$5,000 Loan collateral Puddle faucets

[onewiseguy]

Hello,


I am looking for a 2 month Loan of $5,000 in btc it will not be converted  it will stay in btc.

reason for this is I want to expand the puddle faucets redesign all faucets,  servers, claim funds, ad banners advertising.  and another project that connects all three.

The Loan will be back by:

http://bitcoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 78,188  estimated value $32,465
at the moment bitcoinpuddle is being redirected to alienfaucet, working on redesigning at the moment and implanting many new features.  

http://litecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 308,486  estimated value $ 6,502

http://dogecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 132,626 estimated value $ 17,306

at the moment the the faucets have been running low on claim funds due to them being very popular and low on bitcoin and funds.
for bitcoinpuddle.com last month it made $1,300 in adsense. and  ad banners around 1 btc.  amount of btc that went to claims was 2.1 btc
this month its at $1,000 in adsense this is due in part most of this month its been running dry on funds.  

would like for all three of them to run at full capacity for a whole month I would like for them to hit $5,000 -$6,000 in pure profit in the coming month.


if any one would like more information and/ or figure out a plan to put these in escrow or some other deal, please post here.

this is a real Loan request and I would like for some one to have a look at it.


Loan request $5,000 in btc so around 25btc paid in four payments.  if any one is interested please post here.

[Pierre11]

Very sketchy. He's been posting several requests very often over the past couple of days, even as low as 0.05 BTC.

Puddle faucets aren't a great collateral, and it doesn't cost $5,000 to do all that. At the most a couple hundred.

[Quickseller]

http://bitcoinpudle.com Alexa rating 78,188  estimated value $32,465
at the moment bitcoinpuddle is being redirected to alienfaucet, working on redesigning at the moment and implanting many new features. 

According to https://www.valuate.com/ this is worth $0, https://www.freevaluator.com/ it is worth $257 and http://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/www.bitcoinpudle.com it is worth $150. Please explain how to came to the $32k figure. I highly doubt that any reputable valuation site would value it as much.

http://litecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 308,486  estimated value $ 6,502[/quote]
According to https://www.freevaluator.com/ this is worth $10.81, http://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/www.litecoinpuddle.com it is worth $6,502 (I do not find this to be a reputable site however it is 2nd on google search results for domain name value calculator) although it was registered only a month ago so this is not true, and https://www.valuate.com/ says it is worth $0.00. Were you using site price.org to value this? Can you provide a more reputable source to value this domain.

http://dogecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 132,626 estimated value $ 17,306

This has similar low and erroneous valuations. Please provide reputable source for this price.
Additionally please provide stats to show how much each of these sites bring in for revenue every month. I highly doubt that they would bring in enough ad revenue to support these valuations.

--snip--
for bitcoinpuddle.com last month it made $1,300 in adsense. and  ad banners around 1 btc.  amount of btc that went to claims was 2.1 btc
this month its at $1,000 in adsense this is due in part most of this month its been running dry on funds. 

Then why do you need such a large loan? You should be able to buy bitcoin with this ad money.

would like for all three of them to run at full capacity for a whole month I would like for them to hit $5,000 -$6,000 in pure profit in the coming month.

Loan request $5,000 in btc so around 25btc paid in four payments.  if any one is interested please post here.

If you want a $5,000 loan then you would be receiving ~20 BTC which is worth $5k.

What amount of interest are you willing to offer?

[ScryptAsic]

I cannot see any way that this is not a scam 

[onewiseguy]

Very sketchy. He's been posting several requests very often over the past couple of days, even as low as 0.05 BTC.

Puddle faucets aren't a great collateral, and it doesn't cost $5,000 to do all that. At the most a couple hundred.

I love how you guys jump the gun with out any knowledge of what was posted.

This was written by you "Very sketchy. He's been posting several requests very often over the past couple of days, even as low as 0.05 BTC."

this was written by me."at the moment the the faucets have been running low on claim funds due to them being very popular and low on bitcoin and funds. "

do you see what it states?

reason I am asking for loans is to cover the claim funds while I can get some btc and pay even if it is .05btc .  Do you see how it says "at the moment  the faucets have been running low on claim funds due to them being very popular and low on bitcoin and funds. "



"Puddle faucets aren't a great collateral, and it doesn't cost $5,000 to do all that. At the most a couple hundred."
 
