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January 25, 2015, 02:48:25 PM
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From Ross Ulbrichts journal (late 2011):

"Around this time, Variety Jones showed up. This was the biggest and strongest willed character I had met through the site thus far. He quickly proved to me that he had value by pointing out a major security hole in the site I was unaware of. It was an attack on bitcoind.

We quickly began discussing every aspect of the site as well as future ideas. He convinced me of a server configuration paradigm that gave me the confidence to be the sole server administrator and not work with someone else at all. He has advised me on many technical aspect of what we are doing, helped me speed up the site and squeeze more out of my current servers. He also has helped me better interact with the community around Silk Road, delivering proclamations, handling troublesome characters, running a sale, changing my name, devising rules, and on and on. He also helped me get my head straight regarding legal protection, cover stories, devising a will, finding a successor, and so on. He’s been a real mentor."

End of Variety Jones (from Ross Ulbrichts chat logs):

(2012-06-01 17:53) vj:
 Also, Variety Jones is dead, poor fella. No more seed  biz for him.
(2012-06-01 17:53) myself:
 Sad
(2012-06-01 17:53) myself:
 you goin by cimon now?
(2012-06-01 17:53) cimon:
 I was keeping that going as a way to get btc legally in the UK, but I'm leaving the UK, and the legality elsewhere means it's best I shut it down.
(2012-06-01 17:54) cimon:
 I have no idea what i'm going by now, dammit!
(2012-06-01 17:54) myself:
 well I just changed you from vj to cimon on torchat
(2012-06-01 17:54) myself:
 so yer cimon
(2012-06-01 17:54) cimon:
 there ya go.
(2012-06-01 17:54) cimon:
and that's how changes are made.
(2012-06-01 17:54) cimon:
 cimon it is.


Who is "Variety Jones"?

- The Jester
- Dread Pirate Roberts (or the "Real DPR" - SR2+reloaded admin)
- an agent of the FBI/DEA
- Satoshi Nakamoto (thx neurotypical)
- Russ Ulbricht (He could have invented the "Variety Jones" character to use this as a proof of his innocence on a possible future trial) He didn't do that on his trial, so this option is most likely dead.
- Rene Pinnell
- Marc Karpeles
- Plural of Mongoose / Thomas Clark
- Shaun W. Bridges (DEA Agent arrested together with another agent for various crimes around Silk Road: http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/30/criminal_complaint_force.pdf )
- The Devil

Facts:

- He was the inventor of the "Dread Pirate Roberts" nick ("Start the legend")
- Russ U. called him "mentor" in his private journal
- He knows alot about coding and computer security
- He was a high-volume marijuana seed dealer on SilkRoad
- He enjoyed Robert Heinlein and Arthur C. Clarke, and expressed his deep admiration for the applied cryptographer Phil Zimmermann

Links:

Silk Road Boss' First Murder-For-Hire Was His Mentor's Idea:
http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-boss-first-murder-attempt-mentors-idea/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/there-are-two-illustrious-characters-still-missing-in-the-silk-road-drama

http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824.227.1.pdf
(contains alot of previously unreleased chats incl. with Cimon (VJ)

http://motherboard.vice.com/tag/Silk+Road+trial

http://www.dailydot.com/crime/dpr-silk-road-variety-jones/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2015/01/21/silk-road-2-0-administrator-doctorclu-arrested-on-drug-charges/
(there was an "unamed source" who gave the ips of both "Defcon" Bleake Benthall and DoctorClu - Variety Jones again?)

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/ross-ulbricht-didnt-create-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts-guy/

https://de.scribd.com/collections/13080591/Silk-Road-trial-exhibits

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/03/latest-from-antilop-cc-on-ross-ulbrichts-mentor-variety-jones/

http://antilop.cc/sr/index.html#jones

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January 25, 2015, 04:58:02 PM
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Why Satoshi Nakamoto is not an option? Satoshi Nakamoto is always an option.

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January 25, 2015, 05:10:32 PM
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Why Satoshi Nakamoto is not an option? Satoshi Nakamoto is always an option.

I think it's Bruce Willis tho.

More like Bruce Wayne perhaps  Grin

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January 25, 2015, 06:49:39 PM
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seriously ? are you talking about me ? ...

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January 25, 2015, 07:03:01 PM
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seriously ? are you talking about me ? ...

If you call yourself Variety Jones once in a while, yes. Else, no.

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January 26, 2015, 01:31:59 AM
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someone smarter than Ross, obviously :-)

or a government informant, who knows ...

