fucked up..

Hard for normal, honest people to fathom as it isn't even rational.

But I suppose in some people, dishonesty runs so deep that
they would keep lying even when everyone knows it.

Some people can't admit they are wrong and will dig themselves deeper just to try to cover up previous lies.

I must say that WC did seem professional at first, then when the accusation came he got really defensive and provided nothing to back up his claims...even now...several days later...0 proof.

Endgame:  WC slinks away into the shadows...never admits wrong doing...most people recognize him as the
phony he is, and a few people who want to believe in a 'reasonable doubt' will do so. 

[smoothie]

i dont know why a person would make a claim, if they cant back up their own stuff up lol.

Why even bother with a video, just accept you fucked up..

Hard for normal, honest people to fathom as it isn't even rational.

But I suppose in some people, dishonesty runs so deep that
they would keep lying even when everyone knows it.

Some people can't admit they are wrong and will dig themselves deeper just to try to cover up previous lies.

I must say that WC did seem professional at first, then when the accusation came he got really defensive and provided nothing to back up his claims...even now...several days later...0 proof.

Endgame:  WC slinks away into the shadows...never admits wrong doing...most people recognize him as the
phony he is, and a few people who want to believe in a 'reasonable doubt' will do so. 

If he slinks away that would be equivalent to him admitting his guilt.

He may post a video but something tells me it wont matter as he is already been outed as a liar and a thief.

[jonald_fyookball]

yeah but that's what's gonna happen (slink away)...

he only said he would post a video
to look good yesterday... (that's
how short sighted dishonesty is folks)

reality is now asserting itself, and
he realizes there's no possible
way to make any kind of credible
video.

Just my opinion.

[smoothie]

yeah but that's what's gonna happen (slink away)...

he only said he would post a video
to look good yesterday... (that's
how short sighted dishonesty is folks)

reality is now asserting itself, and
he realizes there's no possible
way to make any kind of credible
video.

Just my opinion.

What got me was he kept saying he could give a shit about what people think, then he says he will make a video, then says to me to jump on skype so I can see him do his work, then says he will do a video, then says somewhere in the mix of all of what I just wrote that he still doesnt give a shit what people think and wont jump through hoops to do a video...yet says he is doing a video to be uploaded. 

[jonald_fyookball]

yep...endless contradictions are another byproduct of dishonesty.

Another good example is the lies about how many thousands
of dollars per hour and millions per year he was making, yet
he was borrowing Bitcoins for small things.

[smoothie]

Well... he logged in recently...

Name:   WoodCollector
Posts:   398
Activity:   98
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   November 05, 2014, 04:28:42 AM
Last Active:   Today at 02:24:32 AM



Less than 2 hours ago....still no video...