How do you know what it costs or does not cost?

Three faucets running for two months. Alot of traffic.
implementing new deigns and features costs money.
do you have three faucets with very high traffic?

[onewiseguy]

http://bitcoinpudle.com Alexa rating 78,188  estimated value $32,465
at the moment bitcoinpuddle is being redirected to alienfaucet, working on redesigning at the moment and implanting many new features. 

According to https://www.valuate.com/ this is worth $0, https://www.freevaluator.com/ it is worth $257 and http://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/www.bitcoinpudle.com it is worth $150. Please explain how to came to the $32k figure. I highly doubt that any reputable valuation site would value it as much.

http://litecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 308,486  estimated value $ 6,502

According to https://www.freevaluator.com/ this is worth $10.81, http://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/www.litecoinpuddle.com it is worth $6,502 (I do not find this to be a reputable site however it is 2nd on google search results for domain name value calculator) although it was registered only a month ago so this is not true, and https://www.valuate.com/ says it is worth $0.00. Were you using site price.org to value this? Can you provide a more reputable source to value this domain.

http://dogecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 132,626 estimated value $ 17,306

This has similar low and erroneous valuations. Please provide reputable source for this price.
Additionally please provide stats to show how much each of these sites bring in for revenue every month. I highly doubt that they would bring in enough ad revenue to support these valuations.

--snip--
for bitcoinpuddle.com last month it made $1,300 in adsense. and  ad banners around 1 btc.  amount of btc that went to claims was 2.1 btc
this month its at $1,000 in adsense this is due in part most of this month its been running dry on funds. 

Then why do you need such a large loan? You should be able to buy bitcoin with this ad money.

would like for all three of them to run at full capacity for a whole month I would like for them to hit $5,000 -$6,000 in pure profit in the coming month.

Loan request $5,000 in btc so around 25btc paid in four payments.  if any one is interested please post here.

If you want a $5,000 loan then you would be receiving ~20 BTC which is worth $5k.

What amount of interest are you willing to offer?
[/quote]

The "reputable"  sites that you pointed out value "Domains" not websites "traffic value" you know that right?
"Were you using site price.org to value this? Can you provide a more reputable source to value this domain. "
sorry these are websites with traffic not just domains.
here are a view valuation sites that look at traffic. not "domains"
www.websitelooker.net/
www.siteprice.org/
www.urlrate.com/
www.worthofweb.com/calculator

whether they are reputable or not traffic and alexa rating dont lie or do they?  none of the traffic is bought so it is real traffic and returning people.

your telling me websites with very low alexa rating are worth less than $1,000 dollars?


"Then why do you need such a large loan? You should be able to buy bitcoin with this ad money. "

do you know how adsense works?
Net30 meaning you get paid every other month.

I would be able to have bitcoin from adbit.co but since the site runs out of claim funds people dont come as often to claim those less clicks.

again reason I am asking for this loan.


"Additionally please provide stats to show how much each of these sites bring in for revenue every month. I highly doubt that they would bring in enough ad revenue to support these valuations." do you run any faucets?  do you run any websites? do you have an adsense account?  if you did you would not be asking these questions. if you know any one that has a high paying faucet with traffic like mine go ahead and ask how much revenue they make. again with your assumptions. and misinformation.


This would be paid off in 4 payments  with 11%

[onewiseguy]

I cannot see any way that this is not a scam 

"I cannot see any way that this is not a scam  "
please explain what you mean by this not just posting to get your count up for the very same thing you are claiming as a scam.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GAWMiners/

ironic no?

any real questions please ask.

[onewiseguy]

http://bitcoinpudle.com Alexa rating 78,188  estimated value $32,465
at the moment bitcoinpuddle is being redirected to alienfaucet, working on redesigning at the moment and implanting many new features. 