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January 26, 2015, 02:16:25 AM
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Lmao, gotta give it to the man, "Variety Jones" sounds so smooth, cool nickname, would be a good character in a tarantino movie.

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January 26, 2015, 03:17:13 AM
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Lmao, gotta give it to the man, "Variety Jones" sounds so smooth, cool nickname, would be a good character in a tarantino movie.

Guy must be good at a variety of things. I mean even coming up with names hes quite clever: "Dread Pirate Roberts" - "Variety Jones"
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January 26, 2015, 06:53:06 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto shouldn't be included on that list to be honest , he would never be involved in Silk road , He is too smart to get catched or simply to involve him self on such illegal activies .

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Satoshi Nakamoto shouldn't be included on that list to be honest , he would never be involved in Silk road , He is too smart to get catched or simply to involve him self on such illegal activies .

Well, VJ didn't get catched by now as it seems and we don't know much about SN, but that he knows a lot about computers, crypto and security. He is not my favourite candidate, but he still fits on the list.

My first theory is, that VJ heard about Silkroad and planned to overtake the site. He could get in contact with Russ through the sites security holes and his ideas about making SR bigger and better organized. He practically controlled Russ U. and stole a big amount of Bitcoins (SR Hacks) that was later used to buy the SR site from Russ. He also took over his own invented DPR moniker (which he even used on the SR2 site). Later when one guy from the SR staff was arrested, he planned to re contact Russ and - with an excuse - trick him back to admin SR for him for a while and to let him be the fall guy.

Edit: Every proof found (this dumb journal etc) on Russ Ulbrichts pc could be created, edited and placed on his computer by VJ using 0-days.

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Googling for "Variety Jones" brought up some very interesting connections.

I found this article
http://allthingsvice.com/2013/10/19/this-tinfoil-hat-fits-me-well/
talking about Silk Road 3 weeks after the arrest of Russ Ulbricht. I first tried to find out where the "Variety Jones" part was found on the site, but I found nothing, yet. When reading through the article I found another name for the above list:

Rene Pinnell http://renepinnell.com/homepage.html
Friend of Russ Ulbricht.

The author of this article is (http://allthingsvice.com/about/)

"Eileen (Eiley) Ormsby, a Melbourne-based writer and journalist whose work has appeared in The Age and Kill Your Darlings among others.  I also write the occasional live music review for Inpress magazine just for the free gigs."

As I was reading further, I thought to myself "Wow, theJester found out the connection beetween DPR and the russulbricht@gmail address!" Then I realized, that I am NOT on the site of the probably most famous hacker "The Jester" http://www.jesterscourt.cc/ , but on http://allthingsvice.com !!!

The complete design of the site is looking just like the site of the Jester (https://wordpress.com/themes/greyzed/) . The writing style reads like articles from the Jester. Pure coincidence??? I mean, I had Jester on the list for beeing Variety Jones anyway and I was googling for "Variety Jones"! This makes "TheJester" No1 on my list for beeing "Variety Jones" atm.

Btw. The Jester officially "retired" some weeks ago.

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January 27, 2015, 12:21:28 PM
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Lmao, gotta give it to the man, "Variety Jones" sounds so smooth, cool nickname, would be a good character in a tarantino movie.

Guy must be good at a variety of things. I mean even coming up with names hes quite clever: "Dread Pirate Roberts" - "Variety Jones"

Her must have had lots of time to think about those lol.
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http://www.wired.com/2015/02/ross-ulbricht-didnt-create-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts-guy/

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February 10, 2015, 05:09:34 PM
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Lmao, gotta give it to the man, "Variety Jones" sounds so smooth, cool nickname, would be a good character in a tarantino movie.

Guy must be good at a variety of things. I mean even coming up with names hes quite clever: "Dread Pirate Roberts" - "Variety Jones"

Her must have had lots of time to think about those lol.
You gotta think about a cool nick name, in case you get caught you'll be world famous through it so it gotta be cool at least.

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We'll have people being successors of DPR forever, lets just hope they at least learn from DPR mistakes?

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- The Jester >> No.

- Dread Pirate Roberts (or the "Real DPR" - SR2+reloaded admin) >> No, too stupid, used his real email.

- an FBI agent >> Doubtful, as VJ gave DPR some good tips.

- Satoshi Nakamoto (thx neurotypical) >> Possible, but why get involved after getting out of the game?

- Russ Ulbricht (He could have invented the "Variety Jones" character to use this as a proof of his innocence on a possible future trial) >> He wasn't smart enough for that. He didn't have an operational security mindset.

- Rene Pinnell >> Don't know who this chap is.

- Marc Karpeles >> Nah, he made enough money stealing Gox funds!

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