According to https://www.valuate.com/ this is worth $0, https://www.freevaluator.com/ it is worth $257 and http://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/www.bitcoinpudle.com it is worth $150. Please explain how to came to the $32k figure. I highly doubt that any reputable valuation site would value it as much.

http://litecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 308,486  estimated value $ 6,502

According to https://www.freevaluator.com/ this is worth $10.81, http://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/www.litecoinpuddle.com it is worth $6,502 (I do not find this to be a reputable site however it is 2nd on google search results for domain name value calculator) although it was registered only a month ago so this is not true, and https://www.valuate.com/ says it is worth $0.00. Were you using site price.org to value this? Can you provide a more reputable source to value this domain.

http://dogecoinpuddle.com Alexa rating 132,626 estimated value $ 17,306

This has similar low and erroneous valuations. Please provide reputable source for this price.
Additionally please provide stats to show how much each of these sites bring in for revenue every month. I highly doubt that they would bring in enough ad revenue to support these valuations.

--snip--
for bitcoinpuddle.com last month it made $1,300 in adsense. and  ad banners around 1 btc.  amount of btc that went to claims was 2.1 btc
this month its at $1,000 in adsense this is due in part most of this month its been running dry on funds. 

Then why do you need such a large loan? You should be able to buy bitcoin with this ad money.

would like for all three of them to run at full capacity for a whole month I would like for them to hit $5,000 -$6,000 in pure profit in the coming month.

Loan request $5,000 in btc so around 25btc paid in four payments.  if any one is interested please post here.

If you want a $5,000 loan then you would be receiving ~20 BTC which is worth $5k.

What amount of interest are you willing to offer?
[/quote]

Here is a nice example for your learning
http://www.estibot.com type in bitcoinaliens.com appraisals is $0 Alexa rating is under 15,000 world wide.  is that reputable enough for you?
https://www.valuate.com/  bitcoin.com value at around $1,000 is that reputable enough for you?


seriously man.

[ScryptAsic]

I cannot see any way that this is not a scam 

"I cannot see any way that this is not a scam  "
please explain what you mean by this not just posting to get your count up for the very same thing you are claiming as a scam.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GAWMiners/

ironic no?

any real questions please ask.

Well your domains have only been registered for ~a month but you are now claiming they are worth tens of thousands of dollars. The reason domains have value is because they have traffic and name recognition. I think it is fair to say the name recognition is not there so the value must be from your traffic. However traffic to faucets is very low quality and you could have potentially purchased traffic to make it look like you are receiving more then you really are.

[onewiseguy]

I cannot see any way that this is not a scam 

"I cannot see any way that this is not a scam  "
please explain what you mean by this not just posting to get your count up for the very same thing you are claiming as a scam.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GAWMiners/

ironic no?

any real questions please ask.

Well your domains have only been registered for ~a month but you are now claiming they are worth tens of thousands of dollars. The reason domains have value is because they have traffic and name recognition. I think it is fair to say the name recognition is not there so the value must be from your traffic. However traffic to faucets is very low quality and you could have potentially purchased traffic to make it look like you are receiving more then you really are.

I am not claiming my domains are worth tens of thousands of dollars, what I am saying is that the websites are worth tens of thousands of dollars due to traffic and name recognition. thousands of people know the names, just because you havent heard of them is besides the point you dont decide whats worthy or not its the masses that come to the site.  "Traffic to faucets is very low quality" how so?  and as stated before they are returning customers and honestly you can say what you want. again just because you dont "think" something has of any value or real traffic. again it doesn't really matter.  numbers dont lie.
This is Just for http://bitcoinpuddle.com
does having fake traffic also produce fake clicks?

again if any one is interested and have real question not just some silly assumptions please post here.

[onewiseguy]

I am still looking for a loan, any one have any ideas?

[Quickseller]

I still have doubts about the legitimacy of the value and revenue of your domains.

If you can provide a more stable altcoin for collateral (then your likely worthless domains) then I would be willing to do this. (assuming you can offer an acceptable interest rate)

[onewiseguy]

I still have doubts about the legitimacy of the value and revenue of your domains.

If you can provide a more stable altcoin for collateral (then your likely worthless domains) then I would be willing to do this. (assuming you can offer an acceptable interest rate)

would you like access to my adsense account?
would you like access to my faucetbox account?


did you have a look at the sites I provided you about value of the again "websites" not just domains. I am not using just the domains as collateral.  I am using the sites them selfs.

I do not have any alt coins.


again this is a serious Loan request with serious business movements.

I am willing to provide you access or at least team viewer and show you the accounts. Live.


I would like this loan to be paid off in 2 months.

paid in four payments  I am not looking for fiat value I am requesting 25 bitcoins.  I will be using pure bitcoins to continue service of said sites. and will be paid in bitcoin again in four payments.

if they are in four payments the payments would be  6.875 btc with the 10% included.

total repayment would be 27.5 BTC

again traffic dose not lie neither do the clicks.

if any one is serious and interested let me know.

[Quickseller]

I still have doubts about the legitimacy of the value and revenue of your domains.

If you can provide a more stable altcoin for collateral (then your likely worthless domains) then I would be willing to do this. (assuming you can offer an acceptable interest rate)

would you like access to my adsense account?
would you like access to my faucetbox account?

No.

did you have a look at the sites I provided you about value of the again "websites" not just domains. I am not using just the domains as collateral.  I am using the sites them selfs.

Your websites are ~a month old. They have not reached that level of value in only one month.

I do not have any alt coins.

I will have to pass then

again this is a serious Loan request with serious business movements.

If you say so.

I am willing to provide you access or at least team viewer and show you the accounts. Live.

I am not sure how the collateral is secure if either the lender or an escrow is not 100% in control of the websites/domains.

I would like this loan to be paid off in 2 months.

I think a potential lender would like this more then you, but this doesn't mean it will happen.

-snip-
again traffic dose not lie neither do the clicks.

Sure they can. You can buy both traffic and clicks for next to nothing. The quality of both is almost always very low quality. If your adsense (or any other advertiser) finds out you are buying traffic/clicks they will likely withhold payment and will try to recover any payment given to you from purchased traffic (in court if necessary)

[onewiseguy]

I still have doubts about the legitimacy of the value and revenue of your domains.

If you can provide a more stable altcoin for collateral (then your likely worthless domains) then I would be willing to do this. (assuming you can offer an acceptable interest rate)

would you like access to my adsense account?
would you like access to my faucetbox account?

No.

did you have a look at the sites I provided you about value of the again "websites" not just domains. I am not using just the domains as collateral.  I am using the sites them selfs.

Your websites are ~a month old. They have not reached that level of value in only one month.

I do not have any alt coins.

I will have to pass then

again this is a serious Loan request with serious business movements.

If you say so.

I am willing to provide you access or at least team viewer and show you the accounts. Live.

I am not sure how the collateral is secure if either the lender or an escrow is not 100% in control of the websites/domains.

I would like this loan to be paid off in 2 months.

I think a potential lender would like this more then you, but this doesn't mean it will happen.

-snip-
again traffic dose not lie neither do the clicks.

Sure they can. You can buy both traffic and clicks for next to nothing. The quality of both is almost always very low quality. If your adsense (or any other advertiser) finds out you are buying traffic/clicks they will likely withhold payment and will try to recover any payment given to you from purchased traffic (in court if necessary)

Alright man  I see alot of you guys on the forums asking about alt coins.


if a person is asking for a real loan with real potential lenders. why do you ask for alts as collateral if I had any alt coins that equaled to the amount I am requesting I would sell those alts and have my loan simple as that, I would not be wasting my time on here with you about what is worth what or what is legitimate or what. 
"Your websites are ~a month old. They have not reached that level of value in only one month. " really man what do you know is valued at what?

I pointed out 4 websites that calculate value of "websites" all four of them are miscalculating?
I do have an adsense account I've had an adsense account for about 5 years now.


If I would of bought traffic or ever clicks which I think that is awesome if you can buy clicks.  I would not have my adsense account right? but I do.


please stop assuming what you dont know.

I am not here trying to argue with you or prove to you what I am telling you because all you do is assume and think you know more than numbers.